Title Update, Specialization issue and Return to Ostagar Update
#3326
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:23
#3327
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:24
swordofthemaker wrote...
Serion amakiir wrote...
omg when r they gonna release RTO pc version?!?!?! every singel day i am checking for the download (sins i bought and paid for the points back at the 5 of jan, when they SAID it would be comming out) cause i am starting to get alittle freakt hearing that the xbox version etc all rdy have gotten theres.....grrrrr....bio releas it all rdy
I'm so confused (as normal) has xbox got the new add or not......?
GIVE IT UP!!! BW/EA is not gonna give us anything thats not gonna make money for EA. The biggest blunder in gaming histroy is BW being bought by EA. We....the folks who make them their profits are screwed. The best or only thing we as an collective of people to do is NOT buy any EA products. Even if it is a game that you've been waiting on; tell them that this is NOT exceptable, that they are not going to get your money. And that when a game comes out you are going to wait to see what kind of support they give. The support we have with DAO is NIL. And I'm worried about ME2; if the same thing is gonna happen. We as a communty of gamers need to take a stand. Does anyone agree?
#3328
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:26
#3329
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:39
Ryngard wrote...
I enjoyed RtO. I do agree that it should have been 3 or 4 times as many enemies rushing at you, even if they were grunts. Just numerous wave after wave. Make it feel more epic. I did like the concept though. I even liked the cute little Genlock cutscenes.
I am dissapointed that specializations are broken AND there has been not a single word in three days.
Oh Key-Reighst, I absolutely detest "defend against wave after wave of enemies" scenerios. RtO is certainly is more than this, is it not? Otherwise I'll definitely pass on this DLC.
Modifié par shawn-m, 17 janvier 2010 - 10:47 .
#3330
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:41
Guest_Feraele_*
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
Feraele wrote...
I tend to be a forgiving person in real life..thats how I am, if that pees people off..its not meant to.
I prefer to set people to the torch that make mistakes and then fail to live up to my lofty unwavering standards no matter what the circumstances are because I just do no give a **** about why or what is going on but that I did not get felated by the customer service department.
Forgive and forget because the world is not perfect and neither are the animals on it. Yes even paid professionals can screw the proverbial pooch ever once and a while. At this point I doubt anything including full disclosure would change anyones mind about the whole situation.
For me the true measure will be what they learn from this fiasco and how things are handled in the future.
I'll tell you right now, if you think the mild outcry that this thread has brought will be anything in comparison to what will happen if the same issues occur with ME2 DLC or worse SW:Kotor then you'll have your work cut out for you.
Its true no one is perfect and people make mistakes, but there comes a point when mistakes are repetedly made and there's a level of lack of support that you really can't defend anymore. And really we're kinda beyond that as it is.
LOL!! Believe me..I KNOW what could happen..been there done that too many times in the past, too many game forums...seen them explode ..thats why its better to remain calm, keep in perspective and not go over the top.
Hopefully we are better than that..and hopefully when it all comes down the pipe there's a good explanation that people can accept and MOVE ON.
I really don't think I want to witness sort of thing every time there's a new release, hopefully..any mistakes made this time around, ...well maybe next time they'll have the bases covered and we won't have to worry ourselves about it.
Meantime..remain calm...someone is bound to tell us something eventually.
#3331
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:44
TafkanX wrote...
... and as such it is unclear why RTO is still being held and not just the patch...
Its clear, they just won't tell us. Which is fine.
#3332
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 10:45
Guest_Feraele_*
Bioware is working on a patch to fix the 360 problems.....but there is also a workaround, I'll let one of the console players who know the workaround tell you, I'm a PC owner and haven't been allowed access to the downloadSelej wrote...
SarEnyaDor wrote...
Why does it have to be lies?
There's an item you find that seems like it should be really important, maybe even start a quest, or at least trigger some dialogue but there is nothing. I don't know that there wasn't supposed to be something come from it because I didn't write it so how could I report that it was missing or glitched??
You don't know anything of the sort, I really don't get why people think they are entitled to have things THIS-INSTANT!! and anything short of a 10 page thesis clearly explaining why every action was taken means that there are evil plots afoot.
Mistakes happen, people try to deal with the best they can. Everybody isn't out to get you.
Not so much lies but there's quite a few of us who play on xbox who are now glitched out. All the book specs are gone, so certain specilizations are no longer available to us until this is fixed.
Modifié par Feraele, 17 janvier 2010 - 10:46 .
#3333
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:07
#3334
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:09
Guest_Feraele_*
JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Exactly, there's a work around. So why doesn't RtO come out already? If it was just the patch, and we don't need the patch for RtO, we can fix the specializations ourselves, why are we sitting here without it having dirt kicked in our faces. The whole situation is ridiculous. At this point, I wonder whether the "good folks" at BIOWARE are just sitting back watching all this unfold laughing at us. We've probably become their office entertainment, all the while RtO sits back OBVIOUSLY complete and bug free given that it's out on PC and 360. I smell something, and it smells like bull s**t.
Could have something to do with a contractual agreement..between ..say MS and Bioware...who knows, they aren't saying.
#3335
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:10
#3336
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:11
Guest_Feraele_*
JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Exactly, there's a work around. So why doesn't RtO come out already? If it was just the patch, and we don't need the patch for RtO, we can fix the specializations ourselves, why are we sitting here without it having dirt kicked in our faces. The whole situation is ridiculous. At this point, I wonder whether the "good folks" at BIOWARE are just sitting back watching all this unfold laughing at us. We've probably become their office entertainment, all the while RtO sits back OBVIOUSLY complete and bug free given that it's out on PC and 360. I smell something, and it smells like bull s**t.
It's NOT out on PC...not officially ..and if there's copies floating around I suspect they aren't...official either.
#3337
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:11
JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Exactly, there's a work around. So why doesn't RtO come out already? If it was just the patch, and we don't need the patch for RtO, we can fix the specializations ourselves, why are we sitting here without it having dirt kicked in our faces. The whole situation is ridiculous. At this point, I wonder whether the "good folks" at BIOWARE are just sitting back watching all this unfold laughing at us. We've probably become their office entertainment, all the while RtO sits back OBVIOUSLY complete and bug free given that it's out on PC and 360. I smell something, and it smells like bull s**t.
#3338
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:19
Dr Bawbag wrote...
MprezdNZ wrote...
Dr Bawbag wrote...
MprezdNZ wrote...
Fizban1Kc wrote...
I have to say tho, I love this game. It was THE reason i purchased the Xbox.
Not trying to start a pc v console war but why would you buy an xbox just for this game when you could have done a couple of updates to your pc to play this?
Do people not get fed up posting this ****e? As long as you can play it on the platform of your choice why does it matter how others choose to play the game?
It was a genuine question to one person regarding why they would specifically buy a console for ONE game. And this particular game. The person who I asked the question of answered. I don't believe they were offended by it. So basically, **** off
Ok Captain Obvious, I'm sorry i pissed in your coffee.
I don't drink coffee. You just made a pathetically childish statement trying to come off all high and mighty.
#3339
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:20
Guest_Feraele_*
JonnyHigh wrote...
word, i smell it tooJKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Exactly, there's a work around. So why doesn't RtO come out already? If it was just the patch, and we don't need the patch for RtO, we can fix the specializations ourselves, why are we sitting here without it having dirt kicked in our faces. The whole situation is ridiculous. At this point, I wonder whether the "good folks" at BIOWARE are just sitting back watching all this unfold laughing at us. We've probably become their office entertainment, all the while RtO sits back OBVIOUSLY complete and bug free given that it's out on PC and 360. I smell something, and it smells like bull s**t.
Read third page of this IGN interview it talks about why they did it..was posted probably 3 or 4 days ago.
http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p3.html
#3340
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:20
#3341
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:24
Feraele wrote...
JonnyHigh wrote...
word, i smell it tooJKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Exactly, there's a work around. So why doesn't RtO come out already? If it was just the patch, and we don't need the patch for RtO, we can fix the specializations ourselves, why are we sitting here without it having dirt kicked in our faces. The whole situation is ridiculous. At this point, I wonder whether the "good folks" at BIOWARE are just sitting back watching all this unfold laughing at us. We've probably become their office entertainment, all the while RtO sits back OBVIOUSLY complete and bug free given that it's out on PC and 360. I smell something, and it smells like bull s**t.
Read third page of this IGN interview it talks about why they did it..was posted probably 3 or 4 days ago.
http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p3.html
Uh yeah, that's your textbook politician's reply pretty much.
#3342
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:27
Guest_Feraele_*
JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Feraele wrote...
JonnyHigh wrote...
word, i smell it tooJKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Exactly, there's a work around. So why doesn't RtO come out already? If it was just the patch, and we don't need the patch for RtO, we can fix the specializations ourselves, why are we sitting here without it having dirt kicked in our faces. The whole situation is ridiculous. At this point, I wonder whether the "good folks" at BIOWARE are just sitting back watching all this unfold laughing at us. We've probably become their office entertainment, all the while RtO sits back OBVIOUSLY complete and bug free given that it's out on PC and 360. I smell something, and it smells like bull s**t.
Read third page of this IGN interview it talks about why they did it..was posted probably 3 or 4 days ago.
http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p3.html
Uh yeah, that's your textbook politician's reply pretty much.
What more do you want...blood, bone? A head or two?
#3343
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:29
Guest_Feraele_*
JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
It is "out" on PC, whether BIOWARE wants to admit that it's "bug free" or not. I've seen it played and seen that all the achievements work on the "leaked" copy. So by all means someone tell me what's "incomplete" about it. BIOWARE sure didn't, because then their whole ploy of trying to deter you PC players from getting it for free wouldn't work. It's obviously a marketing ploy just like why movie companies release a single disk copy of a movie then 2 years later issue out the "2 Disk Special Edition". The whole marketing ploy behind it is that "you don't have all the special features". Sound familiar? It sounds like the same exact feed BIOWARE gave us the other day where they say it's "incomplete", yet don't say what. Want to know why? Because it IS complete.
IT IS NOT OUT OFFICIALLY...otherwise I would be playing it right now...its been withheld due to some issues that the Bioware team discovered. If you are seeing PC copies of this dlc...they aren't legal.
And ..I don't want to discuss THAT (the not legal issue) any more as we have been told not to..or this thread will get locked.
#3344
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:35
#3345
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:37
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
Feraele wrote...
I tend to be a forgiving person in real life..thats how I am, if that pees people off..its not meant to.
I prefer to set people to the torch that make mistakes and then fail to live up to my lofty unwavering standards no matter what the circumstances are because I just do no give a **** about why or what is going on but that I did not get felated by the customer service department.
Forgive and forget because the world is not perfect and neither are the animals on it. Yes even paid professionals can screw the proverbial pooch ever once and a while. At this point I doubt anything including full disclosure would change anyones mind about the whole situation.
For me the true measure will be what they learn from this fiasco and how things are handled in the future.
I'll tell you right now, if you think the mild outcry that this thread has brought will be anything in comparison to what will happen if the same issues occur with ME2 DLC or worse SW:Kotor then you'll have your work cut out for you.
Its true no one is perfect and people make mistakes, but there comes a point when mistakes are repetedly made and there's a level of lack of support that you really can't defend anymore. And really we're kinda beyond that as it is.
psst...it is SW:TOR (no knights of) :innocent:
#3346
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:38
#3347
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:38
Maybe they did it for the same reason I did. Better with a hand held controller then with the key bored and mouse. If I was better at using the controls for computer games I would of bought it for my lap top.MprezdNZ wrote...
Dr Bawbag wrote...
MprezdNZ wrote...
Dr Bawbag wrote...
MprezdNZ wrote...
Fizban1Kc wrote...
I have to say tho, I love this game. It was THE reason i purchased the Xbox.
Not trying to start a pc v console war but why would you buy an xbox just for this game when you could have done a couple of updates to your pc to play this?
Do people not get fed up posting this ****e? As long as you can play it on the platform of your choice why does it matter how others choose to play the game?
It was a genuine question to one person regarding why they would specifically buy a console for ONE game. And this particular game. The person who I asked the question of answered. I don't believe they were offended by it. So basically, **** off
Ok Captain Obvious, I'm sorry i pissed in your coffee.
I don't drink coffee. You just made a pathetically childish statement trying to come off all high and mighty.
#3348
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:38
#3349
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:40
Guest_Feraele_*
JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Whenever someone explains the reasoning for something "unplanned" or "unfortunate" with a textbook politician answer, it means they are either A. Hiding Something, or B. Out right lying. So excuse me if their explanation doesn't quite add up given all the other developments to this ongoing dramatic rollercoaster that is RtO. And same answer to the reason they are "with holding" RtO when last they said, everything got pulled down due to the title update. Which we've seen pretty clear here, that the title update is NOT needed for RtO. So they can by all means continue to spin all the stories they want, but until those stories start coming through NOT looking like swish cheese, I'm not going to believe a damn thing they say!!!!
Welp then don't...no skin off my nose for sure. The "official" explanation..was given out in the url I posted, and we'll have to be satisfied with that..til something else is said by the powers that be.
#3350
Guest_Feraele_*
Posté 17 janvier 2010 - 11:42
Guest_Feraele_*
13 dragons wrote...
i have 1 message for bioware: WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! they throw out 2 lines of text to say basically- its not comin out for a while srry but we arent tellin you anything elsewithout tellin us anything ppl just run around thinking up tons of things to make it worse than it already is! when all ppl want to hear is an update about whats happening with the DLC so they better say somthing soon or it will just get worse!
It already has...it goes thru phases on this thread.....I've read the whole thing




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