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[wicked_being]

Dargar21 wrote...

Kurokenshi wrote...

Dargar21 wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Only the 360 version had a problem right? Why the heck won't they release the PC/PS3 version I really hope this doesn't go until Feb.

I suppose they believe that it will P.O. the 360 gamers if that happened. Which makes sense. They probably want everyone to suffer equally so no one feels left out.

So what about the 360 players currently playing the dodgy version? Don't they think that may be P.O. the ones waiting for a release?

Absolutley.

So they risk P.O'ing off everyone and potentially lose a bigger number of customers/consumers/fans than the number of people playing on the 360? I don't/can't see the logic in that

[Loerwyn]

Basically, wicked_being, it works as thus:



The 360 is the single biggest slice of the gaming market, and I'm going to assume the 360 version sold better, as it often does. Therefore it's the largest portion of their user base.



If BioWare were to release RtO on the PC and PS3 then they'd be sidelining the biggest percentage of users. Combine it with the fact RtO was released early and (combined with an update) has temporarily rendered the game unplayable, I don't think they're willing to take many more risks with RtO.



They've come under a lot of flak from their customers over this, and I assure you that the lack of DLC quickly became a minor problem.

[zengetsu666]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Basically, wicked_being, it works as thus:

The 360 is the single biggest slice of the gaming market, and I'm going to assume the 360 version sold better, as it often does. Therefore it's the largest portion of their user base.

If BioWare were to release RtO on the PC and PS3 then they'd be sidelining the biggest percentage of users. Combine it with the fact RtO was released early and (combined with an update) has temporarily rendered the game unplayable, I don't think they're willing to take many more risks with RtO.

They've come under a lot of flak from their customers over this, and I assure you that the lack of DLC quickly became a minor problem.

pretty bold 2 only assume that the xbox 360 the biggest single seller were did you actually get the facts to make such a dodgy claim

[Varjon Napnew]

OMG people ... get over it. RtO will come out when it comes out.



If your tired of waiting then just go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure until RtO is released, and stop your yapping!

[Stakis]

165 pages, the force is strong in this one .

[Lexxbomb]

Oh god I remember the outrage over the Pinnacle Station DLC for ME1, didn't that take over a year for release after the initial release date given and then most people also hated the content... I sure hope RTO isn't going to be the same.

[topet]

Just a few days till ME2 hits the stores.

so... to HELL with RtO srsly >

[Kazren]

Well, awaiting DA-RtO, I went out and bought ME and then discovered I couldn't get it to run, so I contacted support. They told me to uninstall Windows 7 and install Windows XP. What sort of support is that?

[glowgoboy]

I didn't have any issues running Mass Effect (I) under Windows 7...

[jedimaster52501]

topet wrote...

Just a few days till ME2 hits the stores.
so... to HELL with RtO srsly >

i agree, ME2 will consume all my time, it getting day one DLC and yet we wait on RtO, what a load of BS.

[Loerwyn]

zengetsu666 wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Basically, wicked_being, it works as thus:

The 360 is the single biggest slice of the gaming market, and I'm going to assume the 360 version sold better, as it often does. Therefore it's the largest portion of their user base.

If BioWare were to release RtO on the PC and PS3 then they'd be sidelining the biggest percentage of users. Combine it with the fact RtO was released early and (combined with an update) has temporarily rendered the game unplayable, I don't think they're willing to take many more risks with RtO.

They've come under a lot of flak from their customers over this, and I assure you that the lack of DLC quickly became a minor problem.

pretty bold 2 only assume that the xbox 360 the biggest single seller were did you actually get the facts to make such a dodgy claim

Experience? Common sense?

The 360's been out longer than the PS3 for a start. Modern Warfare 2 on the 360 was the best selling game of 2009 as well, and Halo: ODST was ~9th on that list.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if Dragon Age sold more on the PC, but I have a strong feeling it's sold more copies on the 360.

[Garlandan]

Just popped in to see if there was any new news. I ve been following this thread for a few days, 1st time ive ever felt the need to comment. It seems to me some people have way too much time on their hands to be having the same argument for how many days now?

[Garlandan]

oh, and my pc is dead. had to type all that on my ps3's browser with that stupid on screen keyboard. how lame is that? lol

[Roman727]

So whats lamer, the screen keyboard or the person using the screen keyboard to reply to a post on a forum that the user blasts for people having no life and commenting on yet that same user responded with a meaning less post and put in extra effort on a device that is hard to use in the first place...... Makes you think



You sir are a bafoon......with all due respect.

[Abriael_CG]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...
Experience? Common sense?

The 360's been out longer than the PS3 for a start. Modern Warfare 2 on the 360 was the best selling game of 2009 as well, and Halo: ODST was ~9th on that list.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if Dragon Age sold more on the PC, but I have a strong feeling it's sold more copies on the 360.

A big chunk of the 360's installed base is made by faulty systems that have been replaced, so I wouldn't be so quick saying that 360 has a much bigger installed base than the PS3, and the marging is shrinking by the day. At the moment the PS3 is "the console to have" for hardcore gamers, and the trend is in it's favor.
Not all games sell more on the 360. Actually lately it's quite an equal comparison if not fav orable for the PS3. Some kind of games sell more on the 360, some on the PS3. Modern Warfare has a very strong online component and is a shooter, thing that caters to the 360 crowd more. Arkham Asylum sold more on PS3, just to make an example. To name some others, Tekken, Street Fighter IV, basicallty all sport games (like Madden or PES). You can bet your pants that the PS3 sales of Final Fantasy XIII will obliterate the 360 ones despite it being multiplatform. Also, you can easily expect that Gran Turismo 5 (if it's not a legend ) will outsell Forza 3 by at the very least 2 to 1.

Given that DA:O on PC sold more than Total War, and it's one of the games that the PC gaming community was awaiting most eagerly, while on the 360 it's rather lackluster due to the bad controls, I can pretty much assure you than the PC version outsold the 360 one by quite a good chunk. Not only that, but the 360 version has pretty much collapsed in sales after release, as most consoles titles do. Due to the moddability of the game and word of mouth, the PC version will probably go on selling quite well for months to come. So the gap between the PC and the 360 version is bound to increase.

[Garlandan]

nice, and no offense taken. I wasnt looking to rile people or blast any one. and yes im also wasting time replying to this. i wasnt singling anyone out just jumping in.

[Abriael_CG]

topet wrote...

Just a few days till ME2 hits the stores.

umh, and?

Mass Effect 2 will for sure be a great game. Better than DA:O? Debatable. Mass Effect 1 was not.
Hopefully Mass Effect 2's characters are better written than in the first game, otherwise we're in for some disappointment.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 20 janvier 2010 - 03:27 .

[awsome_robot]

jedimaster52501 wrote...

360 owners are getting screwed by the patch and by the delay of RtO.

well, because of it, pc/ps3 owners are getting screwed as well. so in other words, everybody is getting screwed. (that almost sounds too dirty).

[addiction21]

Abriael_CG wrote...

topet wrote...

Just a few days till ME2 hits the stores.

umh, and?

Mass Effect 2 will for sure be a great game. Better than DA:O? Debatable. Mass Effect 1 was not.
Hopefully Mass Effect 2's characters are better written than in the first game, otherwise we're in for some disappointment.

I can not really comment on the characters since I am only like 3 hours in maybe. Everytime I get on a elevator I start thinking of all the other things I can do and wander off.
A;sp being ex-military I tend to have a problem with when I point my gun at somebody, shoot, and then the bullet veers off at a 30 degree angle right out the barrel
I want to like it I really do and I really hate leaving a story "half read" but it just might not be my cup of tea.

[Loerwyn]

Abriael_CG wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...
Experience? Common sense?

The 360's been out longer than the PS3 for a start. Modern Warfare 2 on the 360 was the best selling game of 2009 as well, and Halo: ODST was ~9th on that list.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if Dragon Age sold more on the PC, but I have a strong feeling it's sold more copies on the 360.

A big chunk of the 360's installed base is made by faulty systems that have been replaced, so I wouldn't be so quick saying that 360 has a much bigger installed base than the PS3, and the marging is shrinking by the day. At the moment the PS3 is "the console to have" for hardcore gamers, and the trend is in it's favor.
Not all games sell more on the 360. Actually lately it's quite an equal comparison if not fav orable for the PS3. Some kind of games sell more on the 360, some on the PS3. Modern Warfare has a very strong online component and is a shooter, thing that caters to the 360 crowd more. Arkham Asylum sold more on PS3, just to make an example. To name some others, Tekken, Street Fighter IV, basicallty all sport games (like Madden or PES). You can bet your pants that the PS3 sales of Final Fantasy XIII will obliterate the 360 ones despite it being multiplatform. Also, you can easily expect that Gran Turismo 5 (if it's not a legend ) will outsell Forza 3 by at the very least 2 to 1.

Given that DA:O on PC sold more than Total War, and it's one of the games that the PC gaming community was awaiting most eagerly, while on the 360 it's rather lackluster due to the bad controls, I can pretty much assure you than the PC version outsold the 360 one by quite a good chunk. Not only that, but the 360 version has pretty much collapsed in sales after release, as most consoles titles do. Due to the moddability of the game and word of mouth, the PC version will probably go on selling quite well for months to come. So the gap between the PC and the 360 version is bound to increase.

In November, at least, Dragon Age sold more on the 360 than any other platform.
http://www.gamespot....adlines;title;1

Can't find any figures that are more recent, but I would warrant the trend continued.

[Glorfindel7]

More than two weeks now. So does anyone still believe that BW is working hard on this? BW has some much bigger deadlines coming up and, one assumes, the RtO would have been 'pre-reassigned' to something else if BW did not in fact know until the last minute that RtO was nonfunctional. It is hard to believe that a competent company could take so long to correct this, given it is a very small add-on to an existing game, assuming there were adequate resources assigned to the task. Suspect this has been given to the night janitor to have a whirl after cleaning the toilets. They certainly haven't 'wasted' any resources keeping their customer base informed of progress, quite possibly because there has been none and will be none for awhile. Ah well, morning update check complete, back to Oblivion.

[Abriael_CG]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...
In November, at least, Dragon Age sold more on the 360 than any other platform.
http://www.gamespot....adlines;title;1

Can't find any figures that are more recent, but I would warrant the trend continued.

You forgot the fact that NPD considers only the american market, and in the US the 360 is quote a lot bigger than in the rest of the world.

Also, NPD only considers brick and mortar stores. They include no data from Digital Distribution. A lot of PC gamers bought DA:O from Steam and other online providers like Direct2Drive. DA:O has topped the chart for both initially, and has been hovering near the top for a while. That's not really a small chunk of sales, expecilaly since the PC market has shifted very very heavily on digital distribution lately.

So yeah, it's very, very likely that the PC version outsold the 360 one, and the gap will increase further.

Glorfindel7 wrote...

More than two weeks now. So does
anyone still believe that BW is working hard on this? BW has some much
bigger deadlines coming up

If you mean Mass Effect 2, then it's inconsequential. Mass Effect 2 is worked on by Bioware Montreal, while Dragon Age is made by Bioware Edmonton. Different teams for different games.

. Ah well, morning update check complete, back
to Oblivion.

Was this a snide way to "punish" bioware telling "I'm going to play the game made by your rivals! neener neener!"
Yanno, settling for an inferior game just to "punish" bioware in the end punishes only you

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 20 janvier 2010 - 03:58 .

[rruffo]

hey guys , i too think DOA is a great game and WAS looking foward to RTO but bio missed the boat on this release and they know it. Personally i feel the should release it for free to componsate . to many great games coming to worry about a 60 min add on. Bioshock 2 , stalker: call of pripyat , metro 2033 i am playing Divinity 2 Ego Draconis for the PC and its right up their with DOA ! Please Bioware no more 90 min missions release them all in one package and i will play.

[gigantic muffin]

1joseph1 wrote...

Is there anyway to get my game back to what it was before the patch?

yes. go back a page.  I posted a fix that works.  It's very simple.