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[addiction21]

gabrekthetank wrote...

There seems to be a big stress on 'unforeseen' about this 'bug'- my opinion on the matter is that they should have had someone sit down and test the update for even half an hour before releasing it to the planet. The specilization issue is not easy to miss.

Which makes me wonder how it did make it that far.  Was there a update to Xbox live or the servers them selves that BW/MS did not have enough time to test the title update with before the mistaken release? Or just poor implementation by the code monekys?
It was the type of thing that just slaps you in the face and makes me think there is more to it then just poor testing on anyones side. Maybe the title update was the most up to date one but was tied to a previous version of RtO that did not have all the changes there. Who knows but it strikes me to be more then bad testing by a party.
Sometimes all it takes is a small pebble to start a avalanche.

[Goth Skunk]

NYHoustonman wrote...

That is about the lamest argument used in these kinds of situations, and yet it continues to come up. You're not presenting a new viewpoint here.

It's only "lame" because it's a perspective that differs from his own. I on the other hand find it to be a perfectly valid argument. One full of wisdom and tranquility.

Sten would agree.

[KCFender]

Modifié par KCFender, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:34 .

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

The sad thing is, by the time they get the "fix" out to fix all the damage the title update did, anyone who experienced problems from it, is going to have fixed it themselves. I wonder if that is the intention after all? Where what will happen is they will release a "bug free" title update with RtO and just say "sorry folks there's nothing we can do, you'll have to unlock them again yourself". I think after White Water Summer, I'm going to watch something else from the 80's. Any suggestions? My movie collection spans 1400 titles, so don't be shy to throw something out there assuming I may not have it :-)

[KCFender]

Feraele wrote...

Tuesday is just a guess on my part KC, due to what I was told about how Bioware operates, by another forum goer.    Nothing says they will..I am just hoping they will thats all.

It's my guess too. It's an industry-wide trend to touch bases with the masses only on Tuesdays. I just don't understand it is all, and think it's a rule that should be more readily bent.

[ZealotMina]

Just have some patience children it's just a game! Go get laid or drunk or high or whatever you do to realx and when it's released we will all be pleasantly surprised

[addiction21]

KCFender wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Tuesday is just a guess on my part KC, due to what I was told about how Bioware operates, by another forum goer.    Nothing says they will..I am just hoping they will thats all.

It's my guess too. It's an industry-wide trend to touch bases with the masses only on Tuesdays. I just don't understand it is all, and think it's a rule that should be more readily bent.

Well it does give them a day after the weekend to get everything in order and people to do it. Just a guess really but it makes sense if it is part of the reason. The regular crew is in and had a day to try and cover all the bases while recouping from the weekend.

ZealotMina wrote...

Just have some patience children it's just a game! Go get laid or drunk or high or whatever you do to realx and when it's released we will all be pleasantly surprised

But those are all things that can be done with the monitor in view and my finger on the F5 button

Modifié par addiction21, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:37 .

[Gebut]

JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
I think after White Water Summer, I'm going to watch something else from the 80's. Any suggestions? My movie collection spans 1400 titles, so don't be shy to throw something out there assuming I may not have it :-)

You have probably seen it
Beeing there, with Peter Sellers. late 70:s though.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/

[akeso]

ZealotMina wrote...

Just have some patience children it's just a game! Go get laid or drunk or high or whatever you do to realx and when it's released we will all be pleasantly surprised

I always wonder if posters like this realize how they sound.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Goth Skunk wrote...

And what you have a problem grasping is that the fix is coming. Where you go overboard is your demands to have the fix yesterday.

Do you really have nothing else to do? Does playing DA:O sustain you? Do you require it to live? If yes, then I'll gladly put my foot in my mouth.

Otherwise, wait.

No one's asking for a fix yesterday, just a little communication on the status of said fix for the 360 users and when we can actually download the non "leaked" version thats available this holiday season/already released according to the EA mailer sent out the other day. Thats about it. I don't see why thats so much to ask for to the few people who feel Bioware can do no wrong no matter how many dates they miss.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...

The sad thing is, by the time they get the "fix" out to fix all the damage the title update did, anyone who experienced problems from it, is going to have fixed it themselves. I wonder if that is the intention after all? Where what will happen is they will release a "bug free" title update with RtO and just say "sorry folks there's nothing we can do, you'll have to unlock them again yourself". I think after White Water Summer, I'm going to watch something else from the 80's. Any suggestions? My movie collection spans 1400 titles, so don't be shy to throw something out there assuming I may not have it :-)

Um considering your Forum name ..............how about "The Sound Of Music"? that oughta keep you busy. Wretching.

[bconk55]

Feraele wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

gabrekthetank wrote...

There seems to be a big stress on 'unforeseen' about this 'bug'- my opinion on the matter is that they should have had someone sit down and test the update for even half an hour before releasing it to the planet. The specilization issue is not easy to miss.

Which makes me wonder how it did make it that far.  Was there a update to Xbox live or the servers them selves that BW/MS did not have enough time to test the title update with before the mistaken release? Or just poor implementation by the code monekys?
It was the type of thing that just slaps you in the face and makes me think there is more to it then just poor testing on anyones side. Maybe the title update was the most up to date one but was tied to a previous version of RtO that did not have all the changes there. Who knows but it strikes me to be more then bad testing by a party.
Sometimes all it takes is a small pebble to start a avalanche.

From what I remember being said, ..it was released early..a mistake by another company's employee.  It evidently was still in Q&A being tested when it got released with that wrong date and too early.  Hence the scramble to get the PC users theirs, and the big muck-up after when it was discovered it was a very bad bug.

For what it's worth, the Xbox 360 Title Update was scheduled for, and released on, the 13th. Regardless of the scandalous RtO release, the Title Update carried bugs of its own.

[Kapow123]

My recruiter achievement wont unlock, and neither will alot of other peoples. I hope this is fixed because I want my achievement.

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

Yep, seen it, and yep, it's 79, we can't have that in the mix tonight, it's 80's night though :-p

[Goth Skunk]

KCFender wrote...

It's my guess too. It's an industry-wide trend to touch bases with the masses only on Tuesdays. I just don't understand it is all, and think it's a rule that should be more readily bent.

Let me explain the whole Tuesday thing, using an example that the business world likes to refer to as Impact.

In my line of work, equipment eventually fails. It's a certainty. There are contingencies in place to minimize the effects of a failed piece of equipment. Most times, when equipment fails, the worst the customer sees is a blip. Impact is minimum. Nevertheless, this equipment has to be replaced or repaired, otherwise that blip could get a whole lot bigger. However, when repairing the faulty equipment, Impact must once again be addressed. It has happened in the past where the simple act of repairing faulty equipment has caused further equipment failures in previously working modules. They're freak occurences, but they have happened before. So, equipment repairs have to be conducted at a time when customer Impact is at the lowest point. And in our industry, that is the middle of the night.

Conversely, Impact can also be used by other industries with which to maximize the impact to their customers. Movies, for example, are almost always released on a Friday, because moost of the working world gets the weekend off, and what better way to start a weekend than going and seeinga new release movie on a Friday night?

In the video game industry, providers wish to minimize Impact to their customer base if they have to take their service down or replace it. The best way to do that is to find out what day of the week has the least amount of customer activity, and make that your maintenance day. Tuesday just happens to be a day where holidays rarely fall upon, and almost every working adult or studying student is either working/at school on Tuesday. Monday and Friday are out, because most adults and students have the day off and spend the day entertaining themselves. And though I'm not 100% certain of this, I am willing to bet a dozen doughnuts this is why Blizzard conducts server maintenance on Tuesdays for World of Warcraft.

CoS Jinstar wrote...

No one's asking for a fix yesterday, just a little communication on the status of said fix for the 360 users and when we can actually download the non "leaked" version thats available this holiday season/already released according to the EA mailer sent out the other day. Thats about it. I don't see why thats so much to ask for to the few people who feel Bioware can do no wrong no matter how many dates they miss.

Would you rather Bioware dedicate their efforts fixing the issue? Or would you rather they waste their productive time giving you updates every few hours?

I, for one, would prefer the former.

Modifié par Goth Skunk, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:45 .

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

http://www.dvdtalk.c...ews/bargain.php



Prime example right there. Check the dates. They are all Tuesday's.

[Benzii]

It beggars belief and i know i'm being short sighted about this but isn't this a 18 age rated game, 70% of the posts in this thread including this post are written like they were made by 9 year olds. i know thers no law against playing a game underage but im starting to think there should be lol

[Goth Skunk]

Just because one is 18 or older, does not make them an adult.

[Mechnic]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

NYHoustonman wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

2 Months after the game came out and you are whining due to a slight delay with the 3rd... count it THIRD dlc? Also with an expansion coming out soon.

If you reckon you can churn out more decent DLCs for this game than they have in such a short space of time, there is this neat thing you know that came with the PC version called the toolset, it allows you to make campaigns, new armor, new characters, basically anything you see in the game, including funky cut-scenes... like this... why not go have a go at it.

Oh wait, you expect them to dish out more than 3 DLCs inside 2 months of the game coming out... because your just some lazy smuck who thinks they should obey your every whim. Yeah, keep dreaming... not gonna happen.

That excuse is *never* valid. It's not our job to develop software; it IS theirs, and they've had damned near a month-long delay for 45-60 minutes of content. My response to this line of reasoning is that I'm too busy doing my job to do theirs for them.

The first 2+ DLC's were only DLC's because they had to push the product out the door before they were complete. They had 2 DLC's within (instantly), and *0* in the last 2 months.

WOW 2 months of no DLCs....

*gasps* Oh no the world is going to end because a company hasn't released a DLC in 2 months...

I know lets all whine about that, yeah that is the mature thing to do isn't it?

Seriously some people need to take a step back and think for a second.

Your expecting DLCs to come every week or something? Did they promise such a thing?

No they said plenty of DLC content in 2 year period they never specified how often it would come.

So your point is even more invalid.

I don't mean any offence really to you with what am about to say, you know what, the other week I was a bit annoyed about all this, but then I realised that constantly whining every single day expecting it to be dropped on my lap or be told the exact ins and outs as to why it was delayed was absolutely stupid and unprofessional.

Some of the people that are constantly whining in this topic every day really are pathetic and seriously need to get with the real world. I am done with this topic. Hopefully as others have said when there is an update the Devs will ditch this topic and create a new one. I know how to check for dev posts, but personally I think that when new info comes out this stupid whine infested topic needs sinking to the bottom where it belongs.

You talk about people being pathetic; now just look at your post. That is PATHETIC !!!  Were you promised DLC's to further your gaming experience?? Were you promised a new DLC during the holidays? Were you REpromised a DLC on the 5th of January? Now with all those promises not being made; YOU still trust anything that comes out of BW/EA's  so called mouth pieces or  MOD wannabe's? Stop dissing others who are (reasonably so) pissed at the lack of and arrogance/ uppity snobish attiude of above stated developer and mods. If this is the way they are going to be and this is the way people/fans (like YOU) are gonna act I will not support BW or more closely EA which has ruined (IMHO) more good gaming companies than has nurtured.

[bconk55]

Goth Skunk wrote...

Just because one is 18 or older, does not make them an adult.

Not to mention a great deal of false entitlement occurs after adolescence, not during.

[Abriael_CG]

ZealotMina wrote...

Just have some patience children it's just a game! Go get laid or drunk or high or whatever you do to realx and when it's released we will all be pleasantly surprised

How much i love this trite troll post some feel the need to waste their fingertips on. Yes, we have lives, yes, we get laid. This doesn't make the current situation more acceptable. Now go back in your basement, ktxbye (because it's a demonstrated rule that the ones posting this kind of trollish posts are the ones lacking the aforementioned life and chances to get laid).

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:52 .