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Should rape be a game mechanic in Dragon Age 3?


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Don't feed tha troll peeps.


Very constructive. Thanks for your input. Image IPB


Please stop feigning innocence.The fact that you wait until Sunday to create this craptastic thread again, is proof you're trollin'. At least have the balls to own up to your childish deeds.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

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Imagine the sh*tstorm in the media and news if the common plebs discover that BioWare released a game that allows the player to rape his/her companions. Yeah.... not gonna happen.

*pointed glance at FemShep/Vega in Citadel DLC*

That's different.

How?

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spirosz wrote...

It's like the Witcher all ova.


Stop saying that. There is no rape in The Witcher games.

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Yes.

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Story element: yes. (TW2)

That happened to Ves right? Been awhile since I played.

Yes; it's one of the reasons Roche wanted to kill Henselt.

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Burnham1 wrote...

I'm not going to say I support adding rape to games, because I don't, but it is kind of strange reading the comments as to why it is bad when you could easily replace the word "rape" with "killing". It is crazy to think of how accepted killing and murder has become in video games, but sex and rape are so taboo.

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.


But the OP here wants it as a game mechanic. LOL, i don't really have much clue what that means anyway. But may be OP's talking about a RAPE ability/talent with some cooldown, or probably a 'rapist' specialization.

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I encourage every one of my detractors to play the wonderful Neverwinter Nights module, A Dance With Rogues (ADWR). It may change your perspective on such matters!

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Drone 5 wrote...

I encourage every one of my detractors to play the wonderful Neverwinter Nights module, A Dance With Rogues (ADWR). It may change your perspective on such matters!


Googled purely for research purposes...xD

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discosuperfly wrote...

Drone 5 wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Don't feed tha troll peeps.


Very constructive. Thanks for your input. Image IPB


Please stop feigning innocence.The fact that you wait until Sunday to create this craptastic thread again, is proof you're trollin'. At least have the balls to own up to your childish deeds.


Uh, yeah... or maybe it's because I tend to post here when I have the time. You know, weekends and all that.

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A "Dropping the soap" mechanic in DA3 would be nice.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Imagine the sh*tstorm in the media and news if the common plebs discover that BioWare released a game that allows the player to rape his/her companions. Yeah.... not gonna happen.

*pointed glance at FemShep/Vega in Citadel DLC*

That's different.

How?


Because Vega himself suggested to poor alcohol down his throat if femShep wished to... "do stuff" with him. And as far as I know, Vega himself chose to get drunk on that party. Not to mention that we don't know exactly HOW or WHY Vega and femShep end up in bed, because that isn't shown.

So yeah, entirely different story. Vega wasn't forced to get drunk and he probably wasn't forced to have sex either. Not to mention that HE HIMSELF suggested to get him drunk if femShep wanted sex with him.

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Burnham1 wrote...

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.

The OP clearly asked for rape being performed by the PC. It makes a world of difference, because it makes it legit, in a way. Having a villain do it is another thing entirely, and has been done numerous times, including in DAO.

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I truly believe there IS a difference between killing gobs of villains - and, let's say - using the murder knife (or rape).

Combat as a mechanic is nothing more than a scoring mechanism.

Killing as a story element is different.

And while consensual sex could be used equally as a scoring mechanism (after all - nearly all combat violence in video games in "consensual") - non-consensual rape could, or should, never ever be used in that way.

The video game industry can't even do complex relationships - it is no place for deeply mature topics like this to be handled with anything close to "taste".

Another thing - the difference between this and a book or movie - is that games are interactive. There is NO way for a game to impress upon you the level of violation that is caused by a rape. Any attempt would seem only to belittle a terrible act.

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For this to happen I demand the rapeman mask, or a banjo be added to the game.

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Burnham1 wrote...

I'm not going to say I support adding rape to games, because I don't, but it is kind of strange reading the comments as to why it is bad when you could easily replace the word "rape" with "killing". It is crazy to think of how accepted killing and murder has become in video games, but sex and rape are so taboo.

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.


Rape and killing isn't the same thing. You don't carry around being murdered for the rest of your life.

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Sutekh wrote...

Burnham1 wrote...

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.

The OP clearly asked for rape being performed by the PC. It makes a world of difference, because it makes it legit, in a way. Having a villain do it is another thing entirely, and has been done numerous times, including in DAO.


How many times in videogames has the player character murdered an innocent person? I'm not condoning either but I wonder why one is acceptable and the other isn't

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Medhia Nox wrote...

non-consensual rape 


:huh:

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Can someone please lock this down?

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Banul wrote...

Burnham1 wrote...

I'm not going to say I support adding rape to games, because I don't, but it is kind of strange reading the comments as to why it is bad when you could easily replace the word "rape" with "killing". It is crazy to think of how accepted killing and murder has become in video games, but sex and rape are so taboo.

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.


Rape and killing isn't the same thing. You don't carry around being murdered for the rest of your life.


No, but others (friends/family) do it for you. That still makes it worse, I think.

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Banul wrote...

Burnham1 wrote...

I'm not going to say I support adding rape to games, because I don't, but it is kind of strange reading the comments as to why it is bad when you could easily replace the word "rape" with "killing". It is crazy to think of how accepted killing and murder has become in video games, but sex and rape are so taboo.

I don't think rape should be a game mechanic but I am not opposed to an attempted rape scene being used in a game by some evil character attempting to rape or implying that he plans to rape a helpless or imprisoned victim.


Rape and killing isn't the same thing. You don't carry around being murdered for the rest of your life.

So why is carrying around the knowledge of what happened worse than having no life at all whilst your relatives instead carry around the knowledge that you were murdered?

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You Americans are so funny

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do some ppl just not have a cut off point? does going to far never enter into your thoughts?? will the depths of deprivation know no bounds on these boards

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Reported. :wizard:

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*Sigh* Everyone. Just play A Dance With Rogues. Do it now, and I will genuinely be okay with mods locking the thread, as unfortunate as it may be.

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Drone 5 wrote...

If you've played any sort of mainstream video game in the past decade aside from casual mobile crap then you should probably be in prison. Obviously butchering those poor innocent pixels makes you a psychologically ill criminal.


I'll be the first to agree that doing something while playing a video game is a FAR cry from the real life action.  I'll also agree that game playing does not contribute to degenerate behavior IRL.

Murder is wrong.  But killing and murder are not the same thing.  There is a reason that it is a defense to a charge of murder that you killed in self defense - it's called justification.

Under what stretch of the imagination can you claim to have raped someone in self-defense?

Likewise, killing in games - games of a certain nature - are part of the world, part of the necessary behavior.  You want something, so does someone else, you fight, someone dies.  Someone wants to stop you, they attack you physically, try to kill you so you can't do what they don't want, someone dies.

How does rape meet that purpose?  "I want to make sure character X never gets this item.  I know, I'll rape them!!!".  How does that make ANY sense?

Rape is a crime of power for the perpetrator, and denigration for the victim.  It is all about asserting ones power and dehumanizing another person.  How does it  advance your goals in any way?

And in what sick, twisted world do you even WANT to live out that dyamic?