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[TheAshenPhoenix]

 As in, people who use a missle to clear out a spawn at the begining of a wave just to get points? I actually want others thought on this.

Because I do, I don't know why. I rarely care about points but to me the fact that somebody would use a missile just to get ahead bugs me so much, after all. That stuff is just gonna respawn 2 seconds later anyway. And it's not like a spawn nuker is gonna nuke the little stuff so the big stuff can't respawn. I'm mostly ranting and wanting to see because I just got out of a match with someone who started spawn nuking at the begining of wave 7 and 8. with perhaps a missile or two more in the waves.

I had my mic on mute and previously had it off, since I had it off for a few while in a room with some buddies. One of my friends implyed the guy was trying to speed run.

On FBW with Cerberus and a group of PUGS (to him)? It was a random map, on wave 7! I'm sorry but that really doesn't scream "speed running" to me.

I'm not normally a bad person, but spawn nuking always ticks me off. When it has no reason at least (not speed running, no targets, etc.). Would you guys react the same way if some guy starting wasting all his rockets? It normally doesn't bother me since it happens in pure PUGS (which honestly I stop caring anyway) and I have no mic in them. But this guy came in when we were all doing fine, had mics, cooperative team. I don't know, maybe I'm just ranting about an overall bad PUG (which he was being.) I was in a bad situation and the guy wasn't helping at all, not even for objectives. But as soon as a good spawn comes along...

Modifié par Phoenix535, 17 mars 2013 - 06:59 .

[TheJtav]

Spawn nuking greatly reduces wave times and benefits the whole team, stop whining.

[cowwy]

Phoenix535 wrote...

 As in, people who use a missle to clear out a spawn at the begining of a wave just to get points? I actually want others thought on this.

Stopped reading right there.

[darkpassenger2342]

maybe they arent doing it for points and they arent convinced the group is capable of not getting overwhelmed on wave 9?

not everything has to be viewed as a selfish act.

some people get sick of randoms that dont rocket even if they are overwhelmed, and if im gonna have to use my rocket anyway, why shouldnt i use it before others are dead?
i dont see your logic, theres more than one reason people rocket at waves starts with certain groups, youre making assumptions.

[d_nought]

I usually don't do it unless I've been sync killed the wave before and thus not in a good mood. But if someone called me a score**** over the mic, I'd probably bring Armored Compartments on a GI for the next match. While using a hipster weapon 4thelulz.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 17 mars 2013 - 06:00 .

[darkpassenger2342]

pretty immature of you to freak out on someone without weighing the circumstances.

[Omega2079]

I want the game to go faster, I don't care about points.

[me0120]

You have horrible priorities OP. You literally cussed a guy out because he didn't play the way you wanted him to, despite the fact that his gameplay made the game faster and easier for you.

[kaileena_sands]

 Nope, I actually like it that they are using missles on purpose. If they find a juicy spawn, let them go for it, it will make the match go faster. I used to do that a lot, but I stopped, since idk, maybe I just became more stingy with missles or something. xD Or I just reached the conclusion that you'll never know how crappy wave 10 can go, so I prefer to keep my missles for it now.

The only spawn nuking I hate is on objective waves, and I also hate it only when they switch the spawn somewhere close to the objective. Oh, and excessive nuking on extraction wave is lolsy, too, nothing screams desperate score-wh*re as much as doing this. 

P.S. OP, not everyone does it for score whoring. For example, when I am in a bad team (and well, I am well-ahead with points anyway), I'll definitely try and search for spawns to nuke, because otherwise I'd have to kill everything the old-style way, and ain't nobody got time for that. Also, when levelling characters, it's also a good idea to get the 3 killstreaks for more exp.

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 17 mars 2013 - 06:02 .

[landylan]

Missiles are against my religion, but if randoms want to use them, I'll be a happy peach.

[MajorStupidity]

Most people who nuke spawns do not do it for the points. It clears out a large chunk of the spawn budget immediately and lets the game progress much quicker.

[me0120]

landylan wrote...

Missiles are against my religion, but if randoms want to use them, I'll be a happy peach.

Oh landylan. I tried responding to you in that other thread, but the thead blew up. I guess I'll PM you.

[TheAshenPhoenix]

kaileena_sands wrote...

 Nope, I actually like it that they are using missles on purpose. If they find a juicy spawn, let them go for it, it will make the match go faster. I used to do that a lot, but I stopped, since idk, maybe I just became more stingy with missles or something. xD Or I just reached the conclusion that you'll never know how crappy wave 10 can go, so I prefer to keep my missles for it now.

The only spawn nuking I hate is on objective waves, and I also hate it only when they switch the spawn somewhere close to the objective. Oh, and excessive nuking on extraction wave is lolsy, too, nothing screams desperate score-wh*re as much as doing this. 

Noted, I'm actually open to changing my veiw on this. Which is why I posted, it would seem the only other info I've gotten form here implies players who do this usually are only out for poitns. Guess that's what I get for listening to BSN. Will have to keep this in mind after this, though I do beleive the guy would've called me out if he wasn't trying to get points for it, I'm not just pure raging. I don't really think it makes things go faster since they just respawn, sure it lowers the budget a bit, but not but that much. But still, I suposse useful info for me to use. I do beleive I saw him use a missile or two during 11, but at that point I thinkit was the only one he had left (he used 2 in 7/8, and 2 on 10 when he was back to a normal player)

Modifié par Phoenix535, 17 mars 2013 - 06:04 .

[Crimson Vanguard]

Using missile on a near death enemy, enemies that I can kill in a sweep and clean method. Those are that pissed me off.

Also using missile to horde score is hilarious, save me the trouble.

[MajorStupidity]

Phoenix535 wrote...

kaileena_sands wrote...

 Nope, I actually like it that they are using missles on purpose. If they find a juicy spawn, let them go for it, it will make the match go faster. I used to do that a lot, but I stopped, since idk, maybe I just became more stingy with missles or something. xD Or I just reached the conclusion that you'll never know how crappy wave 10 can go, so I prefer to keep my missles for it now.

The only spawn nuking I hate is on objective waves, and I also hate it only when they switch the spawn somewhere close to the objective. Oh, and excessive nuking on extraction wave is lolsy, too, nothing screams desperate score-wh*re as much as doing this. 

Noted, I'm actually open to changing my veiw on this. Which is why I posted, it would seem the only other info I've gotten form here implies players who do this usually are only out for poitns. Guess that's what I get for listening to BSN. Will have to keep this in mind after this, though I do beleive the guy would've called me out if he wasn't trying to get points for it, I'm not just pure raging. I don't really think it makes things go faster since they just respawn, sure it lowers the budget a bit, but not but that much. But still, I suposse useful info for me to use. I do beleive I saw him use a missile or two during 11, but at that point I thinkit was the only one he had left (he used 2 in 7/8, and 2 on 10 when he was back to a normal player)

Most people have told you it really is not about the points... I do not know why so many people are just convinced that everybody else is just a complete point W***e.

Using a missle on a good spawn will wipe out a large chunk of the spawn budget. Take out enough bosses and you shave off several minutes worth of kiting and fighting for every spawn nuked. This helps you so stop complaining. If you aren't concerned about the points I don't know why you would care.

Modifié par MajorStupidity, 17 mars 2013 - 06:08 .

[Zjarcal]

Who says they are doing it for points?

No doubt there may be a few who do it for that, but whenever I do it it's usually on waves that I consider ultra annoying (collectors gold wave 8, geth platinum wave 2, etc.), or if I'm running low on medigel and want to make sure the wave is easy enough so that I can save it for the final waves.

I also usually do it if the team is really bad.

Using missiles on each spawn on wave 11, ok, yeah, that's usually done for points. I hardly ever do that unless I'm trying to level up. Not that I care if others do really, it's only annoying when it's done recklessly and they end up forcing enemies to spawn on top of me.

That being said, if someone is nuking spawns on EVERY wave (and we're not speedrunning), yeah, it does get annoying eventually.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 17 mars 2013 - 06:14 .

[Lucky]

OP, yelling at someone for doing it is uncool and uncalled for. I say that as someone who thinks that spawn nuking is silly and boring. As long as they are helping with the mission and not cheating you have no right to yell at them, much less cuss them out, for the way they want to play in a public game.

That said spawn nuking is boring, I actually want to play the game, not just make the match end faster for more credits per hour, so I don't personally find the 'spawn nuking' playstyle fun. Also, IMO rockets are better used for getting out of a bad situation/getting objectives done than for making waves go faster.

However, they are their rockets and they have every right to use them. The only time when someone rockets and it is "just to boost their score" is when they run around nuking spawns on wave 11.

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

Missiles on the first spawn point of wave 8 and 9 in Platinum are kind of a blessing.
I hate people nuking a single Atlas without any Squadmate bleeding out.
But spawn points, why not.
This game is easier the more the squad is aggressive, let the enemies spread out and surround you and you're fubar, but if you move as one entity, quick and focused, then the game is a cake.

[kaileena_sands]

Phoenix535 wrote...

kaileena_sands wrote...

 Nope, I actually like it that they are using missles on purpose. If they find a juicy spawn, let them go for it, it will make the match go faster. I used to do that a lot, but I stopped, since idk, maybe I just became more stingy with missles or something. xD Or I just reached the conclusion that you'll never know how crappy wave 10 can go, so I prefer to keep my missles for it now.

The only spawn nuking I hate is on objective waves, and I also hate it only when they switch the spawn somewhere close to the objective. Oh, and excessive nuking on extraction wave is lolsy, too, nothing screams desperate score-wh*re as much as doing this. 

Noted, I'm actually open to changing my veiw on this. Which is why I posted, it would seem the only other info I've gotten form here implies players who do this usually are only out for poitns. Guess that's what I get for listening to BSN. Will have to keep this in mind after this, though I do beleive the guy would've called me out if he wasn't trying to get points for it, I'm not just pure raging. I don't really think it makes things go faster since they just respawn, sure it lowers the budget a bit, but not but that much. But still, I suposse useful info for me to use. I do beleive I saw him use a missile or two during 11, but at that point I thinkit was the only one he had left (he used 2 in 7/8, and 2 on 10 when he was back to a normal player)

Well, it's quite good when people are open to change their views and have a discussion, you know it's a damn rare thing on BSN.  But anyway, depending on the spawn, it may lower the budget quite significantly. Let's say we have Gold, wave 8, budget for the wave is 1440. Let's assume the spawn consists of 2 Banshees, a Ravager, Brute and 2 Marauders. The cost for that is 2x100 + 60 + 70 + 2x35. That's 400+ points (there will be some points for the Swarmers) which is roughly said, a third of the wave. So it does make a difference.

[cronshaw]

I'm calling BS
the only possible way this could bother you OP
is if you do in fact care a lot about points

[ZiRK]

Sometimes, but other times I just want these laggy games over already.

[RelativeBlue]

I usually miss with missile shots. Cobra needs a scope and stability mod. Also seems to me a massive AOE weapon of great power is probably designed to kill an entire group. Shouldn't really grudge a good score, some folks are just smooth like that. Not me though, I usually miss with missile shots.

[CNevarezN]

Cursing someone out because they used their rockets? I betcha you're the type that saves all your rockets for wave 11. Give me a break man.

Modifié par CNevarezN, 17 mars 2013 - 06:15 .

[FlowCytometry]

If its before wave 11: I hope they have enough to save any teammates getting SK'd for later.

If its on wave 11 and not saving a teammate or clearing the LZ: lol. Just... lol.

If they have AC V: by all means rack up dem kill streaks; I like short matches.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 17 mars 2013 - 06:20 .

[TheAshenPhoenix]

[/quote]kaileena_sands wrote...

[quote]Phoenix535 wrote...

[quote]kaileena_sands wrote...

 Nope, I actually like it that they are using missles on purpose. If they find a juicy spawn, let them go for it, it will make the match go faster. I used to do that a lot, but I stopped, since idk, maybe I just became more stingy with missles or something. xD Or I just reached the conclusion that you'll never know how crappy wave 10 can go, so I prefer to keep my missles for it now.

The only spawn nuking I hate is on objective waves, and I also hate it only when they switch the spawn somewhere close to the objective. Oh, and excessive nuking on extraction wave is lolsy, too, nothing screams desperate score-wh*re as much as doing this. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
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Noted, I'm actually open to changing my veiw on this. Which is why I posted, it would seem the only other info I've gotten form here implies players who do this usually are only out for poitns. Guess that's what I get for listening to BSN. Will have to keep this in mind after this, though I do beleive the guy would've called me out if he wasn't trying to get points for it, I'm not just pure raging. I don't really think it makes things go faster since they just respawn, sure it lowers the budget a bit, but not but that much. But still, I suposse useful info for me to use. I do beleive I saw him use a missile or two during 11, but at that point I thinkit was the only one he had left (he used 2 in 7/8, and 2 on 10 when he was back to a normal player)

[/quote]

Well, it's quite good when people are open to change their views and have a discussion, you know it's a damn rare thing on BSN.  But anyway, depending on the spawn, it may lower the budget quite significantly. Let's say we have Gold, wave 8, budget for the wave is 1440. Let's assume the spawn consists of 2 Banshees, a Ravager, Brute and 2 Marauders. The cost for that is 2x100 + 60 + 70 + 2x35. That's 400+ points (there will be some points for the Swarmers) which is roughly said, a third of the wave. So it does make a difference.

[/quote]

Yes, I know it is. But this guy had refused to use them on objective waves until that point when things were kind of going to **** and he just stood there. But then the atlas's come out (with our squad that had a juggernaut, drellfiltrator, and trroper could of eaily taken down) the next wave and he spawn nukes it! Complete with the fact that he didn't help with the objectives until I called him out on it, didn't help, had a mic and din't use it, and only nuked high point targets till then. I'm sorry but for now I'm gonna file that away in point horder. I do feel kind of bad, but was at the time raging at the stuff he wasn't helping with, a temper, no help and nuking spawn /=/ a calm player to me. I'll keep things like this in mind though, I just wasn't exactly in the best situation when he started this ****. 

Modifié par Phoenix535, 17 mars 2013 - 06:23 .