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[Wissenschaft]

This is a real RPG. Not like Mass Effect where you can run arond blasting things no problem. You need to constantly keep track of your whole party each battle. Never get flanked, you'll die fast. Make use of your mages area of effect spells, or traps from rogues to weaken your enemies. Its the only way to take on large numbers of enemies. spells that freeze or stun or paralyse groups are best.

This game is unforgiving to those who are not patient enough to mirco every battle. If you don't like mirco then play on easy. Its what its there for.


I swear, this game is a dream come true for BG2 fans that thought that game was too easy. 

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 05 novembre 2009 - 06:54 .

[Wissenschaft]

This game is a dream come true for those that though BG2 was too easy.

[CodeKyuubi]

Aw man I'm getting my ass kicked by Bandits. They just LOVE outnumbering me 3 to 1 and have way too many ranged dudes for me to handle on Hard lol. And melee Bandits have a ridiculous attack speed of like 2 hits a second.

[Krenmu]

The main thing..I don't really follow what everyone else says most of the time..I use my main char to go after the high value targets..Mages, or the more powerful creatures..if That strategy causes a wipe..I nuke down the little guys..which goes pretty fast because at that point I'm swapping between all chars on pause and using all the skills I can get ahold of. But do not forget the most important thing...Your party members gear..Keep it up to date, As it stands my party consists of Shale, Morrigan, Myself, and Alistair. Alistair gets all my old armor..which right now has him wearing the wardens commander armor.

[CodeKyuubi]

Alistair does me no good with his shield. The moment I try to kill those pesky Bandit archers, they just stun away since they have like 8 stuns to waste.

[th3warr1or]

Omg yes. Sacred Ashes is IMPOSSIBLE on Normal to me.. Kolgrim rapes me before we even get him down to half health, and the High Dragon.. lets just say it didn't go too well on EASY either.



High Dragon on Easy is about 3x as hard as Kolgrim on Normal.

[CodeKyuubi]

I absolutely refuse to lower my difficulty. Micromanaging only helps me stay alive longer. My problem is that I don't have enough health pots to survive and even if I try to use health pots I get stunned mid-use and the pot disappears but I get no HP. Sigh.

[Pinface]

Even on easy and trying to micromanage I'm getting mauled in this tower. Maybe I built my mage terribly already.

[Wissenschaft]

I quick save before each battle and reload to try to beat battles with few if not potions. Thats hard for you. Also, you really got to use your talents, especally the persistent ones which should always be on. Like the perfect strike of warriors of the various ones in each weapons tree. They make a HUGE difference.



AOE spells and traps, thats the key.

[CodeKyuubi]

I don't have a mage so most AoE spells are out, and I should consider traps. When I try to melee AoE they just stun me during the animation and there goes my cooldown. Same for healing. Really, it's not their numbers, but the quantity of stuns at their disposal, a fire trap protecting them from a melee rush, and the sheer attack speed of the enemies. I'll probably come back later when it's not utterly impossible to win.

That's side quests for you... Do the impossible for a few gold coins.

Modifié par CodeKyuubi, 05 novembre 2009 - 07:27 .

[th3warr1or]

Does anyone know how to "train"? I want to abuse so that I have uber stats, but apparently it doesn't work(forced load) for the 360... So how do I get XP quickly? I need to add to other skills already. Dying too fast.

[Wissenschaft]

CodeKyuubi wrote...

I don't have a mage so most AoE spells are out, and I should consider traps. When I try to melee AoE they just stun me during the animation and there goes my cooldown. Same for healing. Really, it's not their numbers, but the quantity of stuns at their disposal, a fire trap protecting them from a melee rush, and the sheer attack speed of the enemies. I'll probably come back later when it's not utterly impossible to win.

That's side quests for you... Do the impossible for a few gold coins.

You don't have a mage or rogue/traps. Yeah, thats a VERY bad idea as you have found out the hard way.

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 05 novembre 2009 - 07:47 .

[Ankitol]

i'm at Denerim playing hard mode and I love this difficulty. I don't understand why people want to be coddled and not be labelled a bad player, when in fact they really are. If this game is too hard for you, put it on easy mode. If you can't beat it on any other difficulty then that's your own problem and no one else. This game (on PC) takes an enormous amount of strategy and micromanagement (at least on Hard for me) to get through.



I mean playing it on easy just means you're not so good at the game. Is that too hard to accept?



TLDR: Don't feel bad if you have to put it on easy mode, better to enjoy and play than be asshumped the entire game and get frustrated.

[th3warr1or]

Umm.. I wouldn't mind a challenge on PC.. but on console, any difficulty above Normal IS more difficult. Because we don't get the enemies at a lot at a time, we get less, but they're stronger.. so AoE attacks are harder, they do more damage, have more HP etc..



Overall.. console normal is harder than PC normal, and I dare say it's as hard as Hard on PC.

[Ankitol]

... It's been said many times by developers that the console version is easier than the PC version. PC easy is the same as console normal. Nice try though.

[Krenmu]

Oh..you actually fought the dragon?..I'll have to do that my next playthrough...oh well no harm done.

[Tiberius Antonius Agrippa]

I choose to play the game on easy, do I don't get frustrated and I can enjoy the story and dialogs. I don't care if that means I'm a "bad player", I'd rather be one and enjoy the game than be a good player and miss half of it.

[th3warr1or]

Um, how is the console 'easier' than the PC version when AoE spells work WAY better in PC?

[Ankitol]

Tiberius Antonius Agrippa wrote...

I choose to play the game on easy, do I don't get frustrated and I can enjoy the story and dialogs. I don't care if that means I'm a "bad player", I'd rather be one and enjoy the game than be a good player and miss half of it.

my sentiments exactly. I mean it IS a single player game, you should enjoy it the way you want to. And if you can't get past certain parts on easy mode.. i'd consider reading up on strategies or moving on

[BackwardCompatibility]

I've been having a lot of difficulty myself... I love tactical games and I may not be a genius, but I don't like strategy for any reason: I'm good. At most lazy for not benefiting from all of the items I found. I had only Alister and Morrigan and I didn't bother to gain solid experience or full understanding of my inventory before venturing further. I thought that was going to be superficial details at easy mode, yet I've had a lot of difficulty beating monsters from the moment I left the Ukari Woods. And guess what? Those I've had the most difficulty with weren't even bosses.



Now I find myself lucky to have managed to go through the whole quest in the mountains. Oghren was my savior. Then, I believe I would have never made it if I would have put the difficulty level to normal. Well, maybe... but, hum, no.

[Ankitol]

That makes a lot of sense actually, the game started to get easier as I picked up the right party members. It looks to be like party compatability is really important in this game. Right now I'm pretty much unstoppable and I have my companions to thank for that.

[th3warr1or]

Where do you find Oghren lol.

[Seagloom]

So far I'm not finding this game much harder than Baldur's Gate 2 was on Core difficulty. I decided to start on Hard mode off the bat and the only battle I found difficult so far was the ogre in the Tower of Ishal. I *barely* scraped by that one because of my character's lack of damaging magic and a party of three warriors backing her up. Anyone in this thread that brought up party composition is right on the money. Lopsided parties with too many representatives of one class have a harder time, even if they can theoretically finish encounters.

In other battles I found focusing on problem targets individually to be key. I also benefited tremendously from Horror, Sleep, and Paralysis. Usually I immobolize the most dangerous target with Horror or Paralysis while my crew mops up the rest. If you start off with Sleep it's possible to take out, or very nearly kill one target with Horror. With Morrigan in the group you can really sow discord this way. Therefore I'm a strong advocate of picking up one of the Weakness and/or Disorient line from Entropy, or at least the Mind Blast line of spells in Spirit. Grease and Glyph of Paralysis aren't too shabby either, and as someone else mentioned, Cold of Cone is spiffy. Stunning and slowing enemies makes your warriors' lives much easier.

For that reason any combat talents with similar effects are also handy.

You also want either a dedicated healer or a ton of poultices/potions. No matter how good your strategy is, talents and spells will occasionally be resisted, or a party member will get zapped by magic they have poor chances of avoiding. Losing even one character reduces your options, and if that character is the designated tank, a considerable chunk of your defense. That they can get up automatically after a fight is meaningless if you lose.

Lastly, I can't emphasize enough the importance of setting up flanks and fiddling with AI. You win battles a lot easier if you take the time to position your party and prepare the AI. Otherwise it tends to do very stoooopid things to ruin your best laid plans. If it's too troublesome you're better off controlling everyone directly all the time, no matter how tedious it is.

Obviously this is all just one player's opinion. Overall, I'd say DA's challenge is "about right" if you're accustomed to these sort of games. Difficult at times, but far from insurmountable.

Modifié par Seagloom, 05 novembre 2009 - 12:08 .

[CodeKyuubi]

Indeed. I technically have 3 warriors, since Shale is considered a Warrior, and 1 mage, ala Morrigan. If anything, I'll probably be switching Alistair out as he's THE squishiest for what his job entails him to do in Hard. I swear, I now realize why so many people rolled a mage xD.

[Wissenschaft]

Eh, I prefer Morrigan as my mage. Shes like Viconia with useful spells.