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Ub3r_ wrote...

if the DLC takes under an hour, people certainly have spent far too much energy venting... 60 pages here, over 200 in another thread, all for an hours content.

get a life



Some of us paid for the DLC already. The points are gone but the product is not at hand. That pisses off some of the users. Others waited this DLC for the whole december, and some of us just want the new title update that is linked to the DLC so they can go on playing with their rangers without the dex bug. Do not underestimate the issue :bandit:

Still, I agree patience is needed in the forum. It has come from talking about the dlc to insulting one another without reason, then the console war started cause some of the geniuses have to bash the others prefered platform for no reason. Seriosly can´t we all just have a drink and come back monday whene there maybe some news to look forward to :wizard:

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AlaskanHusky wrote...

squid5580 wrote...

Damus5 wrote...

squid5580 wrote...

No they definitely don't. The whole "oh programming is so hard" B.S. excuse no longer flies here. Not after they release a patch to fix achievements and break not only the ones that weren't broken but breaks the specializations in the process. Then they don't even have the courtesy to post it in the 360 tech support boards? Nice customer service there Bioware. Hope you are enjoying my money more than I could have you know BUYING A GAME THAT WORKS!!!!!! ONE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT GAVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT!!!!!


Dude, calm down.  The game as a whole works, im still playing Dragon Age just fine, albeit without the dlc, but oh well, they pulled it down fast so they could minimize the damage.  Im not gonna stop enjoying this game thats, in my opinion, amazing over a dlc that is buggy and they just want to fix said bug and fix any other  problems that may arise.  Or would you rather them to have just left the dlc out there, ruin everyone's games and just not care?


My specializations are gone. My achievements are screwed. I am out $100 bucks for a broken game and you are telling me to CALM DOWN??? Tell you what you either fix my game or refund my money then I will CALM THE HELL DOWN. If not kindly STFU.


Hang in there bro. They will fix it but it may take time.

They are not Bathesda they would not pretend the bug doesn't exist.


Oh I am fully aware this will take time. Poor Scruffy the promoted janitor is going to have to work night and day to get this one fixed while everyone else at the office works on the games they haven't got paid for yet.

And to Bethesda's credit when they did put out an update it didn't take a broken game and break all the stuff that was working.

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the dex issue is a pain in the ass. at first it just made me think this game was way harder than it is when i'm the ****tiest damage dealer in my team due to it.

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Hi there,



I saw the link for the new Return to Ostagar DLC show up on the Dashboard a few days ago and downloaded it. I hadn't got round to playing Dragon Age until now and I just finished playing through it but the Secert Achievement In War, Victory didn't unlock even through I did the requirement for it.



Reading some threads there seems to have been a mix up with releasing the DLC and a title update. When I started the game up I don't think I got a prompt for a title update but I have downloaded and played the DLC.



Anyone have any ideas?



I tried reloading a save right before the section with the achievement and doing that bit again but it still didn't unlock.

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run lil amardilo, this is not a safe place anymore. Save yourself from the evil of this place

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Damus5 wrote...

squid5580 wrote...

Damus5 wrote...

squid5580 wrote...

No they definitely don't. The whole "oh programming is so hard" B.S. excuse no longer flies here. Not after they release a patch to fix achievements and break not only the ones that weren't broken but breaks the specializations in the process. Then they don't even have the courtesy to post it in the 360 tech support boards? Nice customer service there Bioware. Hope you are enjoying my money more than I could have you know BUYING A GAME THAT WORKS!!!!!! ONE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT GAVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT!!!!!


Dude, calm down.  The game as a whole works, im still playing Dragon Age just fine, albeit without the dlc, but oh well, they pulled it down fast so they could minimize the damage.  Im not gonna stop enjoying this game thats, in my opinion, amazing over a dlc that is buggy and they just want to fix said bug and fix any other  problems that may arise.  Or would you rather them to have just left the dlc out there, ruin everyone's games and just not care?


My specializations are gone. My achievements are screwed. I am out $100 bucks for a broken game and you are telling me to CALM DOWN??? Tell you what you either fix my game or refund my money then I will CALM THE HELL DOWN. If not kindly STFU.


Specializations are there to make the game easier for how you want to play the game, i went the whole game without any of specializations assigned to my character just to see if I could do it and win, AND I DID!!!  Besides, someone posted earlier how to fix the specializations problem.  If you werent so pig headed, youd go back a page or two to look for it.  Now calm the F&*# down.

As for the achievements thing, THEY ARE FIXING IT


No it doesn't work I have already cleared my cache, loaded a save with all the specs and came up with nothing. And I really don't give 2 flying ****'s how you played your game. I have suffered with a broken stat for 90 hours already. Now they broke another part of the game. And the achievements that aren't unlocking for me aren't the DLC ones. I just unlocked the last romance  I needed so now I have all 4 romance achievements but not the 5th one. I bought a game here. I did not buy into a beta test did I?  I am not being paid as a tester. I bought a specific product am I being unreasonable in asking that it works properly? Just because you like taking it dry doesn't mean we all do. The least they could have done was offered dinner first. Perhaps whispered thier name in my ear.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Hello Dragon Age fans

This morning a title update on the Xbox 360 for Dragon Age: Origins was made available in preparation for the release of Return to Ostagar. This title update introduced a previously undetected issue that causes specialization classes to not work correctly in Dragon Age: Origins. We are removing Return to Ostagar from Xbox Live until the issue is resolved and are recommending that you do not download the title update.  If you have already performed the update, we apologize for this and are working hard to ensure a fix is available as soon as possible.

We will provide more information to you when it is available.



:devil:




DUDE, that is WHACK!

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Ham Salad 360 wrote...

Good news! If you clear the cache on the 360, any specializations you unlock will remain unlocked. This is because Microsoft has removed the title update from LIVE. The catch is you have to unlock them again.

To clear your Xbox 360 cache:

- On the Dashboard, go to System Settings
- Select Memory
- Highlight your storage device and press Y for Device Options
- Select Clear Cache (if you don't have that option, press X, X, LB, RB, X, X)
- Say Yes when asked if you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox

This clears all title updates from your system. It will not delete your saves or DLC.

If you have old saves, load them back up and unlock those hard-to-get specializations, like Champion or Blood Mage or Arcane Warrior by replaying those sections. If you don't have any old saves, well, at least anything new you unlock will stay that way.


NeoCloud61 wrote...  Not so.   All of my specializations were unlocked again after I deleted the cache.  I didn't have to re-unlock them.  I did however have to load my game, exit to dashboard and load again. 


Thank u guys! This in fact did work for me. The only thing is all my specialization didn't come back intill i at least reunlocked one. Then i restarted my game and they were all back unlocked. So again thank u forum people.

Modifié par godlike13, 15 janvier 2010 - 09:01 .


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So, those of us using the PC are still out in lala land. Lets see, there is NO PC certification, therefore the PC version should not only be ready, but should of and could of been delved out back in Dec for the 2009 Hoilday Season.

So how about it BioWare, relaes the PC version, PLEASE, Pretty PLEASE with a cherry on top!

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So what exactly is the problem? Mine seems to be working fine, I got the achievement right away and I seem to still have my specs...

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im sorry, im done, im gonna go to sleep and rest for my class tomorrow and stop talking to an angry lil despot who cant get over a GAME. yes it cost you over $100, but oh well. GET OVER IT. Its not a waste of money until you throw the game away; and if you got a problem with having to deal with this and having to deal with all these bugs, email the ppl who are making the game so maybe, just maybe, they can work out a deal with you, who knows, you might just get paid for all your whining and beta testing a dlc.

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KCFender wrote...

MprezdNZ wrote...

KCFender wrote...

MprezdNZ wrote...

"I don't blame him solely. Well... maybe I do. But that's because it was his name on the post that told me it was safe to assume that RtO would be available in a matter of hours. Sucks to be the spokesperson, but most spokespersons understand the levity of their job and take precautions, rather than throwing out information into the wind that could result in people feeling ripped-of"

This statement pretty much points the finger at him. And basically says he just kinda felt like telling us something so just threw it out there without actually being told that it was ok to give us the info. 

Douche. At least if you are going to try and backtrack on what you said make some effort to get rid of your earlier posts. 


Read that statement of mine that I quoted. The statement points the finger at him for what? What am I accusing Chris of? For making a post that he did, in fact, make?
Troll somebody else please. I haven't blamed Chris for anything that he isn't ABSOLUTELY guilty of.
Not in any of my posts, all of which I stand by, and all of which you've taken way too seriously and yet, still don't seen to comprehend.

Chris made a post on the 13th that directly resulted in me placing trust in a product that turned out to be a bust. Is it his fault solely? No, afterall he didn't make the product. BUT: Do I want him to address the problems? Yes.

:wizard:
^^^ That's for you. My way of saying goodbye. And I like how you make double posts to censor your words only to then spout out more profanities. You seem like you're very level-headed indeed. :?


Yes so you are blaming him directly for a post he would have been told was ok to put out. I am sure he isn't all powerful over what does and does not happen in DA. Someone would have realised that MS leaked the update and the DLC and alarm bells would have been going off that PC users were going to be even more annoyed. 

At that point he obviously decided without talking to anyone that it would be fine to say pc users could have the dlc as well :blink:

Your original post and even your 2nd post make no reference to Bioware being to blame. You blame Chris. Which I keep saying is idiotic - because, funnily enough, it is. The majority of his statements would be reviewed by others before being posted, and he would be told what he can and cannot say. 

it wasn't until after I had a go at you that you started saying that you simply expected him to address the problems. Perhaps he is in his boss' ear every five minutes about the general whinging. Perhaps his boss told him to **** off because he was getting on his boss' nerves.

If they can't give us some kind of worthwhile update that they have made progress on the fix what is the point of him sending us updates every hour like most of you seem to want. Have they acknowledged the problem? Yes they have. DO they have a fix? Obviously not. What more can he do? Keep popping up every hour and saying, "We are working on it. We are at line 67 of the 32 million lines of code" perhaps?

I am level headed. However,  when it comes to people like you blaming a person for the information he was given authority to release; which turned out to be wrong - then I get annoyed. And oooh..profanities. Wash your eyes out with soap if you need to. 

I never said he didn't make the post. But is it fair to lay the blame for that post at his feet, as an employee of Bioware? I think not. All you really need to do is really be specific about where you are pointing the blame because in your posts you cannot decide whether it his fault or Biowares. 


My, what a Krafty post.
I don't mind your profanities, and again, you fail to comprehend written words because I never said I did. I just find it funny that you make double posts to censor some words only to then make another post where you blurb out further mindless insults.
I skimmed your post and that part about "washing my eyes with soap" stuck out as funny, in an unintentional sort of way. And I never said Chris was solely to blame, only that his post caused me to purchase BioWare points under false pretense. Show me the post where I blame Chris solely for BioWare's delays and miscommunications or we can just stop this already. I do think he could have shown more caution in announcing, for the THIRD time, a release time that turns out to be false. I don't think his BOSS forced him to post that. Do you really think that? If not, don't you think Chris deserves SOME of the blame?

As for your last sentence: Hilarious. You say I should specify where I lay my blame, but I'm sure wherever I specify you'll then tell me I'm being too assuming. I'm not specifying my blame, you just really want to think I am so you can argue and "have a go" at me, as you put it. I haven't "changed my tune" at all, either. You've irritated me at most - and congratulations on that I suppose - but I don't see what else it is you've proven except to constantly tell me that I'm being horribly unfair to the resident BioWare spokesperson of this thread.

Why am I responding to you? At first I thought you were simply trolling, and now you're coming off as having delusions of grandeur to which I'm only justifying with these responses.

With all that said, I do think Chris sucks at being a representative of BioWare. Am I cruel for that? Am I like that guy who yells and throws a fit because the pizza-man was late for delivery? I'm such a meany, right? How dare I want BioWare representatives to not post erroneous information that ends up making me spend money on something that doesn't exist. How dare I use the name of the individual who acted as BioWare's representative in making that post. Is that the idea? Is that your point?

I hate to say it, but - what's the expression you used? Oh yeah: Get a clue. Chris is hardly a poor victim here. If you genuinely feel sorry for Chris because of people like me, than there are billions of people in the world who would like to have lived your all-too-comfortable life.


See, i'm quite enjoying this. Gives me something to do. I went back and re-read your first post. Fair enough you were wanting Chris, as the Bioware rep on this forum, to tell us that they were sorry what what he/they did (which indicates to me that you were meaning for him to take ownership on behalf of Bioware which is, imo, a good thing for someone to do to a degree) and to make amends; not by giving us money but by giving money to Haiti which is a noble cause. And I agreed with you that it would be a good thing even though I know, as you do, that the likelihood of that happening is almost lower than the temperature in Whitehorse at the moment (FYI it is around -20 degrees celsius) 

I will just also mention I didn't mean to double post. It was supposed to be a simple edit of my original post, and there was supposed to be a smiley face indicating that I knew I was being slightly hypocritical by apologising for profanities while pretty much posting more. 

However, this "I don't blame him solely. Well... maybe I do. But that's because it was his name on the post that told me it was safe to assume that RtO would be available in a matter of hours. Sucks to be the spokesperson, but most spokespersons understand the levity of their job and take precautions, rather than throwing out information into the wind that could result in people feeling ripped-off" still says to me that you do blame him. You are basically saying that he just decided "I am going to promise this dlc" without discussing it with anyone. And I am sure if the 360 didn't suddenly start developing problems we probably would have gotten it. The issue on whether or not they should have seen the bug before release is a totally different argument. 

In hindsight, I am sure Bioware wishes they were more cautious in promising us the dlc. But at the time it would have been a shock to firstly find out that MS had given it to 360 users, and an even bigger shock to realise that PC users would actually take to the streets and start killing because 360 users got the update and they didn't. Given Bioware's history with the pc, and that pc gamers - imo - are actually the worst of the customers (consolers are worse when it comes to some things but on rights/entitlements I think pc gamers are the worst) they could have expected people to literally take to the streets and start killing/maiming others for being left out.

Instead most are now sitting back laughing at MS and 360 users for getting screwed. 

I just think your rage should be at Bioware. I realise Chris is the "face" of Bioware on the forums, and I don't mind if your posts are addressed to him; but I simply don't agree that you should be blaming him (which I understand you don't believe you are - but I read your posts as blaming him).

So yeah, we can probably let this go unless you feel like continuing it. I'm not implying Chris is totally innocent; but at the end of the day I firmly believe he would be given parameters on what he can and cannot say, and if you are personally blaming him then you are off base. 

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Selej wrote...

So what exactly is the problem? Mine seems to be working fine, I got the achievement right away and I seem to still have my specs...


my understanding (and forgive me as I am pc user) is that when you get to level 7 and/or 14 and you can allocate a spec point it will lock all your previously unlocked specs. if all your characters already have their 2 specs then you shouldn't have a problem. 

There do seem to be some suffering worse than others though. 

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RtO is only about 1hr long why is everyone so worked up over it??

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Cobra842 wrote...

RtO is only about 1hr long why is everyone so worked up over it??


For me I was just pissed about the specializations thing.

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MprezdNZ wrote...


See, i'm quite enjoying this. Gives me something to do. I went back and re-read your first post. Fair enough you were wanting Chris, as the Bioware rep on this forum, to tell us that they were sorry what what he/they did (which indicates to me that you were meaning for him to take ownership on behalf of Bioware which is, imo, a good thing for someone to do to a degree) and to make amends; not by giving us money but by giving money to Haiti which is a noble cause. And I agreed with you that it would be a good thing even though I know, as you do, that the likelihood of that happening is almost lower than the temperature in Whitehorse at the moment (FYI it is around -20 degrees celsius) 

I will just also mention I didn't mean to double post. It was supposed to be a simple edit of my original post, and there was supposed to be a smiley face indicating that I knew I was being slightly hypocritical by apologising for profanities while pretty much posting more. 

However, this "I don't blame him solely. Well... maybe I do. But that's because it was his name on the post that told me it was safe to assume that RtO would be available in a matter of hours. Sucks to be the spokesperson, but most spokespersons understand the levity of their job and take precautions, rather than throwing out information into the wind that could result in people feeling ripped-off" still says to me that you do blame him. You are basically saying that he just decided "I am going to promise this dlc" without discussing it with anyone. And I am sure if the 360 didn't suddenly start developing problems we probably would have gotten it. The issue on whether or not they should have seen the bug before release is a totally different argument. 

In hindsight, I am sure Bioware wishes they were more cautious in promising us the dlc. But at the time it would have been a shock to firstly find out that MS had given it to 360 users, and an even bigger shock to realise that PC users would actually take to the streets and start killing because 360 users got the update and they didn't. Given Bioware's history with the pc, and that pc gamers - imo - are actually the worst of the customers (consolers are worse when it comes to some things but on rights/entitlements I think pc gamers are the worst) they could have expected people to literally take to the streets and start killing/maiming others for being left out.

Instead most are now sitting back laughing at MS and 360 users for getting screwed. 

I just think your rage should be at Bioware. I realise Chris is the "face" of Bioware on the forums, and I don't mind if your posts are addressed to him; but I simply don't agree that you should be blaming him (which I understand you don't believe you are - but I read your posts as blaming him).

So yeah, we can probably let this go unless you feel like continuing it. I'm not implying Chris is totally innocent; but at the end of the day I firmly believe he would be given parameters on what he can and cannot say, and if you are personally blaming him then you are off base. 


You didn't insult me. I... don't know what to say. I suppose you have a point: it would be rash and crazy for me to hold personal animosity towards any BioWare employee. If I suggested that I do, please believe I was kidding. I wonder if Chris is best for his job at communicating with customers (which I don't believe is his primary role at BioWare) but aside from that I'm not making any judgments towards any individuals.

Including you, and your civil ways. Good night.

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Soooooooo.....when will we know that it's safe to purchase for XBOX?

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Poor Chris. I feel for Chris. It's not easy being Chris, i imagine. Worry not Chris, there are people out there who doesn't care about any of this: they still love you!

*pats*


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I will say I enjoyed RtO.

However, I did NOT enjoy it enough to not have a real patch nor to have all my specializations relock. I'd unlocked them all and am on my final playthrough until the expansion and I would really like this resolved soon. I miss my specializations!

Sten is laughing at my other characters, telling them that he has been without a specialization the whole time! ;)

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weyrleader wrote...

Soooooooo.....when will we know that it's safe to purchase for XBOX?


When it is released again. You can no longer purchase it.

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Damus5 wrote...

im sorry, im done, im gonna go to sleep and rest for my class tomorrow and stop talking to an angry lil despot who cant get over a GAME. yes it cost you over $100, but oh well. GET OVER IT. Its not a waste of money until you throw the game away; and if you got a problem with having to deal with this and having to deal with all these bugs, email the ppl who are making the game so maybe, just maybe, they can work out a deal with you, who knows, you might just get paid for all your whining and beta testing a dlc.


I'm sorry our whining has not achieved as much as your post did. DOn't worry we've taken notes based on your posting and will improve next time.

Just like Bioware has been improving their DLC release process.

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Damus5 wrote...

im sorry, im done, im gonna go to sleep and rest for my class tomorrow and stop talking to an angry lil despot who cant get over a GAME. yes it cost you over $100, but oh well. GET OVER IT. Its not a waste of money until you throw the game away; and if you got a problem with having to deal with this and having to deal with all these bugs, email the ppl who are making the game so maybe, just maybe, they can work out a deal with you, who knows, you might just get paid for all your whining and beta testing a dlc.


I'm sorry our whining has not achieved as much as your post did. DOn't worry we've taken notes based on your posting and will improve next time.

Just like Bioware has been improving their DLC release process.

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Cobra842 wrote...

RtO is only about 1hr long why is everyone so worked up over it??


1. the promise we would get it. And it really was promised this time. 
2. any 360 user who now not only has a dex bug (from day 1) but now also is having their specs locked and some are reporting an achievement not being given. 

1st one, while extremely disappointing, isn't really huge. the 2nd, for 360 users, is. 

plus, the realisation for pc owners that there seems to be no real reason why we can't have the dlc

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Cobra842 wrote...

RtO is only about 1hr long why is everyone so worked up over it??


Bioware said "This Holiday Season"

Then pretended nothing happened till past christmas.

Then they said oh sorry we had to add stuff to make it more awesome, added achievement. And plus it'll be $4 instead of $5 to reflect it's length.

Then they said it will be out on January 5th

Then they said okay it's still $5 we take back what we said.

Then on January 4th they said "Hey it's not going to be out will update you! hehe!"

Then after almost complete radio silence till the xbox premature release, they said okay PC people it will be out today.

Then they deleted the thread that said anything about a PC release.

Then they yanked the Xbox release cause it was crashing left right and centre (like their reputation)

The good news is that it still says "This holiday season" on the dlc page. Woohoo!

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[quote]KCFender wrote...

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You didn't insult me. I... don't know what to say. I suppose you have a point: it would be rash and crazy for me to hold personal animosity towards any BioWare employee. If I suggested that I do, please believe I was kidding. I wonder if Chris is best for his job at communicating with customers (which I don't believe is his primary role at BioWare) but aside from that I'm not making any judgments towards any individuals.

Including you, and your civil ways. Good night.

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Fair enough. As you say you weren't really blaming him, which is what I first thought which is why I was inflammatory. Having settled down I see that it was as much the way I was reading what you wrote, as opposed to what you were saying. 

I don't think anyone disagrees that Bioware could have handled this better in terms of being a bit more open with us. I am sure in a perfect world they could come out and blame the consoles for pc users not getting the dlc (even though they have said all along the consoles wouldn't interfere with the pc version); but we don't live in a perfect world. 

As they say, all's well that ends well. Have a good one