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[Eckswhyzed]

@remydat

The linked part discusses living on the interior surface of a dyson sphere, not a planet on the inside. My main point in linking that was to show that the effect of the hydrogen ions (i.e. the solar wind) is very low on an unshielded surface on the inside of a sphere. So we can deduce that the effect on a planet with a functioning magetnosphere would be even smaller.


I'm not advocating anything here, I'm just trying to sort out some misconceptions about Dyson spheres.

[remydat]

silverexile17s

No the alternative is not to die.  The alternative is to talk to the the Geth for the 6 months you said existed between ME2 or ME3.  I would rather risk them blowing me up if I came to the PV than I would strapping guns to the place my siblings and kids live.  You have no proof the Quarians tried this before risking their kids so you fall back on well why should they trust the Geth.  The answer is they shouldn't trust the Geth.  They should value their kids lives enough to do everything they can before turning them into enemy combatants or human shields.  You have no answer for that so you resort to calling me prejudice, sociopathic, amoral and cruel.  Why because I want to exhaust all options before I decide war is the only alternative.  Sure dude.  Those types of attacks win arguments, lol.

And Evacuating civilians is not using them as shields.  If the Heavy Fleet attacked while the Civilian Fleet retreated and the Geth fired on the Civilian Fleet you would have a point.  They didn't.  You ranting doesn't trump rules of war agreed by various countries in the Geneva Conventions and the like.

Look go stand in the corner with your finger on your lips and when you can engage in a debate without resorting to emotional outbursts, get back to me.  Right now you are doing a disservice to yourself with these bullsh*t attacks.

Modifié par remydat, 10 avril 2013 - 09:28 .

[remydat]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

@remydat

The linked part discusses living on the interior surface of a dyson sphere, not a planet on the inside. My main point in linking that was to show that the effect of the hydrogen ions (i.e. the solar wind) is very low on an unshielded surface on the inside of a sphere. So we can deduce that the effect on a planet with a functioning magetnosphere would be even smaller.


I'm not advocating anything here, I'm just trying to sort out some misconceptions about Dyson spheres.

Ok but that does not really solve the problem.  Solar Winds degrade a planets magnetic field.  The link you provided states a sphere or planet in my case without a magnetic field will basically be a furnace.  A planet inside Sphere is getting more solar wind because the wind is trapped in the sphere.  Hence the solar wind is more intense and can degrade the magnetic field resulting in an increase in temperature.  This has to happen because the sun has to hit the planet before getting to the sphere.  Futher the link even says that eventually thermodynamics wins.

And yeah I get we are just running our our little thought experiment so no worries.

Even if the civilisation living in the Dyson sphere did its best to store available energy, thermodynamics eventually wins and the sphere begins to radiate away energy until equilibrium is reached/

It should be noted that at 1 AU, the energy flux is around 1.4e3 W/m^2, which calculates as around 395 K, or 122 degrees C if the sphere is a blackbody. This is a bit too hot for an earthlike biosphere (Earth is cooled by its rotation, which effectively halves the energy flux, and its spherical shape, that lowers it further), and a dyson shell need some rather impressive cooling to work.

[Eckswhyzed]

@remydat

You do realise that the link talks about living on the inner surface of the sphere, right? Although the interior surface of the sphere might rise in temperature, I'm not quite convinced that's going to have any effect.

I'm also still not convinced the solar wind has any heating effect seeing as it's just a low density stream of charged particles (mainly hydrogen ions). As for the magnetic field issue, we can all agree that Rannoch isn't in danger of getting its magnetosphere wiped out So if it is inside a dyson sphere that receives very little impact from the solar wind and absorbs the ions, it will just receive the same amount of solar wind as before.

Remember, the solar wind isn't like a normal wind in the sense of circulation. I've also been assuming the Dyson sphere is 100% efficient (no reflectivity).

[CronoDragoon]

Auld Wulf wrote...
If that doesn't make you think, then you're part of the problem.

Part of the problem here is that you haven't even read the posts to which remy is responding. You are talking out of your rear end. How do I know this? Because I am someone with whom remy has been debating, and on many separate posts I have noted the many things the quarians got wrong.

If you want people to take you seriously instead of a clownish troll, then think before you type.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Wow. This is still going on? This forum needs a popcorn emote.

[remydat]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

@remydat

You do realise that the link talks about living on the inner surface of the sphere, right? Although the interior surface of the sphere might rise in temperature, I'm not quite convinced that's going to have any effect.

I'm also still not convinced the solar wind has any heating effect seeing as it's just a low density stream of charged particles (mainly hydrogen ions). As for the magnetic field issue, we can all agree that Rannoch isn't in danger of getting its magnetosphere wiped out So if it is inside a dyson sphere that receives very little impact from the solar wind and absorbs the ions, it will just receive the same amount of solar wind as before.

Remember, the solar wind isn't like a normal wind in the sense of circulation. I've also been assuming the Dyson sphere is 100% efficient (no reflectivity).

Yes I realize that.

Unless you are telling me the Dyson Sphere is designed to absorb the charged particles of the Solar Winds, it will simply bounce off of the Sphere.  If a planet is within the Sphere, it will receive more Solar Winds than it normally would because without the Sphere that Solar Wind bouncing off and remaining within the Sphere would otherwise be dispersed into the vast of space.

So you are increasing the amount of Solar Winds the planet receives because it is bouncing off the sphere.  An increase in the solar winds degrades the magnetic field which in turn would increase the amount of radiation that the planet keeps.  Even if you go from receiving .00001% of raditiaon to .01%, that is a massive increase.  Massive.  Furthermore, as the link says Thermodynamics has to eventually win and the Sphere will eventually give off heat to create equalibrium.  

All I am getting is it is a thought experiment.  I don't see how the origincal concept could ever work without increasing the temperature of the planet.  The same reasons why the link says the Sphere would need a massive cooling system (ie because thermodynamics eventually wins) is the same reason a planet within the sphere would.

[Eckswhyzed]

@remydat

Yes, I suppose so. I still think you're wrong with solar wind idea, but seeing as I don't have anything to back that up (and I don't feel like reading scientific papers on details of the solar wind and planetary magnetospheres) I might as well drop the subject

[Argolas]

Legion: "We regret the deaths of the Creators, but we see no alternative."

Works the other way around just as well, bro.

The quarians have no doubt done the geth a great injustice, and the geth immediately returned the favor. Genocide was committed by both sides during the Morning War. Yet the geth chose to sit on Rannoch, the world the quarians desperately need. They must have known the quarians would come back for their homeworld. When it happened, they choose that dooming every race in the galaxy to extinction by allying with the Reapers is acceptable. And then there's Legion who goes like "I will reaperize my whole people unless you kill me" situation.

I wish I could stop the quarians and the upload of the Reaper code. I wish I could at least stop the Quarians from committing another genocide if I chose them over the Geth. I wish I could throw those idiots Xen and Gerrel out of the airlock for what they have done. Sadly, the game offers me none of those options. And so I choose the side who opposes the Reapers over the one who joined them.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Wolfie time

Are you done being an insufferable prat?

No?

Then carry on good fellow!

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Wow. This is still going on? This forum needs a popcorn emote.

I've been using

[remydat]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

@remydat

Yes, I suppose so. I still think you're wrong with solar wind idea, but seeing as I don't have anything to back that up (and I don't feel like reading scientific papers on details of the solar wind and planetary magnetospheres) I might as well drop the subject

Yeah honestly I don't know what the truth is either.  Just speculating based on my rudimentary understanding.

I am no astrophysicist but I did stay at an Holiday Inn Express last night, lol.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

remydat wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

@remydat

Yes, I suppose so. I still think you're wrong with solar wind idea, but seeing as I don't have anything to back that up (and I don't feel like reading scientific papers on details of the solar wind and planetary magnetospheres) I might as well drop the subject

I am no astrophysicist but I did stay at an Holiday Inn Express last night, lol.

I was going to say something snarky.

But I love that reference.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Wow. This is still going on? This forum needs a popcorn emote.

I've been using

Druggie!

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Wow. This is still going on? This forum needs a popcorn emote.

I've been using

Druggie!

I'll have you know that the only drug I use is Wolfie's incredible skill at insane rambling!

[S.A.K]

Auld Wulf wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

Again, I've said it before: All Quarian supporters are hypocrites, they love EDI and can't imagine her dying, but will kill the Geth no problem.

This is hurting your credibility.

It would be hurting his credibility if he was wrong and a voice speaking out against the majorioty. A commonly held viewpoint can't hold credibility. When one of the most reasonable and objective debaters here (Remydat) is noticing hypocrisy and hate? Well, that's when you know it's a problem.

I've pointed out how quarian-supporters tend to push quarians as having an Aryan-like perfection going for them, the true master race, the peoples who're unable of doing any wrong. This is a truth. If you look at Remydat and the people he's debating with, Remy has often admitted the flaws and errors of the geth, and that they are not a perfect people. But if he presents the notion that the quarians are imperfect, it creates a crapstorm. It's almost like dealing with people who have a religious or sexual fetish for something, it verges on being fanatical.

Admittedly, there are less bad and more bad instances of this, here, but it's a common-held thing. Try and find me a quarian supporter who admits that Gerrel should be deposed, or that the quarian governement could be capable of corruption, or that the quarians aren't the best people for not opposing that corruption. Many quarian-supporters talk hatefully about the geth and how the geth are so evil for not doing anything about the heretics, and that's been acknowledged, Remy acknkowledged it. But say anything to slight the Aryan-supremacy of the quarians? You'd better be prepared to be ganged up on by quarian fanaticists.

And therein lies the problem. Geth fans are willing to give a little and be reasonable, geth fans are willing to admit teh errors of their side. Quarian fans will Universally not admit to any flaws or be reasonable. Quarian-supporters won't see the geth as anything other than abominations, whilst the geth side see the quarians as just people, capable of beauty AND error.

This is why the undertone of this debate has always felt more like a debate with people who are horribly racist in all things versus people who aren't. People who can be reasonable, will give, and will understand all perspectives and sides of an argument, and people who can't. It's like the quarian-supporters have so much invested in racism.

I have long spoken of how much I like Koris, I sing his praises. But I haven't seen a single quarian-supporter singing the praises of Legion and all the good he's done.

If that doesn't make you think, then you're part of the problem.

Treating EDI and Geth differently mean we condemn Geth for what they done, not who they are. If you are gonna completely ignore reasoning of one group, that's your problem.

[S.A.K]

Argolas wrote...

Legion: "We regret the deaths of the Creators, but we see no alternative."

Works the other way around just as well, bro.

The quarians have no doubt done the geth a great injustice, and the geth immediately returned the favor. Genocide was committed by both sides during the Morning War. Yet the geth chose to sit on Rannoch, the world the quarians desperately need. They must have known the quarians would come back for their homeworld. When it happened, they choose that dooming every race in the galaxy to extinction by allying with the Reapers is acceptable. And then there's Legion who goes like "I will reaperize my whole people unless you kill me" situation.

I wish I could stop the quarians and the upload of the Reaper code. I wish I could at least stop the Quarians from committing another genocide if I chose them over the Geth. I wish I could throw those idiots Xen and Gerrel out of the airlock for what they have done. Sadly, the game offers me none of those options. And so I choose the side who opposes the Reapers over the one who joined them.

Fair enough.

[silverexile17s]

Auld Wulf wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

Again, I've said it before: All Quarian supporters are hypocrites, they love EDI and can't imagine her dying, but will kill the Geth no problem.

This is hurting your credibility.

It would be hurting his credibility if he was wrong and a voice speaking out against the majorioty. A commonly held viewpoint can't hold credibility. When one of the most reasonable and objective debaters here (Remydat) is noticing hypocrisy and hate? Well, that's when you know it's a problem.

I've pointed out how quarian-supporters tend to push quarians as having an Aryan-like perfection going for them, the true master race, the peoples who're unable of doing any wrong. This is a truth. If you look at Remydat and the people he's debating with, Remy has often admitted the flaws and errors of the geth, and that they are not a perfect people. But if he presents the notion that the quarians are imperfect, it creates a crapstorm. It's almost like dealing with people who have a religious or sexual fetish for something, it verges on being fanatical.

Admittedly, there are less bad and more bad instances of this, here, but it's a common-held thing. Try and find me a quarian supporter who admits that Gerrel should be deposed, or that the quarian governement could be capable of corruption, or that the quarians aren't the best people for not opposing that corruption. Many quarian-supporters talk hatefully about the geth and how the geth are so evil for not doing anything about the heretics, and that's been acknowledged, Remy acknkowledged it. But say anything to slight the Aryan-supremacy of the quarians? You'd better be prepared to be ganged up on by quarian fanaticists.

And therein lies the problem. Geth fans are willing to give a little and be reasonable, geth fans are willing to admit teh errors of their side. Quarian fans will Universally not admit to any flaws or be reasonable. Quarian-supporters won't see the geth as anything other than abominations, whilst the geth side see the quarians as just people, capable of beauty AND error.

This is why the undertone of this debate has always felt more like a debate with people who are horribly racist in all things versus people who aren't. People who can be reasonable, will give, and will understand all perspectives and sides of an argument, and people who can't. It's like the quarian-supporters have so much invested in racism.

I have long spoken of how much I like Koris, I sing his praises. But I haven't seen a single quarian-supporter singing the praises of Legion and all the good he's done.

If that doesn't make you think, then you're part of the problem.

AGAIN, you are dead wrong, and only worsening your own credibility, which in turn worsens his.  Especally since @remydat openly stated that he thinks killing millions to stop dozens is perfectly acceptible. I don't know how one's morals can get so inverted, but no one with ANY sense of objective reasoning would look at him with any form or seriousness.

AGAIN, that's outright lying - YOU are the only one saying that, not anyone else. What people are asking you - wich you NEVER answered - is what the hell were they SUPPOSED to do instead, when every other path led to DEATH? My point, is that prejudiced debaters like you chastize the quarians for doing the EXACT same thing you support the geth in doing. You see shadows where there are NONE, and hatred where there is NONE.
Also, DEAD WRONG. @remydat has done everything in his power to headcannon every fault being caused by the quarians. He says it's all the quarians fault for not negotiating, when the geth never made it an option. That it's the quarians fault for chossong survival when the geth did the exact same. That they sould not have gone to war, even though the alternitve is certen death.
He has done ANYTHING but be objective to the quarians or geth. He has been prejuduced for the geth all throughout. No one ever DID say the quarians were perfect. The miscnception is everyone saying the GETH are perfect, when they are NOT. The problem everyone has with him is that he acts like EVERYTHING was the quarians fault, and that the geth are eternally innocent and absolvable in their actions, simply because they are synthetic. That's prejudice, plain and simple.

Do us a favor: find me proof that diffinitively shows that the geth made open communication with the galaxy broadcasting peace. And before you try BSing me, know that Legion is NOT a diplomat, never was, and was never intended to make diplomatic contact, and is isolated from the geth and working outside their juristiction. Legion's sole mission was to find Shepard. That's it.
And AGAIN, Gerrel is only working off what information he has. He is no different or worse off then Hackett. Why don't you find me someone that thinks Hackett should be deposed for throwing away the Second Fleet against the Reapers so that everyone could run from Acrturus Station? Or how he nearly killed Shepard in ME1 when he fired on Sovergein?
Also, AGAIN, this is demonstrating how the quarians see the geth because THEY have no proof of it. What we know about geth isn't known by them.
And agian, no one was calling the geth "evil." Just that they don't care for organics. Look at Grunt. He cares less about anyone but the Normandy crew, but does that make him evil? Us saying the geth didn't care about others doesn't make them evil. We are arguing that the geth are selfish. "Evil" was NEVER brought up by anyone but YOU. Seeing a pattern?

The only person that ever was unreasonable has been you. How about you point out ONE thing that either you or @remydat diffinitively EVER said was the geth's fault. Theirs and theirs alone. I'll wait.


And HOW many times must it be stated "Legion has no proof to back his word" before you realize "Legion had no proof to back his word"? ONE GETH is not compelling proof to trust the rest of them, especally after a fleet of them attacked the Citadel.
After all, in ME2, Miranda Lawson saved your life, and that doens't mean you trust Cerberus, right? See the connection?

[silverexile17s]

remydat wrote...

silverexile17s

No the alternative is not to die.  The alternative is to talk to the the Geth for the 6 months you said existed between ME2 or ME3.  I would rather risk them blowing me up if I came to the PV than I would strapping guns to the place my siblings and kids live.  You have no proof the Quarians tried this before risking their kids so you fall back on well why should they trust the Geth.  The answer is they shouldn't trust the Geth.  They should value their kids lives enough to do everything they can before turning them into enemy combatants or human shields.  You have no answer for that so you resort to calling me prejudice, sociopathic, amoral and cruel.  Why because I want to exhaust all options before I decide war is the only alternative.  Sure dude.  Those types of attacks win arguments, lol.

And Evacuating civilians is not using them as shields.  If the Heavy Fleet attacked while the Civilian Fleet retreated and the Geth fired on the Civilian Fleet you would have a point.  They didn't.  You ranting doesn't trump rules of war agreed by various countries in the Geneva Conventions and the like.

Look go stand in the corner with your finger on your lips and when you can engage in a debate without resorting to emotional outbursts, get back to me.  Right now you are doing a disservice to yourself with these bullsh*t attacks.

ONE GETH , that is admittedly ISOLATED and seperate form the Consensis. With NO PROOF WHAT-SO-EVER to back up any of his claims. Which was recalled to geth space shortly after, and never reconnected to them. Basing on what Tali says, this attempt was not long after Shepard went into lock-up. So, this attempt was, what, about three weeks after? And Legion appaerantly got called back not long after, so, what, about another week after that?  The geth suddenly pulled back Legion with no warning. You need more then one proposal from a rouge member before you can consider the thought of committing your entire race and future to it. It would be like committing the entire galaxy's fate to Cerberus just because Miranda says to. 
Miranda Lawson saved your life in ME2, so that means you should instantly trust Cerberus, is that it? Because not many sensible people would agree with you on that. This argeuemnt of yours is basically equivilant to handing the Illusive Man the Collector Base purely out of simple obligation. Completely senseless.
All this time, you continue to chastize the quarians for not commotting to an idea that the GETH didn't committ to either. You can't yell at one side for not doing it when the other isn't doing it either. BOTH sides need to be proactive in that case, yet you refuse to accept that one side can't do it alone. The geth can't just be waiting for the quarians, they need to take their own advice and stand up for it. So, again, this idea will never work because the geth are content to sit back and let the quarians hate them. They are unwilling to do anything to proactively fix that idea. What ELSE are the quarians supposed to think?
And AGAIN, you stay, you take your family to the grave with you. If you did care, you would do whatever to make sure they survive, not gamble with them all on a proposal that you wouldn't even knew was possible. Die if you have to, but don't force them to pay for it too.
And if a hostile force was comming to butcher you all, you WOULDN'T try to defend them? How the hell does that make any sense?

And AGAIN, you fall victum to hypocricy, because caring for their kids future is THE ENTIRE REASON THEY WENT TO WAR WHEN THEY CLEARLY DIDN'T WANT TO.
Again, WHAT other choice is there? What is this magic headcannon you think was avalible to the quarians. Attacking was a last resort to save their people and future. That they stand down when given the option is FULL PROOF that they are completely open to alternitives when they think there is a chance they will work. Instead, you think that they should just throw everyone into an option that has NEVER worked before, and has NO supporting evidence that it will work now.
And finally, the most important thing that you NEVER  acknowledged - the quarian civilians were NEVER supposed to be directly involved in that fight. The civilian ships were ment to hang back, being armed only so that THEY could shoot back in SELF-DEFENSE. If the enemy came for your family, wouldnd YOU want a weapon to protect them with? Considering this is a foe that is renouned for not taking prisioners. The civilians were not involved in the front-line fighting until AFTER the geth were upgraded. After that, all quarian ships were FORCED to fight.

The civilian ships were basically nothing but a giant convoy, with the military escorting them back to their homeland, and clearing out the enemy that has never shown any vested interest in retruning it. YOU are the one that said that it's perfectly fine to BUTCHER civilians - men, woman, childeren, sick, and elderly alike - if they are within distance of the military. That's NOT war, that's wholesale slaughter of innocent people. And THAT'S prejudice, amoral, sociopathic, and cruel. The idea that mass murder is justified simply because they are in the area.  The quarians have demonstrated that they went to war BECAUSE they thought there WAS no other option. They show that they are completely open to new options when they KNOW about them being real, and not just some forelorn unproven idea.

Again, the entire point the liveships were armed was in case of the worst-case scenerio. With Xen's weapons, the liveships and civilians were NEVER ment to be in the fight. Xen's viral weapon would have made Gerrel's Heavy Fleet and Raan's Patrol Fleet all that was needed. The Civilians were NEVER supposed to be in the fighting. The weapons were in case of the chance the worst came to pass. A precaution that payed off when the geth sided with the Reapers. Those weapons were ment to ensure their civilians were safe, as the quarians were incapable of going anywhere without taking the fleet with them. The ENTIRE fleet with them. Your sociopathic views haven't been used by any military I ever saw that WASN'T run by dictators and facists. Your logic is what the ruthless dictators use. I haven't seen major countries fire on civilians unless there was no other option. Just look at the U.S soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan. By your logic, they should have been gassing and bombing every city and town. Instead, they only shoot militants.
The liveships are civilians. Civilians whose convoy ships can be disabled easily. Slaughtering them is wholesale murder. There is NO justification for that.

Again, you make false accusations. I use caps to get my point across, since you show an extreme inclination to headcannon and prejudiced ideals. It seems to be the only way to break the shield of BS you have buried yourself in. You have been prejudcied and one-sided the entire time. 
Besides, barring that, you are the one that was chastized by nearly everyone else you debated with (S.A.K, tevix, DenyonSlayer, ChronoDragon, sH0tgUn jUliA, ect.) as being the one that was the victim of having emotional outbursts. So you really have no right to crituqe others on that.

[remydat]

Silver,

What did Legion propose and how was trusting him going to doom the Flotilla? Whatever Legion proposed you can investigate. When Legion is recalled, you can go looking for him. Sending a single ship to go find him risks the lives of ADULTS. I would happily volunteer for that mission if the alternative was strapping guns to my siblings or kids home.

And civilians with guns are enemy combatants or human shields. Explain to me why according to rules of war they are not. Otherwise, I don't care about your opinion Silver. You are free to have one but it is irrelevant. Support your opinion with evidence other than your own voice because just like the Quarians with respect to the Geth, you have no credibility with me. The only difference is I am not preparing to send my kids to war.

The rest of your post is just rambling incoherent insults with some pronouns, prepositions and verbs thrown in to give the appearance of sentences. So in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, that's all I am gonna say about that.

Modifié par remydat, 11 avril 2013 - 06:31 .

[silverexile17s]

S.A.K wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Legion: "We regret the deaths of the Creators, but we see no alternative."

Works the other way around just as well, bro.

The quarians have no doubt done the geth a great injustice, and the geth immediately returned the favor. Genocide was committed by both sides during the Morning War. Yet the geth chose to sit on Rannoch, the world the quarians desperately need. They must have known the quarians would come back for their homeworld. When it happened, they choose that dooming every race in the galaxy to extinction by allying with the Reapers is acceptable. And then there's Legion who goes like "I will reaperize my whole people unless you kill me" situation.

I wish I could stop the quarians and the upload of the Reaper code. I wish I could at least stop the Quarians from committing another genocide if I chose them over the Geth. I wish I could throw those idiots Xen and Gerrel out of the airlock for what they have done. Sadly, the game offers me none of those options. And so I choose the side who opposes the Reapers over the one who joined them.

Fair enough.

Indeed. This is arguably the most sensible thing I've heard in the entire debate. Kudos.

Modifié par silverexile17s, 11 avril 2013 - 06:33 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Kids play nice or I'll have to call Harby in to "Harvest" you so you don't "harvest" each other.

Don't worry we'll make you nice slushies afterwards.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 11 avril 2013 - 06:45 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I wish we could have recruited Xen to work on any tech we found. She's a scientist. Anything to give us an edge. The woman was a genius, psychoses not withstanding. But hell set her up with a full lab who knows what she'd come up with. In times like a reaper invasion you overlook things like her beliefs so long as she does her job. For developing the weapon she did? That was her job. Throwing her out the airlock would be a total waste of brainpower.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Kids play nice or I'll have to call Harby in to "Harvest" you so you don't "harvest" each other.

Don't worry we'll make you nice slushies afterwards.

Can I have a berry flavor?