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[JaymesGaGa]

Thursday 14th January, 12pm ... still, nothing.



zzz

[princeslaney]

Simple question to EA: Is RtO for the PC still being released today... Yes or No?

[bjdbwea]

Oh, the good old days... where a company would develop a real add-on, test it properly (hopefully), then sell it on a disc. But seriously, you all shouldn't freak out like that. You're getting, what? One hour of gameplay? It isn't worth the money to me, but if it's to you, surely it's worth the wait as well.

[Vaedian]

So ridiculous.

Next time, make it PC-exclusive again, like grown-ups.

[Marionetten]

So much for the console versions having no impact on the PC version.

[Kail Ashton]

*enjoys popcorn and the misery of PC owners* yes, yes dance little monkeys, dance for you peanuts~!

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

JaymesGaGa wrote...

Thursday 14th January, 12pm ... still, nothing.

zzz

12pm our time, not theres... remember they are in Edmonton which is -7 GMT, so it is only just gone 5am there

[Discursion]

Marionetten wrote...

So much for the console versions having no impact on the PC version.

[Kedrich du Bois]

Vaedian wrote...

Next time, make it PC-exclusive again, like grown-ups.

Irony.

[Silensfurtim]

See Bioware? This is what happens if you go multiplatform and submitting yourselves to evils like M$, Sony and EA.

[Yai-Kai]

Vaedian wrote...

So ridiculous.

Next time, make it PC-exclusive again, like grown-ups.

I would love to agree with you there, but that would mean Mass Effect should have stayed x360 specific aswell.
I do however would like the old days back, where 1 team handled consoles, and another handled pc (usually ending up in the pc version having superious gfx, rather then toned down ones cause it has to match console hardware)
Call me oldskool, but that worked just great.
What pisses me off most is this simultanious release crap, what's the POINT? Seriously, enlighten me, for I am in the dark ><'

[BTA1]

If you don't want people to get all mad and spam the forums again, perhaps you should just tell them about the PC version. It's only gonna take you like 1 minute to write a post and you'll avoid pissing all your consumers off.

[MacMurphy]

Kail Ashton wrote...

*enjoys popcorn and the misery of PC owners* yes, yes dance little monkeys, dance for you peanuts~!

lol! and i'm a pc owner
You know, i've tried to get even a tiny bit stressed about these DLC troubles but i just can't.
In the grand scheme of things it's just not important. It's a game  

[Killian Kalthorne]

RageGT wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Not to be mean or anything, but someone or a few someones should lose their job over this.

That's funny to hear. First is "life in prison w/out parole" for those who got that which shall not be named. Then it is those incompetents and now "give 'em the sack".

I don't suppose you own any business or never had a bad day at work, which I hope is not as a Court Judge. You'd suck at it!

A bad day at work can be worth one mess up, even two.  This is the third.  If I messed up that many times at my work I would be sacked.

[MoSa09]

Yai-Kai wrote...

Vaedian wrote...

So ridiculous.

Next time, make it PC-exclusive again, like grown-ups.

I would love to agree with you there, but that would mean Mass Effect should have stayed x360 specific aswell.
I do however would like the old days back, where 1 team handled consoles, and another handled pc (usually ending up in the pc version having superious gfx, rather then toned down ones cause it has to match console hardware)
Call me oldskool, but that worked just great.
What pisses me off most is this simultanious release crap, what's the POINT? Seriously, enlighten me, for I am in the dark ><'

This is easy. People are heavely spoiling in the no-spoilers section. If you release for each of the three on a different date, those that get it first will be spoiling as hell, as well as the ones who get it second in line, and the who are last will be pretty pissed and complaining that they are mistreated since they get it last and probably won't buy cause they have read everything here.
Even now, when it's seems to be a clear Microsoft fault, people are complaining that XBox users get privileged. Just imagine the rants here BioWare would officially priviliege a system? *Shudder*
Simultaneous release is the only way out of this misery

[Icejr2013]

HURRRY PLEASE....My anticipation for this is killing me...and btw...ps3 owns all

[Abriael_CG]

Marionetten wrote...

So much for the console versions having no impact on the PC version.

This.

Not that I think that they should have not developed the title for consoles. The times are what they are and consoles are too big of a slice of the market to be able to develop a true AAA game while ignoring them. It simply won't happen, and we all know. Maybe, though it'd be a good idea to separate PC development and timelines from that of consoles. the PS3 version has an evidently separate roadmap. I'd say it's time for the 360 version to join it's colleague.

On bioware's behalf, the playtesting department of basically every major company in the gaming market received a severe hit from the current economy situation. When most software houses have been forced to lay off a portion of their employees, QA departments all over the world have been maimed. I have quite a few friends that earned their groceries by playtesting games, and I'd say at least a 60% of them had to go out find an "honest" job during 2009.
The same happened with EA (I was a major fan of Warhammer Online, and saw it's quality sadly sink like the Titanic as the QA team was hit by layoff after layoff) and as part of EA I can't help but think that the same happened to Bioware. The result is probably what we see now.

Now, the night has passed, and we got (understandably) no real answers. The waiting game begins again as office hours in Edmonton approach. Again, I (and i'm sure most here share the same sentment) would like to see a bit more transparent communication today.
I'd say our patience as customers (and many of us are paying customers, since we were led to believe that the PC DLC was to be released yesterday, and as such, we already paid for it with nothing to show for our money) has to be matched with a bit of honesty.

Does the bug directly affects the PC version of the game too?
If not, please just release it. There's no real reason to hold it back further to appease Microsoft. we have waited enough, and ironically many xbox360 gamers could already play the DLC with no problems, leaving us in the dust.
If yes, please give us a clear release date. Or at least a realistic timeframe. We have waited enough and have faced a bit too many "last minute" delays for confort. A "we'll make an announcement at a later date, thanks for all the fish" honestly doesn't cut it anymore.

I understand what people at Bioware might be going through, and I'm sympathetic. But I honestly believe we gave you and your "give as little information possible" policy quite a bit of leeway already. I'd say it's time for a change in this policy.
Thank you.

[Abriael_CG]

MoSa09 wrote...


This is easy. People are heavely spoiling in the no-spoilers
section. If you release for each of the three on a different date,
those that get it first will be spoiling as hell, as well as the ones
who get it second in line, and the who are last will be pretty pissed
and complaining that they are mistreated since they get it last and
probably won't buy cause they have read everything here.
Even now,
when it's seems to be a clear Microsoft fault, people are complaining
that XBox users get privileged. Just imagine the rants here BioWare
would officially priviliege a system? *Shudder*
Simultaneous release is the only way out of this misery

Keyword: People are already spoiling it. There's absolutely no reason to withold release of the PC version (provided it's free of the bug) to avoid spoilers, because a part of the 360 community is already spoiling it.
Releasing the PC version as soon as humanly possible (IE: today if it's free of the bug) would not be "privileging" a system. Would be avoiding a system (xbox360) to damage the users of another.
I don't see Bioware allowing Sony to damage PC and Xbox360 users with their longer certification queues. They simply release the PS3 version later. I don't see a single reason why they shouldn't extend the same treatment to Microsoft, that already screwed up epicly by releasing the DLC yesterday when they were not supposed to.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 14 janvier 2010 - 12:38 .

[Cybercat999]

Kail Ashton wrote...

*enjoys popcorn and the misery of PC owners* yes, yes dance little monkeys, dance for you peanuts~!

You know *some* of us are using our PCs for a little more than just gaming, some of us even think games are nothing but a marginal additional advantage of owning a decent PC. *shrug*

[RajvsarN]

MoSa09 wrote...

Yai-Kai wrote...

Vaedian wrote...

So ridiculous.

Next time, make it PC-exclusive again, like grown-ups.

I would love to agree with you there, but that would mean Mass Effect should have stayed x360 specific aswell.
I do however would like the old days back, where 1 team handled consoles, and another handled pc (usually ending up in the pc version having superious gfx, rather then toned down ones cause it has to match console hardware)
Call me oldskool, but that worked just great.
What pisses me off most is this simultanious release crap, what's the POINT? Seriously, enlighten me, for I am in the dark ><'

This is easy. People are heavely spoiling in the no-spoilers section. If you release for each of the three on a different date, those that get it first will be spoiling as hell, as well as the ones who get it second in line, and the who are last will be pretty pissed and complaining that they are mistreated since they get it last and probably won't buy cause they have read everything here.
Even now, when it's seems to be a clear Microsoft fault, people are complaining that XBox users get privileged. Just imagine the rants here BioWare would officially priviliege a system? *Shudder*
Simultaneous release is the only way out of this misery

If you go to a thread that is discussing the new dlc that you dont own yet, you cant expect it to be spoiler free. If you whine that people post spoilers in that thread aswell, you are ****ing stupid. Stay out of that thread until you have played it yourself.

[Loerwyn]

MoSa09 wrote...

Yai-Kai wrote...

Vaedian wrote...

So ridiculous.

Next time, make it PC-exclusive again, like grown-ups.

I would love to agree with you there, but that would mean Mass Effect should have stayed x360 specific aswell.
I do however would like the old days back, where 1 team handled consoles, and another handled pc (usually ending up in the pc version having superious gfx, rather then toned down ones cause it has to match console hardware)
Call me oldskool, but that worked just great.
What pisses me off most is this simultanious release crap, what's the POINT? Seriously, enlighten me, for I am in the dark ><'

This is easy. People are heavely spoiling in the no-spoilers section. If you release for each of the three on a different date, those that get it first will be spoiling as hell, as well as the ones who get it second in line, and the who are last will be pretty pissed and complaining that they are mistreated since they get it last and probably won't buy cause they have read everything here.
Even now, when it's seems to be a clear Microsoft fault, people are complaining that XBox users get privileged. Just imagine the rants here BioWare would officially priviliege a system? *Shudder*
Simultaneous release is the only way out of this misery

But BioWare do unofficially "priviledge" a system, the PC. They developed Baldur's Gate 1, 2 (expansions for both IIRC), NWN... You know, some of the best RPGs out? Mass Effect, when released for the PC, came with the first DLC pack for free and then one of the PC editions of Dragon Age: Origins had all the launch DLC as part of the package (Digital Deluxe). Jade Empire was released only as a "Special Edition" on the PC, and they oversaw production on NWN2 and assissted (I think) with the Witcher, another great RPG.

I have to say that I think BioWare do prefer the PC more than consoles, it's where they've had the majority of their success, fame and fanbase.

EDIT: Whoops, missed the "un" from "unofficially 

Modifié par OnlyShallow89, 14 janvier 2010 - 12:44 .

[Lucy Glitter]

vilnii wrote...

Bioware is already severely embarrassed that RTO has managed to stump them this many times.

Folks should lighten up on the criticism and let them fix the DLC

[StuartMarshall]

Is there a thread for non-spoiler reviews of RTO yet? I'm torn on whether to buy it - on principle I don't want to but I have lots of time and lots of boredom at the moment, so am wondering what the concensus is from those who have managed to get it.