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[mass perfection]

 What,in your opinion,was the toughest combat session in the trilogy?

[HolyAvenger]

Krogan battlemaster, Therum, Insanity. The only fight I ever had to drop the difficulty on to pass. I did it on my first insanity run (no NG+) at a ridiculously low level as I went there straight from the Citadel without doing any sidequests. Didn't have Kaidan with NS or Lift.


...50ish tries later or so, I dropped it to Casual just to skip the fight. It was either that or throw my computer out the window.

[Zjarcal]

Hmm, the first time I did Tali's recruit mission that fight with the Colossus gave me a hard time, but it wasn't so hard in further replays. The Collector ship on the other hand got harder for me and gave me a nightmare, more than likely due to being underleveled.

Also, Priority Earth, the final section... 

Nothing from ME1 stands out, but I don't really recall much from it (didn't like the gameplay so I just tried to forget about each fight asap).

Modifié par Zjarcal, 17 mars 2013 - 03:29 .

[S.A.K]

Must be the mirror match at Armax on insanity and difficulty modifiers.

[Asch Lavigne]

There are a few.

ME1
- The Krogan battlemaster as Holy Avenger mentioned.
- I got taken out by the rocket drones a lot on the mission on the moon.
- Fighting the clones of Shiala on Feros. They kept knocking me down over and over.

ME2
- Fights with the Scions and the Preators.
- Agree with Zjarcal about fighting The Colossus the first time. After getting a stratgey down it became easy. I remember the first time I kept having to reload because Kal Reegar kept getting killed.
- Archangel's recruitment, when you go to close one of the shutters there's a Vorcha with a flamethrower around one the corners, he gets me a lot.

ME3
- First part of the Grissom Academy atrium
- Vanguard ********* in the Citadel DLC
- Mirror Match in the Citadel DLC
- The final part of Priority: Earth, from the missile launcher up to the infamous Marauder Shields.
- Fighting all the Brutes while walking under the Reaper on Tuchanka. I keep getting stepped on by the Reaper which makes me vulnerable to the Brutes which then charge me and then game over.
- Geth Prime room on Rannoch can be a little troublesome.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 17 mars 2013 - 03:50 .

[S.A.K]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

There are a few.

ME1
- The Krogan battlemaster as Holy Avenger mentioned.
- I got taken out by the rocket drones a lot on the mission on the moon.
- Fighting the clones of Shiala on Feros. They kept knocking me down over and over.

ME2
- Fights with the Scions and the Preators.
- Agree with Zjarcal about fighting The Colossus the first time. After getting a stratgey down it became easy. I remember the first time I kept having to reload because Kal Reegar kept getting killed.
- Archangel's recruitment, when you go to close one of the shutters there's a Vorcha with a flamethrower around one the corners, he gets me a lot.

ME3
- First part of the Grissom Academy atrium
- Vanguard ********* in the Citadel DLC
- Mirror Match in the Citadel DLC
- The final part of Priority: Earth, from the missile launcher up to the infamous Marauder Shields.
- Fighting all the Brutes while walking under the Reaper on Tuchanka. I keep getting stepped on by the Reaper which makes me vulnerable to the Brutes which then charge me and then game over.
- Geth Prime room on Rannoch can be a little troublesome.

I don't think it's designed to kill all the Brutes. I just run and activate the thing without firing a shot.

[capn233]

Some highlights:

ME1
Saren's Assassins new character Insanity without ragdoll power (don't laugh, they are hard)
Krogan Battlemater on Therum early game
Luna VI (drone bum-rush is bad if you don't get good AOE damage going).
Maybe it is unusual, but I never had a problem with much else.  Including Feros and Noveria's end fights.  Some of the side quests versus organics early game are a problem if you are new character Insanity.  But not as bad as above.

ME2
Archangel as the second mission can be rough.  Low level, no upgrades.
Disabled Collector Cruiser
Object Rho
Honorable mention to Horizon since you don't have many upgrades yet, and your powers are not leveled.

ME3
Honestly the thing I had the most trouble with in my very first game (Insanity) was the Reaper on Rannoch.  It took me too long to figure out the trick of how to beat him.  I just was too slow and kept getting blasted at the end.  Perhaps it didn't help that I played 30hr straight when I got the game.
Clone fight is somewhat challenging before you learn a few tricks.
Armax Arena full bonus versus Spectre is the hardest thing in this game, especially if you play it straight.
Honorable mention to Grisson Academy Atrium, and Defend the Missiles, although I figured out tricks for those fairly rapidly.

And onto the hardest overall...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Krogan battlemaster, Therum, Insanity. The only fight I ever had to drop the difficulty on to pass. I did it on my first insanity run (no NG+) at a ridiculously low level as I went there straight from the Citadel without doing any sidequests. Didn't have Kaidan with NS or Lift.

Haha.  You know what, something similar happened to me.

The first time I beat the game on Insanity it was NG+.  But after that I decided to do a new character.  It was a Soldier, just like before.  At any rate, went directly to Therum.  Had Garrus and Tali with me.  That fight was an absolute **** to pull off early game with crap weapons, amps, and no properly leveled powers.  I finally got it after I don't know how many attempts.  Basically I had to pause right as the cutscene ended and queue up the squad... Tali to hack a Rocket Trooper or Sniper, Garrus to Sabotage... run forward to behind the crate in front near the force field... then pick off all the Geth.  Then the Battlemaster practically could not be killed with my weapons due to regen, so I had to land "clutch" grenades on him.  It took all of them.  And some crafty dodging.  And using the squad as decoys sometimes.  But I got it.  I have since done it with other characters early and it still is tough, but not as bad as that first time.

Saren's lame assassins had been a real pleasure as well with that Soldier.  Guns did near nothing to them with immunity spam.  I don't think Kaidan had Lift at that point either, so I couldn't just ragdoll them off the edge (which happened in a subsequent game and I was pissed... because it was so much easier).

Basically that is why I always said new character insanity early game ME1 was the hardest bit of the trilogy.  That game just did not have a very fair difficulty curve.

ME2 overall was tough in some parts, but I found it to mostly be fair.

ME3 was overall pretty significantly easier than either game, IMO.  Basically Citadel gives some parts of those games some competition, but honestly I am not sure when I did No Charge Novaguard with Full Bonus on mirror that it was actually harder than that Therum fight I talked about above.  It did remind me of it in a way though.

Modifié par capn233, 17 mars 2013 - 07:34 .

[J4mes]

ME2 Grunt's Loyalty Mission against the Krogan Warlord + 4 Support Krogan Battlemasters at the end.

As a Soldier, you just pray that you can put enough bullets into them on Insanity before they get to you.

[All-a-Mort]

ME1 only really had trouble with the Krogan on Therum. I had to replay that a fair number of times to succeed.

ME2 it's a toss up between Horizon with the Scions and Praetorian and getting toasted by the Vorcha Pyros on the Archangel mission.

ME3, has to be the Tuchanka reaper stomping on me, my repeated failure to learn the Rannoch reaper strategy and the Earth missile bit when lots of Banshees and Brutes charge you.

[Hum_Regal]

ME1:
The final fight before the mines on Therum where you're ambushed by Geth gave me a lot of trouble.
And the rocket drones on the moon killed me a lot. And then some more.

ME2:
Closing the gates in Garrus' recruitment mission is something I always dread.
Fighting the two Scions in Horizon's last area. At least you can skip that part of the battle in case it gets too annoying.
Running up to the Colossus until I decided to spam Overload and Energy Drain.

ME3:
The three Geth Primes on Rannoch can be really hard. My infiltrator laughed in their faces while they murdered each other whereas my adept had a lot of trouble.
Kai Leng. He usually gets me at least once while I dispose of his phantoms…
The vanguard clone.
And the first few times I defended the missiles on Earth… nowadays I hide behind the southernmost phone booth and get irritated by how easy this mission has become.

[TheRello99]

ME1: Saren on the Citadel if you don't get him to kill himself (Which I always do but didn't just to see what happens) since he is a pain, but bring Tali and Garrus and you fix that.

ME2: Surprisingly, the hardest fight in ME2 for me was on the mission to get the Reaper Identify Friend/Foe System, the final room. This was my first time playing so I didn't bring the Cain, I brought the Collector Beam and just got repeatedly swarmed by husks. Doesn't help I brought Samara (not loyal so no armour-destroying Reave) and Tali.

ME3: First time playing: The Rannoch Reaper because I didn't know you can completely dodge the laser and still aim at him just by holding down the trigger and rolling twice away from the laser.

Now: All of Priority: Earth, particularly the last section mainly due to the infinite spawn of enemies, but the first section killed me a lot, mainly due to the flashes of the Hades Cannon. I got synced killed by many Brutes during this mission with the occasional Banshee sync kill.

Modifié par TheRello99, 17 mars 2013 - 11:46 .

[Yuanrang]

ME1:
Saren on the very first playthrough when I had spent nearly no time creating a useable build with a useable gear setup. That took ages and he was bloody frustrating even on normal. (It is funny how the second playthrough was a joke though )

ME2:
Nothing really comes to mind. The part where I do recall a few deaths on Insanity was probably the Archangel mission. Other than that, nothing in particular stands out.

ME3:
There is one spot in Grissom Academy which took quite a few tries because I did not bother to really familiarise myself with my surroundings, having gone through the game with ease up to that point. It took a few deaths, but that was more my fault than the game being difficult.

For the most part, ME3 was too easy for me.

[Aryck the One]

In the ME3 Citadel DLC; Armax Arsenal Arena, Mirror Match match combat set, all Score Multipliers on, Solo on Insanity. No question. I don't think anyone has managed to beat this yet.

Don't look at me; I'm not gonna try it unless I'm feeling suicidal.

Modifié par Aryck1095 V2, 18 mars 2013 - 12:18 .

[RedCaesar97]

TheRello99 wrote...

ME3: First time playing: The Rannoch Reaper because I didn't know you can completely dodge the laser and still aim at him just by holding down the trigger and rolling twice away from the laser.

Wait. If you hold the trigger down, you can still roll and it will still continue to target the Reaper? Interesting...

[LincolnWithHat]

Armax Insanity solo match vs. N7 Operatives with all modifiers except player damage enabled.

[Guglio08]

The second large room during Jack's recruitment in ME2 always gets me. I think it's because my team mates always die from the YMIR Mech.

[vicus]

The final mission of Pinnacle Station (Ahern's Mission) on Insanity was the most challenging fight in my opinion. The only moment in the entire trillogy when I had to lower difficulty level.

[HolyAvenger]

LincolnWithHat wrote...

Armax Insanity solo match vs. N7 Operatives with all modifiers except player damage enabled.

 

I tried this. Frickin' hard. The only videos I've seen so far are people cheesing it with a Venom or something.

With a Black Widow Soldier, it has been very difficult so far. Only had 2-3 attempts yet though. 

[Ferretinabun]

ME1 is the worst in the trilogy for challenging fights. Or maybe it just seems that way because of the unskippable pre-fight cutscenes.

The colossus fight before you enter the mines on Therum is my absolute worst. HATE that fight. Probably because I usually go for Liara first and I'm usually still pretty low level. Worst in the trilogy, in my head.

Though Saren, and any fight with a geth hopper can be a pain if you have no biotics.

And ME3 Priority Earth is actually really quite hard at the end...

There might have been hard fights in ME2, but it doesn't feel that way because I enjoyed pretty much all of them. Oh, actually, the fight on board the Derelict Reaper with all those husks piling on you for ages. Yeah, THAT one's a pain.

[madzilla84]

The praetorian on Horizon (the ones in MP are kittycats in comparison) - I didn't have as much trouble with the one on the Collector ship but that one is a b***h. The Reaper IFF, Archangel's recruitment mission (closing the gates and the vorcha with flamer), Therum with a new/low-level Shepard, the last part of Priority: Earth (particularly the very first time you play it when you don't realise it's infinite spawn and you need to push the button ... heh), and the Mirror Match.

Oh, and thresher maws in ME1. Just can't get the hang of 'em. I think I'm doing okay, keeping on the move etc, and then I get instakilled. I kill the one you need to for the Cerberus missions and avoid the others for the most part.

[remydat]

Man Maruader Shields on Insanity was the toughest for me.  I don't think I have ever used a pistol in any of my playthroughs so trying to headshot that dude with a pistol took forever.  Making matters worse, it was like 4am after a marathon day of Mass Effect so I was tired and in a bad mood but wanted to finish the game that night.  Dude had me there until like 5am trying to kill him on Insanity so I could get my Insanity Achievement.  This was made all the more frustrating because it really shouldn't be that hard to kill him which I did quite easily the next morning because I needed to save face and prove to myself it was just the circumstances that made him so tough.

Modifié par remydat, 18 mars 2013 - 03:10 .

[JyrikGauldy]

Reaper IFF mission is a pain, especially that one part with the two scions coming at you, with pretty much no viable cover because the husks keep swarming you. I always save the cain for it

[RaptorSolutions]

remydat wrote...

Man Maruader Shields on Insanity was the toughest for me.  I don't think I have ever used a pistol in any of my playthroughs so trying to headshot that dude with a pistol took forever.  Making matters worse, it was like 4am after a marathon day of Mass Effect so I was tired and in a bad mood but wanted to finish the game that night.  Dude had me there until like 5am trying to kill him on Insanity so I could get my Insanity Achievement.  This was made all the more frustrating because it really shouldn't be that hard to kill him which I did quite easily the next morning because I needed to save face and prove to myself it was just the circumstances that made him so tough.

Body shot works just fine.

[Feirefiz1972]

Me 1 did not have any difficult fights, eventhough i did die on feros several times facing the asari clones and those poisoned thorian creepers, it depends on the class you play.

Me 2, when you walk into the trap and have to fight harbinger on the collector ship. My teammates kept dying in mere seconds and there is only shoddy cover.

Me 3, the armax arena mirror fight on insanity. Grunt and Wrex did not do anything while al the shepard clones targeted me. Took me a lot of tries to finally defeat them. Hardest fight in the entire series

[sirus1988]

ME1: Antibaar (frozen planet in the Armstrong Nebula). Had to fight a thresher maw, rough terrain, and the geth base that has seemingly only one entrance guarded by a frick tone of rocket troopers, snipers, and a giant collosus. This was the upmost difficult side mission in the Armstrong Nebula Geth invasion and I die alot in the Mako.

ME2: Horizon on Insanity. Good god those scions can snipe! and the husks melee you to death.. then you have to face a bunch of Collectors, and to top it all off got to face preator at the end that is really difficult.

ME3: The last four enemies in the game (the three husks and Maurader Shields). Dead serious XP