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*THE GREAT DEBATE* - NO PEACE obtainable between the Geth & Quarians: Who would you choose and Why? (Pic of BioWare Stats Inside)


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S.A.K wrote...

Seriously, the best thing about the destroy ending is the destruction of Geth. That way I can use thier war assets and get rid of them later.:devil:

Thank you Bioware.


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I honestly don't blame the Geth for their actions in the beginning. All they knew about anything was what they learned from the Quarians, their whole world was the Quarians. So to the Geth these people just went crazy and, and are killing them, and Quarians who helped them for no reason at all. I wouldn't have blamed them if they said if we don't kill all of them they're going to kill all of us, which was the Quarians intent.

Then people say the Geth attacked everyone that came into the veil after that. If the only people you ever knew attacked you for no reason at all, I doubt anyone would be trusting of strangers breaching their borders either.

Now helping the Saren was bad by the time the events of ME1 rolled around, but their actions in the very beginning I really can't fault them for.

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Why is it they shot down anyone who tried to enter the Perseus veil but they did not attack sovereign when he arrived?

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Rhayak wrote...

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 killing Geth is like breaking equipment.


Then, killing humans is like shooting at steaks.

Steaks on legs possibly.

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Also, people complain about the Quarians going to war in the middle of a Reaper invasion, which I can see, but the Geth have willingly endangered all organic life in the galaxy by throwing themselves in with the Reapers twice. The first time, when they let the Heretics go off to help Nazara, they probably had full knowledge of what would happen, but did nothing. If your friend told you he was going to blow up a school, wouldn't you try to stop him?

And with the isolationism thing, I can get being paranoid of organics after the Morning War, but they didn't event try to communicate with the outside world.

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The majority of the Quarians are morons sho didnt learned anything from their mistakes. Attack the Geth while the Reapers attack the whole galaxy? They deserve the Darwin Award for this.

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If the quarian fleet can't beat the fully upgraded Geth fleet, then why should I choose the quarians?

The only way for the quarians to beat the Geths is when they are deactivated. And let's not forget about the dumbest quarian ever was in charge of the fleet. Gerrel had the oportunity to retreat several time once Shepard started to help, but he's an idiot who chose suicide war against peace.

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tonnactus wrote...

The majority of the Quarians are morons sho didnt learned anything from their mistakes. Attack the Geth while the Reapers attack the whole galaxy? They deserve the Darwin Award for this.

*facepalm*

Dorn'Hazt: "The civilian fleet doesn't want this war."


Funny how Geth lovers always conveniently forget this quote.

Modifié par Finn the Jakey, 17 mars 2013 - 07:37 .


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Quarians started the first war that got 99% of their population killed and they deem to do it again when they are far fewer number than the first war the almost killed their race, which they had started. If there was no peace option I would let the Quarians pay for their mistake they obviously couldnt learn from the first war they cant win against the Geth why start another one. Not to mention the war they started now is during the time Reapers are Reaping the Galaxy, they pushed the Geth into the Reapers arms.

But I think the worst part is that we didnt find any Quarian sleeper agents because if you think about it would make since for the Reapers to push the Quarians against the Geth and get the Geth to ask for help from them. Reapers are smart so why didnt we find this out, Shepard left the Quarian fleet in ME2 telling them not to start a war. It makes more sense for the Reapers to cause the second Quarian/Geth Conflict than it does for the Quarians to be so stupid to repeat past history, history which they know didnt favor them the first time.

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S.A.K wrote...

Anyone who kills 17 million men, women and childern to save a bunch of toasters (living or not) is a f*cking basterd in my book.<_<


There's a difference betwen killing 17 million people and not saving 17 millions retarded suicides.

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Darwin award? They were A. Fighting a known reaper ally, just like shep spent a good part of the game fighting Cerberus and B. Apparently they where beating the Geth retarded so they were obviously on track to reclaiming Rannoch till the reaper upgraded the Geth. And once the reaper goes down the kicking of asses returns.

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Toasters. Steaks. Hmm. Hard decision.

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Iamjdr wrote...

Darwin award? They were A. Fighting a known reaper ally, just like shep spent a good part of the game fighting Cerberus and B. Apparently they where beating the Geth retarded so they were obviously on track to reclaiming Rannoch till the reaper upgraded the Geth. And once the reaper goes down the kicking of asses returns.

Shepard doesn't actively seek out Cerberus and fights them, until it is necessary. There's a huge difference.

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And the quarians actually take out the first reaper that we fight without a threshermaw just before some people let the Geth kill them, the Geth that were just under that same reapers control and are now uploading reaper upgrades.

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Finn the Jakey wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

The majority of the Quarians are morons sho didnt learned anything from their mistakes. Attack the Geth while the Reapers attack the whole galaxy? They deserve the Darwin Award for this.

*facepalm*

Dorn'Hazt: "The civilian fleet doesn't want this war."


Funny how Geth lovers always conveniently forget this quote.



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Finn the Jakey wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

The majority of the Quarians are morons sho didnt learned anything from their mistakes. Attack the Geth while the Reapers attack the whole galaxy? They deserve the Darwin Award for this.

*facepalm*

Dorn'Hazt: "The civilian fleet doesn't want this war."


Funny how Geth lovers always conveniently forget this quote.

Yes, the decision of the leaders gets blamed on all the Quarians so they must die.

#417
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Karlone123 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

The majority of the Quarians are morons sho didnt learned anything from their mistakes. Attack the Geth while the Reapers attack the whole galaxy? They deserve the Darwin Award for this.

*facepalm*

Dorn'Hazt: "The civilian fleet doesn't want this war."


Funny how Geth lovers always conveniently forget this quote.

Yes, the decision of the leaders gets blamed on all the Quarians so they must die.

....wut?

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Karlone123 wrote...

Yes, the decision of the leaders gets blamed on all the Quarians so they must die.


So, everyone has to die because of a few people???

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Skullheart wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Anyone who kills 17 million men, women and childern to save a bunch of toasters (living or not) is a f*cking basterd in my book.<_<


There's a difference betwen killing 17 million people and not saving 17 millions retarded suicides.

When you encourage the upload and choose not to inform the other side that it's taking place, knowing full well what will happen as a consequence, yes - you are responsible. Given the Geth's history, the Quarians had every reason to believe the Geth would try to wipe them out - if you have the VI with you, a representative of what they were historically up against, the Quarians are absolutely right about this. If you inform them, however, that the Geth are open to a ceasefire for the first time in their entire history, the Quarians, armed with this information, stand down - they value survival over revenge. If you don't, then for all they know another Reaper backup came online, in which case ceasing fire wouldn't have saved them anyway.

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Well since the quarians need a planet to go back to after the war it seems pretty necessary. It's not like they can continue to live on ships after they take them to fight a galactic war. Plus they need to offload there civilians so that they don't lose a huge part of there population with every ship lost. The were plenty justified to attack them at that time because as far as everyone in the MEU knows the reapers are back and last time the Geth were on there side, and that reaper on rannoch didn't get there after the war started...It was already on Rannoch before the quarians even engaged the Geth.

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Geth are stronger, have better ships and units for ground combat.

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The Quarians are a pitiful people. They are dangerously patriotic for a spacefaring civilization, yet there are, of course, many Quarians who wouldn't want to sacrifice themselves for the good of their people, but are forced to by tradition and, more directly, by their leaders.
Whilst the Geth are not really a people as the Quarians are, not yet. The Geth are more about what they may become one day.

If I'd have to decide between them, I would choose the one which has a smaller chance to repopulate. Which I am not entirely sure of whether the Quarians or the Geth have a better chance of survival (as a species) if the other is chosen. I've been thinking about this a lot, and all I can say is I'm happy I don't have to choose.

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GoldFlsh wrote...

Here's a question: Do people -really- pick one or the other based on which one's war assets are bigger at the end? What does that matter, it's hardly a difference, and getting the max war assets you need is so much cake. Just pretend your Shepard is picking one or the other based on military strength if you want to go the pragmatic route I'd wager the geth would bring much more firepower and even better engineering support for the crucible. There's a reason they win once the reaper code is installed.


Without the peace option coming up, that's how I made the decisions with my first 2 characters. My Paragon Shepard rewrote the heretics, so their superior numbers wiped out more Quarian fleets, weaking them. My Renegade detroys the heretics, allowing the Quarians to suffer no casualties to thier fleets.

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G Kevin wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Yes, the decision of the leaders gets blamed on all the Quarians so they must die.


So, everyone has to die because of a few people???


No, that's not what I meant. I was just pointing out that it is wrong to condemn 17 million Quarians to death for the actions of their leaders.:innocent:

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Karlone123 wrote...

No, that's not what I meant. I was just pointing out that it is wrong to condemn 17 million Quarians to death for the actions of their leaders.:innocent:


That makes a lot more sense now.