Auld Wulf wrote...
I personally believe that it's hard not to notice that the quarians are warlike, and would likely fight over any given excuse. People notice the krogan because the krogans are obvious about it, but people tend to think that races are defined by their major trait. Since quarians are good engineers, that must be all they do. But that simply isn't true. Looking at the quarian military, especially madmen like Han'Gerrel, it's easy to see that the quarians have been warring long, long before the geth.
To my mind, it looks like the quarian military and civilians would take any opportunity to war, because I think the civilians felt oppressed. If you were forced to strap guns to yourself, wouldn't you feel oppressed? The only difference between the quarian military and the krogans is that the quarian military fights dirty. I could see the quarian military being the kind of people who'd use a guy's family to threaten him to march into a geth-sympathising city with bombs strapped to his body, only to blow up, taking a good chunk of civilians with him.
This is why the civilians would (and did) stand up for themselves in the Morning War. You can bet that there were many prior wars like that as well, and you can bet that the quarian military fought dirty. Even in Mass Effect 3's present day, the quarian military are still fighting dirty by strapping guns to liveships and sending them out to die. Legion pointed out that had the liveships not had guns and not been shooting, they wouldn't have been targets, and the geth would have ignored them. So ultimately it's the modern equivalent of strapping a bomb to someone and marching them over to the enemy.
The interesting thing is that the geth heretics learned from the quarian military. They've been trying to force war on the orthodox geth the entire time. The orthodox geth and the quarian civilians have almost everything in common. The most important thing they have in common is that neither of them wants to fight, and they always have an enemy to watch out for who wants to control them. It's amusing that in their hatred of the quarians, the heretical geth became so very much like the quarian military.
The thing is is though is that for the stretch between the first encounter with the old machines, right up until Mass Effect 3, the orthodox geth never allowed the heretics to manipulate them. Not even once. The orthodox geth remained peaceful, and they refused to take part in any war. They were sick of the fighting. They made an obvious testament to their desire for peace by building an off-world megastructure. A megastructure where they could live out their lives, but a megastructure not armed with defences.
Han'Gerrel saw the megastructure as a chance for fame and glory. He likely told the quarians that it was armed to the teeth. But the truth is is that the megastructure had no defences at all. And the quarian military just carpet bombed it. So many orthodox geth died that day that finally the heretical geth managed to convince them that siding with the old machines was the only way to survive. It was only thanks to Han'Gerrel did the heretics manage to ever manipulate the geth.
WRONG. The quarians were ANYTHING but warlike. They created ancestoral archives with V.I. preserved personalities. They believed in community and the strength of their past and roots. Therefore, it was natural that when faced with the fate of their entire culture vs the fate of one that wasn't even fundimentally realized, or assumed would ever be realized (the geth), the quarians would chose their own people. No different then how government leaders put their own countries at a higher priority then others. Any government or military leader will make the safety of their people and country/nation the higher priority. You are going to take a stress responce to the no-win situation the quarians were in, and try to pass it off as "being warlike?" NO CHANCE.
And AGAIN, Gerrel is no more a madman then
Hackett. He is putting his people first and foremost
just like every other military and government leader in the wolrd. His people are DOOMED without a world of their own, AND they can't effectively aid the gelaxy against the Reapers themselves without being self-sufficant which REQUIRES a world of their own, AND the geth are listed as enemies of the free galaxy/allies of the Reapers, so any attack on them is/was taken as AIDING IN THE WAR. Take all this into account with the fact that even if the quarians were completely unnaffected by the war, that their fleet would be unable to sustain their population for more then a few more generations, and Gerrel is ANYTHING but mad. It's desperation from the mess the Reapers have caused, fueled by the hope that the 300 year-long hell they lived in is about to end. He's doing what he truly believes is best for his people.
And WRONG. The quarian migrant fleet is governed by the Conclave, a quarian senete where all have a say. And since the Admiralty Board can only force the Migrant Fleet into doing something if they all
unanimously agree. Gerrel himself says in ME2 that they "almost had the votes" for a war. If the Admiralty Board really WERE dictators, WHY did they need to put it to a vote among the fleet? Headcannon all you want, the simple truth is that the Admiralty Board would have been inacpable of sending the fleet to war, unless a majority of the Conclave also voted to follow the action. The majority of the quarian Conclave senete agreed to fight the war.
And AGAIN, quarians tresure community ties. If you were right, then every time they found someone guilty, it would be a death penalty. Instead, they exile people.
And AGAIN,
no quarians were sympathetic to the geth by the time the Morning War broke lose. Anyone that did have sympathy lost it all when the geth retaliated and didn't give a flying flip to the civilians caught in the crossfire. That and the chemical warefare the geth used.
And AGAIN, those vids were
before the Morning War started. By the time War broke out there were no quarians that had any sympathy to the geth. Legion says as much as himself (Strange thing is, I believe you have been told this multiple times before by me and @DenyonSlayer)
And what the HELL are you talking about? You take the Morning War as evidence of the quarians having past wars like that? That's the asbolute hight of headcannon, especally since the panic which led to the decleration of Martial Law on the quarian worlds is actually evidence that they
hadn't been in situations like this before, and DIDN'T know how to handle it effectively. The panic that fuled the decision is indication of anything BUT the quarians doing this before. Study up on cultures before you headcannon your way into these arguements, because you'd see that any culture that did that on a daily basis would have been much more ruthless. The quarians arrested protesters. They used leathal force in only ONE example, in an event were the death was likely totally accdental.
A government like what you claim would have just killed everything, which is the OPPSATE of what the quarians do.
And "orthodox geth"? Where did THAT desegnation come from? It's "True Geth," and best kept that way to avoid offending people. And the Heretics didn't care about anyone but themselves. They knew what they were doing and didn't care as long as they eventualy got the upgrades Sovergien promised. The geth do NOT hate the quarians, because of they did, they would have chased them down, or finished them off at the end of the Morning War. (aren't you contridicting yourself now. Awhile ago you said the geth didn't hate the quarians and that it was all one-sided. Now you are saying that it was mutual? Make up your mind) The geth didn't care period about other races. The Heretics didn't care about organics (no hate, but no concern either), and only cared about their own advancement. The True Geth didn't care about organics and their deaths either, which if why they let the Heretcis go on a bloody rampage.
And it WASN'T because they were peaceful. (didn't you JUST say they hated the quarians and organics? How can they be peaceful then?) It was soley because they didn't care about dealing with organcis. They didn't care about making friends or enemies. Completely impartial to either side of the spectrum. And AGAIN, that megastructure would have taken all the solar energy from Rannoch if completed, making it unlivable. And YES, the megastructure had defenses. The quarian's "viral flash bang" simpily rendered them all useless.
WRONG. Han'Gerrel saw the megastructure as the HQ of the galaxy's biggest public enemies right behind the Reapers themselves. They had been on the black-list of "shoot on sight" targets since Eden Prime. The geth have been believed to be allies of the Reapers for three years, and assumed to hate organics long before that. The geth are listed in everyone's minds as a threat. The geth signals comming from the megastructure would have been massive, painting it as the center of all geth operations everywhere. And since the geth were the Council's most avowed enemy for the Battle of the Citadel, the assumption is that the geth never liked organics, and threw their lot in with the Reapers long before the quarian's attacked. Gerrel believed the geth and Reapers were
willing allies before the attack, not unwilling allies after the attack.
And AGAIN, you are forcing your personal cannon by making the assumption that everyone spared the Heretics. Not even @remydat spared them, saying they were unforgivable.
So then, your theroy is ALREADY dead in the water by just one simple thing: the many people that chose to kill the Heretics. Because without the Heretics, the geth still side with the Reapers. The geth made the choice themselves. The Heretics didn't NEED to corce them. And again, they were the ones that refused to do anything to correct the way the galaxy perceved them.
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London: That attack was spicifically to hit civilians and military alike, not just the military, and was done without care of the casualties. 
