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Title Update, Specialization issue and Return to Ostagar Update
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#3827
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:02
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Whist Darkblade wrote...
Abriael_CG wrote...
ZealotMina wrote...
Just have some patience children it's just a game! Go get laid or drunk or high or whatever you do to realx and when it's released we will all be pleasantly surprised
How much i love this trite troll post some feel the need to waste their fingertips on. Yes, we have lives, yes, we get laid. This doesn't make the current situation more acceptable. Now go back in your basement, ktxbye (because it's a demonstrated rule that the ones posting this kind of trollish posts are the ones lacking the aforementioned life and chances to get laid).
well lets be honest, those of us with lives dont spend time complaining about being insulted. And better yet, those of us with lives dont bug out over a missed DLC date. the reason you bought the game was to play the game not the possibliity of RtO.
Oh wait, and btw, you all do know they released the toolset for a reason, so grab a Mountain Dew. Put down your egos, and in my case d-spawn blood stained sword, and tinker with the toolset.
Cause you are only limited to your imagintion, that is the only thing holding you back. Read some forum topics, download some WIKI's and start making your own quests.
I have.
You do realise that the toolset is only for pc users, right?
#3828
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:05
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MprezdNZ wrote...
bconk55 wrote...
Feraele wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
gabrekthetank wrote...
There seems to be a big stress on 'unforeseen' about this 'bug'- my opinion on the matter is that they should have had someone sit down and test the update for even half an hour before releasing it to the planet. The specilization issue is not easy to miss.
Which makes me wonder how it did make it that far. Was there a update to Xbox live or the servers them selves that BW/MS did not have enough time to test the title update with before the mistaken release? Or just poor implementation by the code monekys?
It was the type of thing that just slaps you in the face and makes me think there is more to it then just poor testing on anyones side. Maybe the title update was the most up to date one but was tied to a previous version of RtO that did not have all the changes there. Who knows but it strikes me to be more then bad testing by a party.
Sometimes all it takes is a small pebble to start a avalanche.
From what I remember being said, ..it was released early..a mistake by another company's employee. It evidently was still in Q&A being tested when it got released with that wrong date and too early. Hence the scramble to get the PC users theirs, and the big muck-up after when it was discovered it was a very bad bug.
For what it's worth, the Xbox 360 Title Update was scheduled for, and released on, the 13th. Regardless of the scandalous RtO release, the Title Update carried bugs of its own.
just out of interest, do you have sauce for this? I was under the understanding that the fix and the dlc were sent to MS for testing. MS employee put the wrong date in for release and both were sent out by mistake.
There was a sticky about the Title Update being released on the 13th on the forum, but, for obvious reasons, it has since been removed.
#3829
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:11
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MprezdNZ wrote...
Whist Darkblade wrote...
Abriael_CG wrote...
ZealotMina wrote...
Just have some patience children it's just a game! Go get laid or drunk or high or whatever you do to realx and when it's released we will all be pleasantly surprised
How much i love this trite troll post some feel the need to waste their fingertips on. Yes, we have lives, yes, we get laid. This doesn't make the current situation more acceptable. Now go back in your basement, ktxbye (because it's a demonstrated rule that the ones posting this kind of trollish posts are the ones lacking the aforementioned life and chances to get laid).
well lets be honest, those of us with lives dont spend time complaining about being insulted. And better yet, those of us with lives dont bug out over a missed DLC date. the reason you bought the game was to play the game not the possibliity of RtO.
Oh wait, and btw, you all do know they released the toolset for a reason, so grab a Mountain Dew. Put down your egos, and in my case d-spawn blood stained sword, and tinker with the toolset.
Cause you are only limited to your imagintion, that is the only thing holding you back. Read some forum topics, download some WIKI's and start making your own quests.
I have.
You do realise that the toolset is only for pc users, right?
And there you have it folks......just another reason playing on PC is bad
#3830
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:11
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Goth Skunk wrote...
Elerrina_7 wrote...
So originally the response looked promising bioware seemed to be actively working to fix it and now absolutely nothing. GG it would be appriciated by many people if some employee could take some time to give us info as to what is going on.
Stressing about it won't help. Go outside.
You must live a pretty relaxed life if you see that as stressing
. No i wasnt stressing its merely a request for an update since i would certainly like to know whats going on and when we can expect a fix tis all. And its too cold to go outside! 
#3831
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:14
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MprezdNZ wrote...
bconk55 wrote...
Feraele wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
gabrekthetank wrote...
There seems to be a big stress on 'unforeseen' about this 'bug'- my opinion on the matter is that they should have had someone sit down and test the update for even half an hour before releasing it to the planet. The specilization issue is not easy to miss.
Which makes me wonder how it did make it that far. Was there a update to Xbox live or the servers them selves that BW/MS did not have enough time to test the title update with before the mistaken release? Or just poor implementation by the code monekys?
It was the type of thing that just slaps you in the face and makes me think there is more to it then just poor testing on anyones side. Maybe the title update was the most up to date one but was tied to a previous version of RtO that did not have all the changes there. Who knows but it strikes me to be more then bad testing by a party.
Sometimes all it takes is a small pebble to start a avalanche.
From what I remember being said, ..it was released early..a mistake by another company's employee. It evidently was still in Q&A being tested when it got released with that wrong date and too early. Hence the scramble to get the PC users theirs, and the big muck-up after when it was discovered it was a very bad bug.
For what it's worth, the Xbox 360 Title Update was scheduled for, and released on, the 13th. Regardless of the scandalous RtO release, the Title Update carried bugs of its own.
just out of interest, do you have sauce for this? I was under the understanding that the fix and the dlc were sent to MS for testing. MS employee put the wrong date in for release and both were sent out by mistake.
Sauce coming right up....Sweet and Sour, Horseradish, BBQ?
#3832
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:16
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Are there going to be lots of updates?
#3834
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:19
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Nah, a white Whine sauce w/caramelized shallots please.
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Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:22
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Polton wrote...
Are there going to be lots of updates?
Well they have 2 years worth of stuff planned out..I read that somewhere.
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Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:25
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To those 360 players affected by the Title Update issue this week, our sincere apologies.
The situation is something we are taking very seriously and the team is continuing to work around the clock to rectify.
DA:O is an incredibly large, very deep and complex game, making it virtually impossible to test every system and permutation possible for each update/DLC.
When testing any large endeavor like that, we depend on selectively targeting systems related to the changes being made, prioritized by order of perceived risk.
Unfortunately we did not foresee the changes being made to impact the systems it did, which is how something seemingly so visible still managed to avoid the dev team, and multiple test cycles of seasoned QA all through our internal teams, and EA & MS cert teams, and ultimately ended up out to the public.
To help us avoid similar problems in the future, we're updating all our test plans across all platforms to take additional edge cases into account, as well as committing to more detailed test passes that will also prevent something like this happening again.
Short term, this means another delay across all platforms for the immediate console patches and Return to Ostagar DLC releases as this is a substantial increase in test coverage, and that time is needed to do so and ensure there are no other knock on issues with either the main game, the updates or the DLC.
In the meantime, there is good news - a fix is already in test for the 360 issue and looking very good, we hope to have a new update out as soon as possible and will update you as best as we can. If successful through the updated test plans, it will still deliver the expected fixes as well as restore the game saves for anyone affected by this week's title update. For now, we do not have a timeframe for when the fix will pass approval and certification, but we will keep you updated.
In addition, while this creates a delay with the immediate content already expected to have released, the additional testing actually benefits some of the upcoming DLC and expansion pack, and as such is not expected to impact dates of the future content.
Thank you again for your patience.Victor Wachter, Bioware
Thread all by itself in forum..wahoo..they speak at last.
The situation is something we are taking very seriously and the team is continuing to work around the clock to rectify.
DA:O is an incredibly large, very deep and complex game, making it virtually impossible to test every system and permutation possible for each update/DLC.
When testing any large endeavor like that, we depend on selectively targeting systems related to the changes being made, prioritized by order of perceived risk.
Unfortunately we did not foresee the changes being made to impact the systems it did, which is how something seemingly so visible still managed to avoid the dev team, and multiple test cycles of seasoned QA all through our internal teams, and EA & MS cert teams, and ultimately ended up out to the public.
To help us avoid similar problems in the future, we're updating all our test plans across all platforms to take additional edge cases into account, as well as committing to more detailed test passes that will also prevent something like this happening again.
Short term, this means another delay across all platforms for the immediate console patches and Return to Ostagar DLC releases as this is a substantial increase in test coverage, and that time is needed to do so and ensure there are no other knock on issues with either the main game, the updates or the DLC.
In the meantime, there is good news - a fix is already in test for the 360 issue and looking very good, we hope to have a new update out as soon as possible and will update you as best as we can. If successful through the updated test plans, it will still deliver the expected fixes as well as restore the game saves for anyone affected by this week's title update. For now, we do not have a timeframe for when the fix will pass approval and certification, but we will keep you updated.
In addition, while this creates a delay with the immediate content already expected to have released, the additional testing actually benefits some of the upcoming DLC and expansion pack, and as such is not expected to impact dates of the future content.
Thank you again for your patience.Victor Wachter, Bioware
Thread all by itself in forum..wahoo..they speak at last.
#3837
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:34
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Feraele wrote...
To those 360 players affected by the Title Update issue this week, our sincere apologies.
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Thread all by itself in forum..wahoo..they speak at last.
Unfortunately we know that many requests for information were actually just thinly masked demands for either a date to mark on the calendar or an immediate release. While this will certainly appease those who were genuine in their intentions, you know as well as I do that a whole new round of complaints is imminent.
#3838
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:37
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why dont they just release the goddamn DLC for the PC.
#3839
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:38
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Silensfurtim wrote...
why dont they just release the goddamn DLC for the PC.
$
#3841
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:40
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I'm actually hoping for BioWare not to release the DLC this month. I have 10 bucks riding on it being released in February. Just 2 more weeks guys and my buddy is going to be buying me RtO with some pocket cash to go with it. 
#3842
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:41
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Silensfurtim wrote...
why dont they just release the goddamn DLC for the PC.
once again everyone gets to wait.......thanks to MICROSHAFT(360)
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Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:43
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JBurke wrote...
I'm actually hoping for BioWare not to release the DLC this month. I have 10 bucks riding on it being released in February. Just 2 more weeks guys and my buddy is going to be buying me RtO with some pocket cash to go with it.
No noooooo don't jinx us...LOL
#3844
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:45
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I just want to add my voice to those in need of a patch due to locked specializations I played all day and just quit 25 minutes ago because Zev hit level 14 and can't become a duuelist even though I reunlocked that today. As it is I had unlocked all specializations except spirit healer. Will the patch restore previously unlocked specializations?
#3845
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:51
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And of course we are in for further disappointment, since they need to do more testing "across all platforms", which basically translates as "The PC version is ready, but to appease mucrosoft we need to hold it back until the 360 version is ready too".
Please Bioware, disappoint us further.
Please Bioware, disappoint us further.
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Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:52
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frostajulie wrote...
I just want to add my voice to those in need of a patch due to locked specializations I played all day and just quit 25 minutes ago because Zev hit level 14 and can't become a duuelist even though I reunlocked that today. As it is I had unlocked all specializations except spirit healer. Will the patch restore previously unlocked specializations?
They said it will restore your saves, so I presume thats a yes?
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Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:53
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Abriael_CG wrote...
And of course we are in for further disappointment, since they need to do more testing "across all platforms", which basically translates as "The PC version is ready, but to appease mucrosoft we need to hold it back until the 360 version is ready too".
Please Bioware, disappoint us further.
That delay has to do with testing achievements and titles that PC users also get...if you check what he said.
#3848
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:58
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Feraele wrote...
That delay has to do with testing achievements and titles that PC users also get...if you check what he said.
Yes, and people that didn't really wait and just downloaded it where it shouldn't be named got the achievement fine. What does that tell you? mmmh lemme think?
#3849
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 12:59
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FYI, I found this in the xbox support forum and it fixed the problem for me:
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Good news! If you clear the cache on the 360, any specializations you unlock will remain unlocked. This is because Microsoft has removed the title update from LIVE. The catch is you have to unlock them again.
To clear your Xbox 360 cache.
- On the Dashboard, go to System Settings
- Select Memory
- Highlight your storage device and press Y for Device Options
- Select Clear Cache (if you don't have that option, press X, X, LB, RB, X, X
- Say Yes when asked if you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox
This clears all title updates from your system. It will not delete your saves or DLC.
If you have old saves, load them back up and unlock those hard-to-get specializations, like Champion or Blood Mage or Arcane Warrior. If you don't have any old saves, well, at least anything new you unlock will stay that way.
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Good news! If you clear the cache on the 360, any specializations you unlock will remain unlocked. This is because Microsoft has removed the title update from LIVE. The catch is you have to unlock them again.
To clear your Xbox 360 cache.
- On the Dashboard, go to System Settings
- Select Memory
- Highlight your storage device and press Y for Device Options
- Select Clear Cache (if you don't have that option, press X, X, LB, RB, X, X
- Say Yes when asked if you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox
This clears all title updates from your system. It will not delete your saves or DLC.
If you have old saves, load them back up and unlock those hard-to-get specializations, like Champion or Blood Mage or Arcane Warrior. If you don't have any old saves, well, at least anything new you unlock will stay that way.
</quote>
#3850
Posté 19 janvier 2010 - 01:09
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The prior post about cache clearing did not work for me. But re-dling my Gamertag info after clearing the cache did (and I did not have to unlock a spec)
Modifié par Syrehn, 19 janvier 2010 - 01:10 .
