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[JCrichton47]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Quit annoying them? I'm sorry, but at the moment, after several weeks of screwups,

>snip<

To put it down simply, after all the screwups, that go way beyond the usual in this kind of market (expecially due to the circumstances, all the delays have been announced at the very last moment for instance, or beyond the last moment, actually)I think we're entitled to a better and more complete communication on their plans and schedules.

I guess you won't be buying RtO after it comes out then.  Cuz that's the only way to show your true displeasure.  Ranting on a message board means nothing if you are still going to buy it anyway.

[ZerebusPrime]

I guess I should feel special simply by virtue of having downloaded and played the Ostagar pack before it got yanked off of X-Box Live. The error sounds like a one-or-two lines of code issue to me, something to render the game unable to look up previously earned achievements by way of corrupting the lookup function. Now they just need to go find those one or two lines hiding amongst the many tens of the thousands of lines of code that make up the game (which need not be directly within the title update).



Ah well, I needed to take a break from this game anyway.

[Joush]

I don't know, it seems fair to be annoyed when a patch that is needed to stay connected to xbox live when playing the game, breaks the game.



RTO isn't the big deal here, that they released a patch that can't be removed in any easy way and breaks the game is.

[Deiser]

n0y0ki wrote...

your post doesnt stand what so ever. i did read his post and it is a carbon copy of most the rant posts here about how " they have run into debacles such as this time and again etc etc".

Love the way you take his quote out of context. He was talking about the debacle surrounding the lack of communication, which proves my point.

my statement stands. code or give it a break.

I code for a living. I STILL have to give constant updates to the hospitals I am helping. Other game companies (like Blizzard, Turbine, etc) keep users as up-to-date as possible by informing the moderators, even if the programmers may or may not have time to post themselves. Try again.

Your whole "oh you are wrong because they won't have time to post while coding" crap is wrong and is a poor wave-off of people being annoyed at this. Even if the programmers don't post, they can send a quick, two or three sentence email to the moderators here to let people know what's going on. One email that short takes two or three minutes, then they can go back to work.

Again, start reading the posts you are criticizing.... and if you're going to quote someone, don't take it out of context.

Modifié par Deiser, 14 janvier 2010 - 10:35 .

[jennamarae]

Tymay - Unfortunately I had already played my game and saved it before I found out that the specializations bug existed so it's likely too late for that to work for me. Thanks for posting the code though. I'll give it a shot later with my fingers crossed and hope it works after all.

[n0y0ki]

Maviarab wrote...

You know, rather being high and mighty about people who have legitimate claims to be ranting and raving, if you dont like the comments, might be well advised to stay out of the forums mate

Just a friendly suggestion.

apparently you didnt see that i and my family play bother versions,
we got nailed with the xbox glitch and also got denied the pc version release.
legitimate claims?
yeah ok.

again, what is needed?
" damn it i want my dl content for pc!, i want my locked specs unlocked again so i dont have to start over!"

bam, must be fixed now
combined we have over 500 hours invested in bother versions.
again, its not as if im enjoying this in any way, neither are they.
but come on, is it helping to point out ever little delay or issue?
has it gotten you ANY satisfaction?
it is what it is, happened the way it happened.
i dled the RTO content minutes after it hit live market a day early.
ran in with my rogue and had a blast, just to switch to my arcane warrior i had started 3 days earlier, just to see it all gone spec wise.
wasnt pleasant at all.
ranting at chris or any other site people isnt going to get it fixed faster.
why is that so hard to get?

[addiction21]

Maviarab wrote...

You know, rather being high and mighty about people who have legitimate claims to be ranting and raving, if you dont like the comments, might be well advised to stay out of the forums mate

Well I am stoned and very buff but I do not understand what that has anything to do with this conversation... or does it? Maybe I should go up to Canada and hulk smash my way thru to the BW offices.

[Abriael_CG]

@n0y0ki:Not meeting an ETA once happens. Twice might happen in extreme conditions, but really really should not. Thrice means that a company has serious planning issues.

Being a professional doesn't just mean to beable to "do the job". there are a ton of people that can "do the job" but are unemployed. It also means being able to gauge your resources and workload in order to establish deadlines that you won't need to break. Of course you will never be able to meet ALL deadlines, but you can still get as close as possible. I don't see that happening here.



Also, when you can't meet a deadline, smug answers like "There's no ETA, it's ready when it's ready" don't really show much respect for the "damaged" party (IE: the ones that were waiting for the project/product and didn't get it on time). You go back to the drawing board, do whatever you can to gauge the real deadline correctly, and to meet it. Not giving further deadlines is the easy way out. Is it the professional or ethical way out? Not really.

[n0y0ki]

Deiser wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...

your post doesnt stand what so ever. i did read his post and it is a carbon copy of most the rant posts here about how " they have run into debacles such as this time and again etc etc".

Love the way you take his quote out of context. He was talking about the debacle surrounding the lack of communication, which proves my point.

my statement stands. code or give it a break.

I code for a living. I STILL have to give constant updates to the hospitals I am helping.

Your whole "oh you are wrong because they won't have time to post while coding" crap is wrong and is a poor wave-off of people being annoyed at this. Even if the programmers don't post, they can send a quick, two or three sentence email to the moderators here to let people know what's going on. One email that short takes two or three minutes, then they can go back to work.

Again, start reading the posts you are criticizing.... and if you're going to quote someone, don't take it out of context.

again.."because i do this a certain way everyone else should as well"
yeah, well done.
so because it works for you personally that way it should for all.
you code for MEDICAL reasons, you HAVE to post constantly.
give me a break, you want to compare that to vid game coding etc?
yeah, ok

Modifié par n0y0ki, 14 janvier 2010 - 10:37 .

[tymay33]

jennamarae wrote...

Tymay - Unfortunately I had already played my game and saved it before I found out that the specializations bug existed so it's likely too late for that to work for me. Thanks for posting the code though. I'll give it a shot later with my fingers crossed and hope it works after all.

Well maybe not all is lost, if you have no trouble going back to your last save prior to the update, then you might be ok. But as i suggested before: The specializations are linked to your EA account so i don't even know if it matters which save you use

[ZerebusPrime]

Removing the patch shouldn't be a problem. They can rewind every single operation in the title update and feed it in backwards in a new update if they have to.

[Frayyyy]

nmal015 wrote...

I hate to bring it up for risk of getting in trouble, but surely we should know if there are any serious bugs with the pc version. I think maybe there are some people out there who have played it already for some strange reason? Possibly someone here would have heard something from someone who heard it from someone?

From what I've read the people who did get a chance to play through it didn't have any problems at all, which makes this kind of weird that they haven't said a thing about the PC version
Especially since I already paid for my 400 points

Modifié par Frayyyy, 14 janvier 2010 - 10:39 .

[Deiser]

n0y0ki wrote...

again.."because i do this a certain way everyone else should as well"
yeah, well done.
so because it works for you personally that way it should for all.
you code for MEDICAL reasons, you HAVE to post constantly.
give me a break, you want to comapre that to vid game coding etc?
yeah, ok

You also conveniently ignored examples of GAME COMPANIES that DO keep people up to date. Good job! (b'_')b

Also, are you saying that just because Bioware doesn't HAVE to keep us updated they shouldn't? 

You really need to learn about relationships between customers and companies if you honestly think that.

[CmonCmon]

I DLed it but didn't play it. Some other stuff came up so I didn't get around to it. I was finally going to start it too. Well continue. Is it crazy I have the LE and all the DLC but have only played it for like 4 hours?

[Abriael_CG]

n0y0ki wrote...

again.."because i do this a certain way everyone else should as well"
yeah, well done.
so because it works for you personally that way it should for all.
you code for MEDICAL reasons, you HAVE to post constantly.
give me a break, you want to comapre that to vid game coding etc?
yeah, ok

Work is work, whether you work for hospitals or for another kind of customer base, respect for the customer that pays your groceries should always be the first concern. Now, I don't know about you, but in my eyes "there's no deadline, we'll update whenever we want" is not exactly a respectful way to deal with paying customers, expecially after three consecutive delays. 
Of course you're free to disagree, but that's my work ethics.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 14 janvier 2010 - 10:48 .

[knight5923]

I think I'm gonna start looking forward to Dark Void instead of this. It's looking like it'll probably be released first at this rate.

[tymay33]

CmonCmon wrote...

I DLed it but didn't play it. Some other stuff came up so I didn't get around to it. I was finally going to start it too. Well continue. Is it crazy I have the LE and all the DLC but have only played it for like 4 hours?

Since you did not play, try deleting your cache
(I am reposting the directions, because i know there are some people who only like to read the last page...Im sometimes one of them)


On the dashboard go to the "Home" tab and scroll over to "System Settings"

Find the "Memory" button and click on it.

Choose the location where your updates are downloaded to (most likely your hard drive)

Press "Y" for "Drive Options"

Enter
the following code : X, X, LB, RB, X, X. The following message should
appear: "Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage
devices?"
Select "Yes"

After it is done, restart your Xbox

Note:
This will erase ALL Title Updates for every game, so you will have to
download every TU again for all games (which really isnt a bad thing
just an FYI)

Again this might not (most likely) fix anything if you've already downloaded the update and played. But if you haven't already played then i see no reason why it wouldn't work


I hope this helps../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png

[Twiztid Ninja08]

what exactly is wrong with this new patch, i have RTO and the update, iv been playing since yesterday and its working perfectly fine. all my class specializations are there and working fine that i know of so can someone tell me whats wrong with the new patch?

[Abriael_CG]

Twiztid Ninja08 wrote...

what exactly is wrong with this new patch, i have RTO and the update, iv been playing since yesterday and its working perfectly fine. all my class specializations are there and working fine that i know of so can someone tell me whats wrong with the new patch?

Your specializations won't "disappear", they will, however, show as locked when you need to select a new one at level 7 and 14. If you're already beyond level 14 you shouldn't be affected until you play a character under that level.

[n0y0ki]

Deiser wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...

again.."because i do this a certain way everyone else should as well"
yeah, well done.
so because it works for you personally that way it should for all.
you code for MEDICAL reasons, you HAVE to post constantly.
give me a break, you want to comapre that to vid game coding etc?
yeah, ok

You also conveniently ignored examples of GAME COMPANIES that DO keep people up to date. Good job! (b'_')b

Also, are you saying that just because Bioware doesn't HAVE to keep us updated they shouldn't? 

You really need to learn about relationships between customers and companies if you honestly think that.

do i sound to you like a "recent gamer"?
my first system was the odyssey master command console, been gaming since then.
ive been done wrong by companies same as anyone else.
hell i spent years on psu, after being a rabid pso fan.
watched the japanese servers get more than a year and a half ahead of us in updates, item, character class changes/enhancements.
my solution? stop paying them and playing their games, not ranting like a spoiled brat.
thats simply one example.
again, im not saying im happy about all this, nor should you or anyone else be.
but its not helping nor doing a damn thing but keeping the rant going.
it will be fixed when its fixed, things take time.

and to put it into context, you code, send your message to one client that issues that message and done.
do you have to code, go through your company, which in turn goes through another company that then has to test your code, match and compare it to theirs, test it for compatability, message back with issues, have you fix it then resubmit it again to test and so on?
doesnt sound like it.

im quite aware of "consumer/company relations"
i also have the understanding and patient to see both sides of said coin and how it can fall and need to be fixed.
if chris had info, you would have it.
he doesnt so you dont.
hard?

Modifié par n0y0ki, 14 janvier 2010 - 10:49 .

[jennamarae]

Twiztid Ninja08 wrote...

what exactly is wrong with this new patch, i have RTO and the update, iv been playing since yesterday and its working perfectly fine. all my class specializations are there and working fine that i know of so can someone tell me whats wrong with the new patch?

When you go to level up, the specializations you've unlocked have the locks back on them. I didn't notice until after I'd played through RTO and then switched characters. When that character leveled up all the specializations were locked. Maybe you got lucky and didn't get it, but a lot of us did.

[Iris562]

Deiser got new armor!

[omgwtfmyspecializations]

okay. i wasnt online when i unlocked the aw specialization. will i have it when (if) this bug is fixed