Modifié par Auridesion, 15 janvier 2010 - 10:48 .
MprezdNZ wrote...
360_Captain_MEL wrote...
lolSithLordExarKun wrote...
I wouldn't hold my breath if i were you.
You see this whole RTO delay issue has been a **** storm right from the start, its like anticipating the opening of a christmas present your dad bought for you, you open it only to find theres nothing inside and before you can react, someone kicks you in the balls and you writhe in pain on the floor when your dad just stands there like a statue.
I just had one of those right-as-you're-going-to-sleep brilliant ideas. At least I think it is. Alternatively, it may only sound like a great idea because I had it at 2:30 am. Anyway here it is.
A lot of people have been going on about thinking Bioware should offer some sort of "compensation" for this whole fubar operation. Personally, I love the idea, but s*** ain't gonna happen. We live in a capitalistic society, chances of them giving out the DLC for free or paying you back are not high. My idea is this: since the game update only caused a glitch on the 360, why not write up a new Achievement (no, I have no idea if that's complicated). Have the fix, when it comes out, detect if you had the glitchy game update when it overwrites. If you did gain an exclusive achievement, "Achievement Unlocked, Weathering the Storm - 5G: Survived the Return to Ostagar game update fiasco"
It'd be cool, 360 users all (or almost all) have a hard-on for Achievements, this would give those of us who had to deal with this whole nasty situation recognition for our grief, and it would give us an Achievement our friends couldn't unlock, so we'd be part of an elite group. Total PR turnaround, right there,
If I remember correctly, giving you guys achievements was one of the reasons it got delayed in the first place. So no. I don't want them adding in more achievements for 360 users. As a pc user, we all COULD have obtained RtO through illegal means, but we are trying to support them. If they added another delay just to add in yet another achievement for console users (in this case 360) I wouldn't be surprised if they had pc users in their droves turning to the illegal download.
Rightly or wrongly, as far as pc gamers are concerned Bioware wouldn't be where they were today without the pc fanbase. So they expect that Bioware should be catering to them first and foremost; not the consoles. Then again, it depends where Bioware sees their long term profit coming from
Thank you for explaining that. You = AwesomeDecho the Dolphin wrote...
A title update is a patch, and RTO was released on the 360 by mistake, but was later removed, along with the patch, as they break elements of the game, ie.specializations.
Modifié par Auridesion, 15 janvier 2010 - 11:10 .
Itachou wrote...
Return to Ostagar expected on PC during the day on January 13
Despite the good intention of Chris Priestly, January 15, still nothing.
It's unworthy of Bioware, I follow since a long time, especially the version that goes out will be exactly the same as January 5.
Next time, don't give a date and be sure of your choice, because such policies destroy your good image. Good day.
squid5580 wrote...
As much as I love achievements (and I really do) I agree with you. Delaying it for 1 ridiculously easy achievement was just plain stupid.
Although you are wrong in your bottom paragraph. If Bioware wants to cater to one platform then they should make it for that 1 platform. If they make it multi we deserve the same treatment as everyone else. We are paying the same amount as you (for less I might add) and for them to give special treatment to one platform is risking offending customers down the line.
kraidy1117 wrote...
The thing that gets me mad is even if
you clear your cache, you can unlock them but if you turn off the
system they relock. You have to plat offline so they do not relock. I
just hope this gets fixed because this breaks the game badly. Oh well I
will just play KOTOR anf Jade Empire while I wait for DAO.
Modifié par BardKesnit, 15 janvier 2010 - 12:12 .
squid5580 wrote...
MprezdNZ wrote...
360_Captain_MEL wrote...
lolSithLordExarKun wrote...
I wouldn't hold my breath if i were you.
You see this whole RTO delay issue has been a **** storm right from the start, its like anticipating the opening of a christmas present your dad bought for you, you open it only to find theres nothing inside and before you can react, someone kicks you in the balls and you writhe in pain on the floor when your dad just stands there like a statue.
I just had one of those right-as-you're-going-to-sleep brilliant ideas. At least I think it is. Alternatively, it may only sound like a great idea because I had it at 2:30 am. Anyway here it is.
A lot of people have been going on about thinking Bioware should offer some sort of "compensation" for this whole fubar operation. Personally, I love the idea, but s*** ain't gonna happen. We live in a capitalistic society, chances of them giving out the DLC for free or paying you back are not high. My idea is this: since the game update only caused a glitch on the 360, why not write up a new Achievement (no, I have no idea if that's complicated). Have the fix, when it comes out, detect if you had the glitchy game update when it overwrites. If you did gain an exclusive achievement, "Achievement Unlocked, Weathering the Storm - 5G: Survived the Return to Ostagar game update fiasco"
It'd be cool, 360 users all (or almost all) have a hard-on for Achievements, this would give those of us who had to deal with this whole nasty situation recognition for our grief, and it would give us an Achievement our friends couldn't unlock, so we'd be part of an elite group. Total PR turnaround, right there,
If I remember correctly, giving you guys achievements was one of the reasons it got delayed in the first place. So no. I don't want them adding in more achievements for 360 users. As a pc user, we all COULD have obtained RtO through illegal means, but we are trying to support them. If they added another delay just to add in yet another achievement for console users (in this case 360) I wouldn't be surprised if they had pc users in their droves turning to the illegal download.
Rightly or wrongly, as far as pc gamers are concerned Bioware wouldn't be where they were today without the pc fanbase. So they expect that Bioware should be catering to them first and foremost; not the consoles. Then again, it depends where Bioware sees their long term profit coming from
As much as I love achievements (and I really do) I agree with you. Delaying it for 1 ridiculously easy achievement was just plain stupid.
Although you are wrong in your bottom paragraph. If Bioware wants to cater to one platform then they should make it for that 1 platform. If they make it multi we deserve the same treatment as everyone else. We are paying the same amount as you (for less I might add) and for them to give special treatment to one platform is risking offending customers down the line.
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
He's not wrong at all. Sitting on the content for the PC sku, you as a developer has said on 3 occasions now will be available xx date just due to a 360 achievement/specialization bug isn't very good customer service to begin with.
I'm absolutely amazed how many people are willing to eat up a non informative update
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
Next time Bioware, don't give dates at all if you don't plan on releasing content, if it takes this long to debug an hours worth of content either get more QA on board or communicate the issue better between staff to get the issues fixed in a more timely manner and in turn better communication channels can help inform the community better and quell the arguements/flames. I can only imagine how many delays will be in store for The Awakening at the rate RTO is going.
squid5580 wrote...
MprezdNZ wrote...
360_Captain_MEL wrote...
lolSithLordExarKun wrote...
I wouldn't hold my breath if i were you.
You see this whole RTO delay issue has been a **** storm right from the start, its like anticipating the opening of a christmas present your dad bought for you, you open it only to find theres nothing inside and before you can react, someone kicks you in the balls and you writhe in pain on the floor when your dad just stands there like a statue.
I just had one of those right-as-you're-going-to-sleep brilliant ideas. At least I think it is. Alternatively, it may only sound like a great idea because I had it at 2:30 am. Anyway here it is.
A lot of people have been going on about thinking Bioware should offer some sort of "compensation" for this whole fubar operation. Personally, I love the idea, but s*** ain't gonna happen. We live in a capitalistic society, chances of them giving out the DLC for free or paying you back are not high. My idea is this: since the game update only caused a glitch on the 360, why not write up a new Achievement (no, I have no idea if that's complicated). Have the fix, when it comes out, detect if you had the glitchy game update when it overwrites. If you did gain an exclusive achievement, "Achievement Unlocked, Weathering the Storm - 5G: Survived the Return to Ostagar game update fiasco"
It'd be cool, 360 users all (or almost all) have a hard-on for Achievements, this would give those of us who had to deal with this whole nasty situation recognition for our grief, and it would give us an Achievement our friends couldn't unlock, so we'd be part of an elite group. Total PR turnaround, right there,
If I remember correctly, giving you guys achievements was one of the reasons it got delayed in the first place. So no. I don't want them adding in more achievements for 360 users. As a pc user, we all COULD have obtained RtO through illegal means, but we are trying to support them. If they added another delay just to add in yet another achievement for console users (in this case 360) I wouldn't be surprised if they had pc users in their droves turning to the illegal download.
Rightly or wrongly, as far as pc gamers are concerned Bioware wouldn't be where they were today without the pc fanbase. So they expect that Bioware should be catering to them first and foremost; not the consoles. Then again, it depends where Bioware sees their long term profit coming from
As much as I love achievements (and I really do) I agree with you. Delaying it for 1 ridiculously easy achievement was just plain stupid.
Although you are wrong in your bottom paragraph. If Bioware wants to cater to one platform then they should make it for that 1 platform. If they make it multi we deserve the same treatment as everyone else. We are paying the same amount as you (for less I might add) and for them to give special treatment to one platform is risking offending customers down the line.
BardKesnit wrote...
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
He's not wrong at all. Sitting on the content for the PC sku, you as a developer has said on 3 occasions now will be available xx date just due to a 360 achievement/specialization bug isn't very good customer service to begin with.
So if you downloaded RTO (or any future update) and it completely glitched every one of your saves, you would have no problem with BW saying "Oh, never mind. We'll fix your problem once we do a minor update for the console players. After all, they've been waiting patiently for this minor thing."I'm absolutely amazed how many people are willing to eat up a non informative update
Do you want Chris to pull some random, possibly wrong answer out of his rear? Do you really think the PR people at BW are so stupid as to think "We know exactly what the problem is, and we know exactly when it will be fixed. But we're not going to tell, since we like watching people have tantrums in the forums." You are demanding answers he probably doesn't have.
Itachou wrote...
Next time, don't give a date and be sure of your choice, because such policies destroy your good image. Good day.
Modifié par solfox, 15 janvier 2010 - 12:27 .
solfox wrote...
Itachou wrote...
Next time, don't give a date and be sure of your choice, because such policies destroy your good image. Good day.
Especially since it was mentioned on January 5th that they would not give another date until they were 100% sure that it is ready to be released.
So "later today" on January 13th looked pretty much like a date to me, but maybe there are subtle differences that we people wo do not speak english as our native tongue do not understand...
BardKesnit wrote...
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
He's not wrong at all. Sitting on the content for the PC sku, you as a developer has said on 3 occasions now will be available xx date just due to a 360 achievement/specialization bug isn't very good customer service to begin with.
So if you downloaded RTO (or any future update) and it completely glitched every one of your saves, you would have no problem with BW saying "Oh, never mind. We'll fix your problem once we do a minor update for the console players. After all, they've been waiting patiently for this minor thing."I'm absolutely amazed how many people are willing to eat up a non informative update
Do you want Chris to pull some random, possibly wrong answer out of his rear? Do you really think the PR people at BW are so stupid as to think "We know exactly what the problem is, and we know exactly when it will be fixed. But we're not going to tell, since we like watching people have tantrums in the forums." You are demanding answers he probably doesn't have.
solfox wrote...
Itachou wrote...
Next time, don't give a date and be sure of your choice, because such policies destroy your good image. Good day.
Especially since it was mentioned on January 5th that they would not give another date until they were 100% sure that it is ready to be released.
So "later today" on January 13th looked pretty much like a date to me, but maybe there are subtle differences that we people wo do not speak english as our native tongue do not understand...
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