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[OH-UP-THIS!]

The Angry One wrote...

I say it should be free for PC users.
360ers should pay the normal price.
PS3ers should pay double.

*retreats to asbestos bunker*

while I agree on the PC part, as far as I'm concerned, both consoles should pay at least double, lol.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

rruffo wrote...

i need the true gamers to back me up ! Bioware makes great games i have been playing their games on PC since day one , DOA comes out and it is 75 + hours of greatness and all of the sudden Bioware is releasing these 40 min snipits of game play i cant help being cheated out of the full release of DOA ! i know its a company and the company wants to make cash but come on ! With the delay of RTO and disrupting the 360 gamers during their campaign , i dont know...... somthing doesnt feel right paying 5 dollars for 40 min give or take of game play . I feel Bio should throw RTO at us for free for being patient and loyal fans. TELL ME IF IM WRONG GUYS

Your wrong. I'll tackle your main issue which seems to be that you are complaining about them bringing out DLCs that are short. If they weren't short they would all be expansions and would take a LOT longer to create. You got an issue paying $5 for something alleged to be 40 minutes, simple don't buy it. No one is forcing you to. Not Biowares fault if you have got an addiction for their games.

Edit: Not to the person I am replying to, but all the others. Can we seriously stop the pathetically childish PCvsConsole wars please? Seriously grow up. It should cost whatever was initially set not double or more just because it is a different device than what you play on.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 21 janvier 2010 - 01:54 .

[chaostheory59]

Im not gonna bother reading this 169 pages worth of spam....have they released return to Ostagar?

[Kazren]

It still says "Available Soon."

[glowgoboy]

I've said it before, I'll say it again, if you're this starved for content, grab the level editor and freaking make it yourselves!

[chaostheory59]

Well thats the problem.........i have it for xbox.......i might get it for PC once i get my Alienware.

[Dragoon Remnant]

how many expansions do you think there are going to be?

[chaostheory59]

one probably.

[addiction21]

chaostheory59 wrote...

one probably.

Any reasons you think that.  With the first one coming so soon I would think there would at least be plans for 2 expansions before the sequel. It really depends on how well the first one sells imho.

[chaostheory59]

addiction21 wrote...

chaostheory59 wrote...

one probably.

Any reasons you think that.  With the first one coming so soon I would think there would at least be plans for 2 expansions before the sequel. It really depends on how well the first one sells imho.

In fact, there might not be any sequel or another expansion.
This expansion is suppose to answer almost all the unanswered questions in the first.
If they do answer them all, and do make sequels, it will be kind of repetative.

[addiction21]

chaostheory59 wrote...



In fact, there might not be any sequel or another expansion.
This expansion is suppose to answer almost all the unanswered questions in the first.
If they do answer them all, and do make sequels, it will be kind of repetative.

Maybe it will answer some of the unanswered questions but that does not mean it cannot raise some more questions that need to be answered. Theres no reason it needs to be one or the other does it?
I do not follow your logic for the sequel. Theres is a lot more to the DAO world then what we have seen. Many more places to see, adventures to be had, and places to burn down.

[Phoenix Swordsinger]

I would love to see a sequel, next generation maybe, but Hmmmm, who would the bad guys be?

Modifié par Phoenix Swordsinger, 21 janvier 2010 - 02:41 .

[chaostheory59]

it wouldnt be the blight, cuz that would be just repetitive. Hmmm, maybe a war amongst the countries?
or if they do want to include the blight. a war amongst the countries, blight occurs, largest ever, and Grey Wardens try to unite all of the warring lands to fight against the blight.
this allowing the Player to chose to be an Tavinterium Warden, Antivan warden, Orlesian warden, Ferelden Warden, and whatever countries are left.
Or maybe
this gonna sound kinda stupid,
but make like a WOW version.
Online game
where Player can choose any country including the Blight.
its stupid cuz its similar to WOW, but just an idea to take in mind

Modifié par chaostheory59, 21 janvier 2010 - 02:52 .

[Mechnic]

addiction21 wrote...

chaostheory59 wrote...

one probably.

Any reasons you think that.  With the first one coming so soon I would think there would at least be plans for 2 expansions before the sequel. It really depends on how well the first one sells imho.

Reasons to think that??? Well there is ONE BIG reason: they can't even get a 60 minute dlc right.
To me IMHO they promised dlc and expansions when they advertised this game and they have completely fooked that up. So they have NOT lived up to the original implied contract. And it all has to do with EA and NOT BioWare. EA has fooked up so many good gaming software companies that it just makes me cringe. Where is Bill Gates or the other multi rich guy to buy this scurge of a company and then kill it?

I absolutely hate EA. And I hope they fail and that the good gaming companies like BioWare will rise from the ashes.

[The Angry One]

Mechnic wrote...

Reasons to think that??? Well there is ONE BIG reason: they can't even get a 60 minute dlc right.
To me IMHO they promised dlc and expansions when they advertised this game and they have completely fooked that up. So they have NOT lived up to the original implied contract. And it all has to do with EA and NOT BioWare. EA has fooked up so many good gaming software companies that it just makes me cringe. Where is Bill Gates or the other multi rich guy to buy this scurge of a company and then kill it?

Micro$oft is a bigger problem than EA ever was.
Hell it's entirely M$'s fault that we're in this mess, through their insistance on funneling any game update through their clunky and fault-prone title update system, and no doubt their contract which stipulates if they don't get DLC, nobody else does.

[addiction21]

chaostheory59 wrote...

it wouldnt be the blight, cuz that would be just repetitive. Hmmm, maybe a war amongst the countries?
or if they do want to include the blight. a war amongst the countries, blight occurs, largest ever, and Grey Wardens try to unite all of the warring lands to fight against the blight.
this allowing the Player to chose to be an Tavinterium Warden, Antivan warden, Orlesian warden, Ferelden Warden, and whatever countries are left.
Or maybe
this gonna sound kinda stupid,
but make like a WOW version.
Online game
where Player can choose any country including the Blight.
its stupid cuz its similar to WOW, but just an idea to take in mind

Well there is Sten's race who are conquerors and are more technologicaly advanced then everyone else. The rest having a hands up in the magic department and are at war with the Tevintar. I think that would be a interesting setting.
Its funny you say the WoW thing. I know in response to some of the "we want online" threads some devs have said something along the lines of "well not for this game but its not out of the question of a online game in the DAO universe". Not their exact words I will take a look around for where it was.
There is also the new star wars MMO that is to be story driven. So it would not be a suprise if the next project would be something like a DAO mmo but thats some years down the line.

[Orcadian]

When they do make a sequal, which going on the trend of things will be after 2-3 expansion packs, I hope they do away with the grey warden thing, I didn't find that they made being a grey warden all that relevant to the game. I don't see a need for the blight to be an enemy in the sequal either, and I find the blight made for a poor enemy. I prefer enemies more to what Loghain was then the blight.

As for the MMO thing, I doubt they'll rush into making another MMO right now with all their work on Star Wars and Warhammer right now. I imagine they'll build some lore with their single player games and their books first and then look at creating an MMO off of that.

On to topic now. Any ETA on a release time for the DLC?

Modifié par Orcadian, 21 janvier 2010 - 03:13 .

[Forest03]

@ Orcadian : You're right. The likes of Loghain make for a far more tactically challenging enemy, not to mention a more immersive story line. But this is medieval fantasy. There has to be a fair share of monsters and such along with the political maneuvering.



From what I've seen and read, that's what Bioware intends to do with the "Awakening" xpac - introduce a more intelligent and manipulative demon or darkspawn.



And, no, no word yet. And seeing as there have already been two announced delays, I wouldn't hold my breath. At any rate, there should be a few custom builds out there to keep us busy in the meantime.

[halfempty77]

there was a map posted online of the world in which DAO is set and it is at least 10 times the size of ferelden...there could be many interesting expansions AND sequels...that is unless we continue to blow ths wayyyyyy out of proportion and **** and moan that everything that BW does should now be free...what a bunch of ****! would you go to work if you didn't get paid? grow up...programming is a very complex process give them some damnbreathing room. and don't be pissed at the programmers and devs be angry at the higherups who don't completely understand how difficult and time consuming it is to program and how they force release dates before the programmers can deliver a solid product.

[Judah11]

Forest03 wrote...

@ Orcadian : You're right. The likes of Loghain make for a far more tactically challenging enemy, not to mention a more immersive story line. But this is medieval fantasy. There has to be a fair share of monsters and such along with the political maneuvering.

From what I've seen and read, that's what Bioware intends to do with the "Awakening" xpac - introduce a more intelligent and manipulative demon or darkspawn.

And, no, no word yet. And seeing as there have already been two announced delays, I wouldn't hold my breath. At any rate, there should be a few custom builds out there to keep us busy in the meantime.

That's nice.
I have an xbox 360, not a gaming computer.
Thanks.

[Fedaykin Oathium]

Judah11 wrote...

Forest03 wrote...

@ Orcadian : You're right. The likes of Loghain make for a far more tactically challenging enemy, not to mention a more immersive story line. But this is medieval fantasy. There has to be a fair share of monsters and such along with the political maneuvering.

From what I've seen and read, that's what Bioware intends to do with the "Awakening" xpac - introduce a more intelligent and manipulative demon or darkspawn.

And, no, no word yet. And seeing as there have already been two announced delays, I wouldn't hold my breath. At any rate, there should be a few custom builds out there to keep us busy in the meantime.

That's nice.
I have an xbox 360, not a gaming computer.
Thanks.

lol, I have both, and much prefer the graphics on my PC over the xbox, not to mention I don't have to worry about my xbox RROD. Having to spend obscene amounts of money to get something as simple as a stupid 120gb hdd to store my games on so my dvd drive doesn't sound like a F-15 at military thrust 100% of the time while playing games. Ohh and I can surf the interwebz while waiting for my game to load.

[Sethan_1]

Having been in software development, and currently being head dev for a NWN server, I lay down this challenge for all those complaining about how Bioware "can't get one extra hour of content right."



Come up with an idea for an add-on for DA:O that gives an extra hour of new content gameplay. Then decide on a release date. Once that is done, get the toolset and make it, so it integrates dialog and decisions for the rest of the game. Then make Console versions of your add-on. When finished, see how close you got to your release date. If you missed by more than 5 days early, have someone yell at you for padding your time and causing future release dates to be later than they could have been. If you missed by more than 5 days late, post here, and request that a few thousand people yell at you because something unforeseen went wrong.



While being yelled at, see how much enthusiasm you have for continuing to work on making things for other people to enjoy.

[BlackCrusader]

Sethan_1 wrote...

Having been in software development, and currently being head dev for a NWN server, I lay down this challenge for all those complaining about how Bioware "can't get one extra hour of content right."

Come up with an idea for an add-on for DA:O that gives an extra hour of new content gameplay. Then decide on a release date. Once that is done, get the toolset and make it, so it integrates dialog and decisions for the rest of the game. Then make Console versions of your add-on. When finished, see how close you got to your release date. If you missed by more than 5 days early, have someone yell at you for padding your time and causing future release dates to be later than they could have been. If you missed by more than 5 days late, post here, and request that a few thousand people yell at you because something unforeseen went wrong.

While being yelled at, see how much enthusiasm you have for continuing to work on making things for other people to enjoy.

Amen, brother.

[Abriael_CG]

Sethan_1 wrote...

Having been in software development, and currently being head dev for a NWN server, I lay down this challenge for all those complaining about how Bioware "can't get one extra hour of content right."

Come up with an idea for an add-on for DA:O that gives an extra hour of new content gameplay. Then decide on a release date. Once that is done, get the toolset and make it, so it integrates dialog and decisions for the rest of the game. Then make Console versions of your add-on. When finished, see how close you got to your release date. If you missed by more than 5 days early, have someone yell at you for padding your time and causing future release dates to be later than they could have been. If you missed by more than 5 days late, post here, and request that a few thousand people yell at you because something unforeseen went wrong.

While being yelled at, see how much enthusiasm you have for continuing to work on making things for other people to enjoy.

Ah, this thread is becoming such a lovely collection of the most vile "flawed arguments of the century. Internet forums edition".

Now it's the turn of the most basic strawman argument: "If you can't do it, you have no right to complain"
It didn't come up for a few pages, mind you, so it was natural that some misguided smartiepants would have brought it up again sooner or later.

Maybe you should get an idea nailed in your brain: Bioware developers are PAID to do all the things you listed, and have a whole team to achieve the results you mentioned.
They aren't amateur volunteers sacrificing for the greater good and fueling their "enthusiasm" into a project in order to "make things for other people to enjoy". They are professionals performing a well paid job.

They are the developers. We are the customers. Our own coding/toolset abilities have no bearing to our right to complain when we are offered a sub par product, or in this case, when a release schedule gets so messed up that many of us, long after what supposed to be the release date, already paid for a product that we don't have. And on top of it communication is direly insufficent.

Mind you, if everyone had the technical capabilitues to take you up on your flamebat challenge, maybe there'd be less complaints, but one thing is for sure, your beloved developers would be unemployed. So they can be happy that they have this kind of following, complaining or not.

If one of my clients has a legitimate problem with a project I deliver, I sure won't give him the silly line: "if you can't do it yourself, don't complain". If he could do it, he wouldn't give me money to do it. And the fact that he gives me money, gives him plenty right to complain if I don't deliver, deliver late, or don't communicate properly when there are problems.

Maybe you did? That might be the reason why you "have been" in software development. Past tense.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 21 janvier 2010 - 05:19 .

[OH-UP-THIS!]

BlackCrusader wrote...

Sethan_1 wrote...

Having been in software development, and currently being head dev for a NWN server, I lay down this challenge for all those complaining about how Bioware "can't get one extra hour of content right."

Come up with an idea for an add-on for DA:O that gives an extra hour of new content gameplay. Then decide on a release date. Once that is done, get the toolset and make it, so it integrates dialog and decisions for the rest of the game. Then make Console versions of your add-on. When finished, see how close you got to your release date. If you missed by more than 5 days early, have someone yell at you for padding your time and causing future release dates to be later than they could have been. If you missed by more than 5 days late, post here, and request that a few thousand people yell at you because something unforeseen went wrong.

While being yelled at, see how much enthusiasm you have for continuing to work on making things for other people to enjoy.

Amen, brother.

thanks, I was going to type a longer version, but these nubs aren't worth my time and effort.

I've tried to explain it to them in a shorter more concise format, and they're just hell-bent on self-destruction, lynch-mob attitudes are wearing kinda thin as well.