KiwiQuiche wrote...
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
I'm fairly certain siding with the mecha-cuttlefish twice crosses into too dumb to live territory...
Yeah and trying to kill a whole race for asking a question, killing any sympathizers, getting kicked in the nuts then b!tching about their fcukups while trying to blame the ones who defended themselves for 300 years, trying to colonize a world without asking permission from the galactic government, never trying to fix their sh!t immune systems, sticking guns on ships which are for civilians then dragging said civilians into a stupid 'retake my planet' war while said mecha-cuttlefish are eating everyone and even if they won the Reapers would kill their moronic asses a few weeks later, and trying to blown up a ship while Commander Shepard is aboard means the quarians have gone and made a few cities in the too dumb to live terriorty.
WRONG. First off, all those vids of the protesters?
They all took place
before the Morning War. NOT durning. BEFORE. Legion makes an explisit point of saying that by the time war broke out, the protesters were disbanded.
Also, you are going to take ONE death as an example of how things were done, when, by the fact that it was a bomb in a door breach, Magara's death may have been a
complete accident? And jugding an entire race of
2.1 billion based on images of, what, less then a dozen people? Especally since
no footage of the actual war was shown? That makes no sense.
And the other recording showed a quarian getting arrested, and "thrown in with the others," meaning that the quarian police
arrested everyone, and only resorted to lethal force when
forced, like when someone refuses to turn in beings wanted by the state?And as for trying to destroy the geth, the quarians figured that if they didn't do it, the Council would send in an army of their own to do it, once they caught on. The punsihment for a single shackled A.I. is harsh scanctions. What do you think the punishment for thousands of
unshackled A.I.s is? The quarian economy was too small to handle something like the scanctions the Council would levy against them.
Not to mention that the Council would have also gone in guns blazing, thinking that, like the quarians also believed, the geth were nothing but docile, malefunctioning mechs. They would have been unprepared for retaliation, been embarresed that they got their asses handed to them, and having to defend their pride now, would then have launched all out war against the geth, which would have likely spilled into the Terminus, which would have esclated further and further.
And on top of all this, no one knew the geth were actually sapiant at that point. They intitially thought that the geth were little more then machines when they attacked. And since the quarian government thinks the geth are going to die either way, by their hand or the Council, they figure that they should "turn their attentions to those they can
still save." Which is the 2.1 billion people they look over. The geth are assumed to be dead anyway, so there is no reason the quarians should suffer for it too. They were simply putting their people and welfare first, like governments are
supposed to do for their people.
And AGAIN, since they intended to fight the Reapers after reclaiming Rannoch, of COURSE they armed their civilians ships. Hackett and Udina wasted no time ordering all
human civilian ships to be armed in light of galactic crisis, but
quarians arming ships? Nope. Not good.<_<
Are you for real? Given what the Reapers are doing, I'm supprised that they aren't outfitting BIKES with guns at this point. And since the Migrant fleet is unable to be split, as in their current state of interdependancy, the military ships can't fight in sustained conflict without the re-supply of the civilians ships, this means that they would have had no choice to bring the civilians ships with them into the Perceus Vail. And being unarmed never stopped the geth from obliterating those diplomatic peace envoys, did it? So not arming the ships would have done jack-squat to protect them from geth notice, as the geth have showen repeatedly that they destroy
anything that enters the Perceus Veil, unarmed or not.
And let me put this another way:
17 million people representing an entire species vs three people. This isn't that hard a choice. Gerrel is lifeling military, and lifelong military of any kind teaches you to put the needs of the many ahead of the needs of the few. It's 17 million (an entire race) vs three people. Hackett did the exact same thing in ME1 when he fired on Sovergein, despite the Commander and two squadmates being right next to it in the Citadel Tower. (And Hackett KNEW Shepard was there. The relays could only be unlocked to allow the fleet in from the control unit in the Tower.) If the roles were switched and you had to risk 17 million for three people, you would take the shot too.
And AGAIN, unable to help the war effort unless they lose the civilians and become completely self-sufficant. Rannoch is the only place that's possible. And also, geth are listed as Reaper allies, and have been for three years, so attacking the geth DOES constitue helping the war effort, as everyone thinks the geth are with the Reapers already.
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is in the "shirt-sleeves" habitable terperature zone, © has an oxygen-based atmosphere, (d) has airborne particles that don't kill when inhailed, (e) has food sources that don't need to be reduced into oversterilized paste to consume safetly, (f) has tolerible gravity levels, (g) has abundant resources that haven't been harvested (the geth say all their resources came from asteroids), and (h) has the same insect-free symbiotic ecology that they evolved beside.
