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[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Majestic thread.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 17 mars 2013 - 04:11 .

[sandalisthemaker]

Sutekh wrote...

btw, I don't think you're trolling - not really - but you sound very, very clueless.

OP has a 'rape fetish'.  He/she basically said so in the last thread they made on this subject.

[Drone 5]

Okay, to those people still reading, I genuinely think covering sensitive topics such as rape could help writers explore the darker side of humanity. Things like the perpetrator's feeling of empowerment, of utter pleasure in causing sorrow to a potential victim, of turning them into something 'less' than human (or elven, even if they are).

Treating people as objects and the resulting the distress the victim feels when she realizes she or he is entirely under someone else's control is something reserved for the darkest corners of the psyche, but makes for a subject worth exploring all the same.

[Blazomancer]

Hell, these sort of threads get more response than when I create a combat related thread. DFTT guys.

[viki2011]

Not gonna happen!!! I sincerely recommend u go to a shrink u pervert!!!. Rape will always be wrong and black. There is no justification for it even in a game.

[spirosz]

Drone 5 wrote...

Um, sorry?

[The Heretic of Time]

Imagine the sh*tstorm in the media and news if the common plebs discover that BioWare released a game that allows the player to rape his/her companions. Yeah.... not gonna happen.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 17 mars 2013 - 03:59 .

[Medhia Nox]

Guess morality isn't so relative after all?

Didn't think so.

Drone5: Thank you for illustrating the inevitable conclusion of moral relativism.

[Drone 5]

TJPags wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...

Jeez, is this the fabled Western puritanism I've heard so much about? My requests are not that crazy... go look up Sylvius the Mad if you want crazy.

No, this is people with a moral compass that you've apparently not heard of.

If you've played any sort of mainstream video game in the past decade aside from casual mobile crap then you should probably be in prison. Obviously butchering those poor innocent pixels makes you a psychologically ill criminal.

[Anthadlas]

I think rape as an ingame factor could be used well for a villian or other such characters as it is part of the dark side of the real world but it isn't something the players character should engage in as an enjoyable hobby

[DeinonSlayer]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Imagine the sh*tstorm in the media and news if the common plebs discover that BioWare released a game that allows the player to rape his/her companions. Yeah.... not gonna happen.

*pointed glance at FemShep/Vega in Citadel DLC*

[mumba]

Sure. Just throw some bestiality while you're at it.

[philippe willaume]

Drone 5 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...

Sutekh wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...
[...]

As long as it is handled tastefully and isn't viewed strictly as a black/white 'thing', I think entertaining the concept could be worthwhile. Whaddya think?

There's no way rape committed by the PC can be handled tastefully. This is crossing a line into highly triggering territory, and, seriously, rape as a game mechanic is in itself tasteless.

And I really don't think you can mitigate it in any way in order to have it non "black and white".

I disagree. Quick example: X group of bandits kills the PC's LI. Your character rapes their leader. It's not black and white.

You've lost your mind, or you're drunk, or you've just got no sense of right or wrong.

Rape is black and white - rape is wrong.

End of conversation.

What about raping rapists then?

seriously?
What part of rape is wrong is that difficult to understand?
let me try an other way,
there can not be any moral, religious or philosophical justification for such an act.
Ie it is wrong regardless the circumstances.

now let me guess, your next argument will about killing someone is self defense vs kiiling him x days later and how it can be argued that nation state use the latter methode as part of the judical system?

phil

[Zazzerka]

Whoa.

[Burnham1]

I'm not going to say I support adding rape to games, because I don't, but it is kind of strange reading the comments as to why it is bad when you could easily replace the word "rape" with "killing". It is crazy to think of how accepted killing and murder has become in video games, but sex and rape are so taboo.

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.

[Khelish]

...

uh...

[The Heretic of Time]

Drone 5 wrote...

Okay, to those people still reading, I genuinely think covering sensitive topics such as rape could help writers explore the darker side of humanity. Things like the perpetrator's feeling of empowerment, of utter pleasure in causing sorrow to a potential victim, of turning them into something 'less' than human (or elven, even if they are).

Treating people as objects and the resulting the distress the victim feels when she realizes she or he is entirely under someone else's control is something reserved for the darkest corners of the psyche, but makes for a subject worth exploring all the same.

Someone read 50 Shades of Grey a bit too often.  Mind you, that I haven't read that book myself (not interested), but from what I've heard from pretty much all the women around me, that book is about such subjects. And that's all fine in a book where a story of a fictional character is discribed in words, but in visual interactive medium such a video-games this could cause a major sh!tstorm.

I mean not only is the visual display of rape rather distasteful, but giving the player authorship and control over this rape... yeah... you can probably see why some many people object against that idea (I hope).

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 17 mars 2013 - 04:03 .

[Anthadlas]

Drone 5 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...

Jeez, is this the fabled Western puritanism I've heard so much about? My requests are not that crazy... go look up Sylvius the Mad if you want crazy.

No, this is people with a moral compass that you've apparently not heard of.

If you've played any sort of mainstream video game in the past decade aside from casual mobile crap then you should probably be in prison. Obviously butchering those poor innocent pixels makes you a psychologically ill criminal.

I agree with this that people need to realise the difference between a game and real life.

From a moral point of view I wouldn't agree with rape but from a purely logical point of view I don't see how it is any worse than murder in videogames. It just seems that for some reason murder is more socially acceptable than rape

[The Heretic of Time]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Imagine the sh*tstorm in the media and news if the common plebs discover that BioWare released a game that allows the player to rape his/her companions. Yeah.... not gonna happen.

*pointed glance at FemShep/Vega in Citadel DLC*

That's different.

[spirosz]

It's like the Witcher all ova.

[Drone 5]

philippe willaume wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...

Sutekh wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...
[...]

As long as it is handled tastefully and isn't viewed strictly as a black/white 'thing', I think entertaining the concept could be worthwhile. Whaddya think?

There's no way rape committed by the PC can be handled tastefully. This is crossing a line into highly triggering territory, and, seriously, rape as a game mechanic is in itself tasteless.

And I really don't think you can mitigate it in any way in order to have it non "black and white".

I disagree. Quick example: X group of bandits kills the PC's LI. Your character rapes their leader. It's not black and white.

You've lost your mind, or you're drunk, or you've just got no sense of right or wrong.

Rape is black and white - rape is wrong.

End of conversation.

What about raping rapists then?

seriously?
What part of rape is wrong is that difficult to understand?
let me try an other way,
there can not be any moral, religious or philosophical justification for such an act.
Ie it is wrong regardless the circumstances.

now let me guess, your next argument will about killing someone is self defense vs kiiling him x days later and how it can be argued that nation state use the latter methode as part of the judical system?

phil

You do realize that your ethics are not mine? I've seen countless news threads and commenters wishing that X criminal should be tortured with the most severest of methods the legal system could conceive up yet when it comes to FICTIONAL rape people are obviously appalled.