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[MerinTB]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry folks. Until we get the information straight for all versions, I am not going to piece-meal out bits and bots. I know you are all waiting on updates for all 3 platforms and when I can confirm things for you, I will.

It seems to infuriate some of you that I post here without giving you details, and I am sorry for that too. I want you to know that we have not forgotten about you or these issues. We are working on things and will update you as soon as we have details. While it is not yet enough information, I believe it is better to know we are still listening and working  rather than being ignored and left in the dark.

People will probably complain regardless, as you well know.
I think you are doing the right thing letting everyone know that you are paying attention and information will be shared when it is ready.

That doesn't mean I'm not frustrated, but honestly, who isn't at this point?

[Abriael_CG]

BardKesnit wrote...

Except you were complaining above about the fact BW has delayed RTO several times already. I suspect if Chris came back 1 hour from now and said the PC and PS3 RTOs were on indefiniate hold, you would be complaining about that.

1: Indefinite hold is never a good idea. That's what planning is for.
2: Transparent information is always better than "we'll let you know when we'll let you know". People would just leave the forum be and go do something else instead of continuing to check in hope for new information.

360 games are BROKEN. All existing saves are GLITCHED AND CANNOT BE FIXED. That is far and away a larger problem than some (short) DLC being delayed.

Now now, You CAN play, and can re-unlock specializations. So no, you're clearly exaggerating the issue here. It's not "BROKEN" (in all caps too). If you don't want to play like that it's your choice, but you can.

[Varyen]

I'm betting that half of the people complaining about the push backs are either current WoW players or, used to be WoW players or are taking a break for X amount of time from WoW. Either way, you are all used to this, you just want something to complain about like most people & I'm betting more then half of you wouldn't know how to read what they're looking for to beging with Problem is, this is the way things are in this day & time, no one, company etc etc etc can perdict what happens. As a player of WoW who is taking a extended break from the game, I AM used to this, I am used to wierd glitches & bugs happen that do take time to fix & trust me I have felt ignored as with alot of ppl who play the classes I play. get used to it because it's not going away or going to get any better & if you get pissed off enough to go to Game Stop & trade in, you'll be X's game forums making the very same complaints again I bet.



Chris, my GF & I want the DLC to be in working order before we DL it so do w/e is needed for that to happen when you do release RTO.

[darkshadow136]

please don't get this thread locked by talking about that subject again.

[Bllack Falcon]

blade-rpg wrote...

Bllack Falcon wrote...

I'm guessing this glitch isn't specialization-specific, as I should've got the party member achievement last night and the only reason I can think that it didn't unlock is that one of the 'complete set' of allies only joined my party on my previous playthrough...

not if you have had all party members (not needed in every play) they it should have

That's what I mean - between my first and current saves, I have recruited them all (got the 'secret' one last night) and it hasn't unlocked.  That's why I'm thinking, as specializations are something that's meant to carry over from save to save, that the problems could be linked

[Gabbybri]

I have to admit I didn't even know about yesterdays release date, a friend called me this morning asking me to check for the Pc Version I had been trying to avoid all the dissapointment and just D/L when its in my game already. Word travels fast even if its crap lol.

[AtLastForgot]

I'm quivering in my boots waiting for this update. Need more Dragon Age!



I sincerely hope the Expansion isn't plagued by this kind of progressive delay otherwise I may perish from suspense.

[th3warr1or]

Abriael_CG wrote...
Now now, You CAN play, and can re-unlock specializations. So no, you're clearly exaggerating the issue here. It's not "BROKEN" (in all caps too). If you don't want to play like that it's your choice, but you can.

No you can't. Turn off your xbox and everything you just unlocked becomes locked again.

[RogueWriter3201]

Though it would seem there are a great many forum goers who are all too happy to justify thier malcontent for a majority of reasons, it is still comforting to see the occasional forum member who can be compasionate and understanding towards Bioware and the Devs right now. To the later, I thank you.

Having worked in a Publishing House for several years I am all too familiar with the stress that can come with having a highly anticipated release go off plan, and the backlash that can result towards either the Author or the Publisher. As such, I shall maintain my stance of patience as Bioware continues to sort out the hows and whys and see this issue resolved.

Though, at this juncture, it seems rather pointless to ask for calm to those adamant about thier specific version being released (PC, PS3, etc) I must none the less ask that forum posters attempt to keep this thread from becomming a Flame War. No one wants to see the communication from Chris or the other Community Mods cease due to the thread being closed or frustration getting the better of the Community Managers. As par the course, I think everyone just needs to go on with their respective lives, for now, and simply keep an extra eye open for any additional news or updates.  My thanks to the Community Mods for the recent posts.

[balgrove]

***edit*** Wow, someone's looking for a ban...

Modifié par Eurypterid, 14 janvier 2010 - 06:30 .

[jedimaster52501]

HyperLimited wrote...

jedimaster52501 wrote...

i know the higher ups are still working on the issues at hand, here is a suggestion, why not just put RtO on the Awakening Disc for all 3 versions of the game, it will save us all a hassle and it will give you guys more time to get all the bugs worked out, it is a win win in my opinion, who agrees with me on this?

No...Just, no.

why not, i think it is a wonderful idea and like i said, it will give Bioware more time to get all the bugs worked on, i am all for it. i would rather wait a couple more months to play RtO bug free then to play it now and get more bugs and want to throw something at the game.

[addiction21]

Shakes McQueen wrote...
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There's no reason why  they can't simply state if there's a problem with the other versions, and that they either have an approximate timeframe for when the issue might be resolved, or that they don't know yet.

I appreciate that delays happen, and I appreciate even more a company that is willing to release things "when they are done".  But neither of those things preclude Bioware from being able to be more transparent with us - especially when you consider that many people already spent money on DLC "points" they currently can't use.

- Scott

I am sure they have their reasons why they have not posted detailed information on what, where, how, when, who went wrong. I just doubt many that are demanding full transparency would accept those reasons at all because it still denies them what they want.

[Abriael_CG]

bconk55 wrote...
Honestly, it could be any of the things you listed. More importantly, however, releasing the PC version at the moment would take resources that are more likely than not tied up in both the Xbox bug

And that would be quite a problem.
1: they should have (and probably DO have) different teams working on different versions of the game. It'd be madness otherwise. I highly doubt that a PC coder is that freely interchangeable with an Xbox 360 coder, as similar the systems may be, the architecture is still different.
2: There's absolutely no reason in heaven or hell for one bugged platform to hold back all the other platforms. It's like saying "pissing off everyone is better than pissing off just a part of the customer base". IF the PC version is ready then it's release should be priority, expecially in the light of yesterday's announcement that misled people into purchasing the points for the DLC. IF it's not, then they should just clearly state so.  If they don't know, again they should clearly state so. "generic" announcement are the worst enemies in damage control situations.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 14 janvier 2010 - 06:27 .

[knight5923]

jedimaster52501 wrote...

i know the higher ups are still working on the issues at hand, here is a suggestion, why not just put RtO on the Awakening Disc for all 3 versions of the game, it will save us all a hassle and it will give you guys more time to get all the bugs worked out, it is a win win in my opinion, who agrees with me on this?

Mainly because Awakening is a stand alone and seperate story line, whereas RtO is inline with the story of the main game. It would be kind of like putting RtO on the Mass Effect 2 disc. In addition, there may be those out there who would want either RtO or awakening, but not both (though I don't know who that would be)

[SotF]

One thing it may be is not a direct issue with the patch itself, just that the interaction with it and RTO triggered it. This could also be something tied into the way DA DLC works and in which case, it is better that it has been caught now rather than later when it would hit everyone.



Also consider that the patch has not been pulled, but RTO has been.

[HyperLimited]

jedimaster52501 wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

jedimaster52501 wrote...

i know the higher ups are still working on the issues at hand, here is a suggestion, why not just put RtO on the Awakening Disc for all 3 versions of the game, it will save us all a hassle and it will give you guys more time to get all the bugs worked out, it is a win win in my opinion, who agrees with me on this?

No...Just, no.

why not, i think it is a wonderful idea and like i said, it will give Bioware more time to get all the bugs worked on, i am all for it. i would rather wait a couple more months to play RtO bug free then to play it now and get more bugs and want to throw something at the game.

Because we shouldn't have to wait a couple of more months for content as short as RTO. Besides, it wouldn't make the people who already bought points for it happy, like myself.

[jedimaster52501]

***edit*** Let's keep to the subject at hand.

Modifié par Eurypterid, 14 janvier 2010 - 06:33 .

[bconk55]

Abriael_CG wrote...

BardKesnit wrote...

Except you were complaining above about the fact BW has delayed RTO several times already. I suspect if Chris came back 1 hour from now and said the PC and PS3 RTOs were on indefiniate hold, you would be complaining about that.

1: Indefinite hold is never a good idea. That's what planning is for.
2: Transparent information is always better than "we'll let you know when we'll let you know". People would just leave the forum be and go do something else instead of continuing to check in hope for new information.

360 games are BROKEN. All existing saves are GLITCHED AND CANNOT BE FIXED. That is far and away a larger problem than some (short) DLC being delayed.

Now now, You CAN play, and can re-unlock specializations. So no, you're clearly exaggerating the issue here. It's not "BROKEN" (in all caps too). If you don't want to play like that it's your choice, but you can.

You can reunlock the ones not taught through books (as the books do not show up if you had unlocked them previously), and ones that you hadn't unlocked that playthrough (obviously those are gone as well). Reports say that even these disappear once you shut off the game, maybe even after you switch characters or saves.

More importantly, there seems little reason to risk corrupting your saves, or playing for hours only to be told to reload an old save. There is no guarentee that a fix, whenever it actually shows up, will be retroactive.

[bluecuban]

Why can't everyone just be satisfied they are at work actually trying to solve the problem?



I understand people on PC being upset over spending the points ahead of time, but you at least know it is in fact coming. There are some on Xbox who already downloaded the patch, and it corrupted their save games. What if that can't be fixed? Contrary to some false belief, clearing the cache does not always fix the problem.



Chris is posting, what more do you want? You want play-by-play details on what they're doing to find the problem and fix it? You don't work at BioWare, they do, so let them do their jobs for goodness sake.



At least there are some people on this forum posting who are actually grateful to know the problem is being worked on, and not parading some silly PC vs. Xbox argument.

[jedimaster52501]

HyperLimited wrote...

jedimaster52501 wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

jedimaster52501 wrote...

i know the higher ups are still working on the issues at hand, here is a suggestion, why not just put RtO on the Awakening Disc for all 3 versions of the game, it will save us all a hassle and it will give you guys more time to get all the bugs worked out, it is a win win in my opinion, who agrees with me on this?

No...Just, no.

why not, i think it is a wonderful idea and like i said, it will give Bioware more time to get all the bugs worked on, i am all for it. i would rather wait a couple more months to play RtO bug free then to play it now and get more bugs and want to throw something at the game.

but think, you could use the points for something else and get the RtO for free, think about that?
Because we shouldn't have to wait a couple of more months for content as short as RTO. Besides, it wouldn't make the people who already bought points for it happy, like myself.

[Cross1280]

Ok, Lets "assume" that they do not know what is wrong with the Xbox release yet, so therefore they do not know if this bug is in the other versions or not. Now they could 1 hold back all 3 versions while they try to find the problem and verify that it is not in the other two versions then release them while working on a fix for the Xbox, or 2 they could "assume" that the PC version is good to go and release it and risk the same problem showing up on PC's or a worse problem showing up that is currupting your Hard drive. " an issue some people with 360's who did download and play the content are having."



Which senerio would you rather have?



My former boss always said when you "assume" you make an **** out of U and ME, and are about to create the mother of all F**k up's.

[jedimaster52501]

free is better then spending the 400 points and being disappointed, think about it people, it is a great idea. why spend 400 points on 15 minutes of something you will play once and never play again?

[Varyen]

Part of the problem is & what I think they're trying to figure out & work on is that what is done on "beta/ test" servers is sometimes far defferent from what hits live servers. With that said it's highly possible that it's the coding from "beta /test" servers to the live server that's the problem & is what they're trying to fix. I'm also betting the beta/test server works near perfect.

[halfempty77]

because we aren't just going to play it once...i have a few characters and plan on making many more

Modifié par halfempty77, 14 janvier 2010 - 06:31 .

[HyperLimited]

jedimaster52501 wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

jedimaster52501 wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

jedimaster52501 wrote...

i know the higher ups are still working on the issues at hand, here is a suggestion, why not just put RtO on the Awakening Disc for all 3 versions of the game, it will save us all a hassle and it will give you guys more time to get all the bugs worked out, it is a win win in my opinion, who agrees with me on this?

No...Just, no.

why not, i think it is a wonderful idea and like i said, it will give Bioware more time to get all the bugs worked on, i am all for it. i would rather wait a couple more months to play RtO bug free then to play it now and get more bugs and want to throw something at the game.

but think, you could use the points for something else and get the RtO for free, think about that?

There really isn't anything else to do with those points except download RTO. All in all, it would just make RTO look even worse for Bioware holding off it's release even longer than what's happening now.

Modifié par HyperLimited, 14 janvier 2010 - 06:33 .