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Thanks to the Citadel DLC, we may be able to sabotage the Genophage, and keep Wrex alive.


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 this is pure conjecture until I can prepare A save to test this theory.

If I remember Correctly, after you return to the Normandy after the Party, it bypasses the docking bay. So....

If we finished the Citadel DLC story, but did not do the party, right after the Coup, then....

As soon as you talk to the Asari councilor, instead of leaving via the docking bay. go to your apartment and do the party, then when you head back to the Normandy, you'll get the "its been a good trip" speech, and return to the Normandy, bypassing the docking bay, and thus bypassing the "Wrex turns on you" scene.



Like I said, pure Conjecture, but if this works, it could be a valuable exploit.

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Nope. It doesn't matter if Wrex is dead or alive. If you sabotaged the cure, Wrex won't show up.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Nope. It doesn't matter if Wrex is dead or alive. If you sabotaged the cure, Wrex won't show up.

I am not saying we would turn up in the DLC, I am saying with this exploit he can still be alive endgame

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arial wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Nope. It doesn't matter if Wrex is dead or alive. If you sabotaged the cure, Wrex won't show up.

I am not saying we would turn up in the DLC, I am saying with this exploit he can still be alive endgame


I must have misread.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

arial wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Nope. It doesn't matter if Wrex is dead or alive. If you sabotaged the cure, Wrex won't show up.

I am not saying we would turn up in the DLC, I am saying with this exploit he can still be alive endgame


I must have misread.

because Wrex turns on you at the dockingbay (base game), but after the party you bypass the dockingbay, this could be a potential exploit to keep Wrex alive after sabotageing the Genophage

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It doesn't seem like that would work out.

If you do everything right after the Coup, you still need to return to the Citadel later to talk to the Councilor. You'll need to board the Normandy the normal way after that, unless you can do the party multiple times (I've yet to play the DLC).

If you wait until after talking to the asari Councilor - well, then you still need to board the Normandy the normal way after the Coup, to continue the game long enough to get that far (you still need to do Rannoch).

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You'd have to try this. Any number of things could happen.

For example, even if you don't get the confrontation with Wrex you could still lose Krogan assets because the game's code might be set to subtract assets after Priority: The Citadel 3 no matter what.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 18 mars 2013 - 02:07 .


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I still don't understand how it could work. You can't do Rannoch until after the coup, and you need to return to the Citadel after Rannoch to talk to the asari Councilor so you can continue the game. Unless you can do the party more than once, you're going to have to enter the Normandy the regular way at some point.

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You can board the normandy straight from sunset strip without ever going through the docking bay can't you?

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Old news dude. Leviathan added the taxis that can take you straight back to the Normandy

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Nykara wrote...

You can board the normandy straight from sunset strip without ever going through the docking bay can't you?


I've never played the DLC. If that's true, then - huh. Maybe you can avoid killing Wrex.

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DWH1982 wrote...

It doesn't seem like that would work out.

If you do everything right after the Coup, you still need to return to the Citadel later to talk to the Councilor. You'll need to board the Normandy the normal way after that, unless you can do the party multiple times (I've yet to play the DLC).

If you wait until after talking to the asari Councilor - well, then you still need to board the Normandy the normal way after the Coup, to continue the game long enough to get that far (you still need to do Rannoch).

but, after beating the Citadel story, you do not have to do the party right away, you can leave the Ciatdel and do it on a later visit

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nrobbiec wrote...

Old news dude. Leviathan added the taxis that can take you straight back to the Normandy

but the fact after the party it triggers the "good ride" cinimatic, that may Bypass the Wrex turning on us cinimatic, or may load us on the Normandy an entirely seperate way, thus making it have never happened.

those Taxi's load us onto the normandy the smae way the docking bay does. but if my theory is correct, this cinimatic after the party loads us onto it in a seperate way from the docking bay or skycar

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arial wrote...

DWH1982 wrote...

It doesn't seem like that would work out.

If you do everything right after the Coup, you still need to return to the Citadel later to talk to the Councilor. You'll need to board the Normandy the normal way after that, unless you can do the party multiple times (I've yet to play the DLC).

If you wait until after talking to the asari Councilor - well, then you still need to board the Normandy the normal way after the Coup, to continue the game long enough to get that far (you still need to do Rannoch).

but, after beating the Citadel story, you do not have to do the party right away, you can leave the Ciatdel and do it on a later visit


Huh, interesting - I thought that Wrex confronts you after the coup if you sabotage the cure, but it appears that he does so after the Battle of Rannoch.

Yes, it would appear it may be possible to avoid killing Wrex that way. Someone should probably check into that.

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arial wrote...

nrobbiec wrote...

Old news dude. Leviathan added the taxis that can take you straight back to the Normandy

but the fact after the party it triggers the "good ride" cinimatic, that may Bypass the Wrex turning on us cinimatic, or may load us on the Normandy an entirely seperate way, thus making it have never happened.

those Taxi's load us onto the normandy the smae way the docking bay does. but if my theory is correct, this cinimatic after the party loads us onto it in a seperate way from the docking bay or skycar


You have the goodbye scene then you're on the Normandy. You go to a skycar and press "return to Normandy" and then you're on the Normandy.
Wrex only confronts you if you click on the door in the docking bay. I believe he confronts you whenever the next time you use the docking bay after getting the Thessia mission from the Asari councillor is. (Priority: Citadel III)

Modifié par nrobbiec, 18 mars 2013 - 02:22 .


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NOPE, you have to go to meet the asari councillor.

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eoinnx03 wrote...

NOPE, you have to go to meet the asari councillor.


Do that, go to the party and then enter normandy that way.

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eoinnx03 wrote...

NOPE, you have to go to meet the asari councillor.


I think what he is saying is that then you can use the party as a way to get back on the Normandy...I think...

Edit: :ph34r:ed

Modifié par xAmilli0n, 18 mars 2013 - 02:26 .


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xAmilli0n wrote...

eoinnx03 wrote...

NOPE, you have to go to meet the asari councillor.


I think what he is saying is that then you can use the party as a way to get back on the Normandy...I think...

Edit: :ph34r:ed


lol indeed

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nrobbiec wrote...
Wrex only confronts you if you click on the door in the docking bay. I believe he confronts you whenever the next time you use the docking bay after getting the Thessia mission from the Asari councillor is. (Priority: Citadel III)


No, I have first hand experience that no matter if you use the taxi or the docking bay door, Wrex confronts you after you have spoken to the Asari.  You do not have to go to the docking bay door for the Normany in order to trigger the confrontation.

So with that, I propose that if you were to try doing the party right after the Asari talk, that once you clicked on "apartment" it would trigger the Wrex confrontation.  Just a guess.  I bet that the trigger is leaving the Citadel proper...so going to Bryson's Lab, meeting Aria, or going to the apartment would start it.

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Raanz wrote...

nrobbiec wrote...
Wrex only confronts you if you click on the door in the docking bay. I believe he confronts you whenever the next time you use the docking bay after getting the Thessia mission from the Asari councillor is. (Priority: Citadel III)


No, I have first hand experience that no matter if you use the taxi or the docking bay door, Wrex confronts you after you have spoken to the Asari.  You do not have to go to the docking bay door for the Normany in order to trigger the confrontation.

So with that, I propose that if you were to try doing the party right after the Asari talk, that once you clicked on "apartment" it would trigger the Wrex confrontation.  Just a guess.  I bet that the trigger is leaving the Citadel proper...so going to Bryson's Lab, meeting Aria, or going to the apartment would start it.


Are you sure?  I ask because I know that you can bypass the confrontation scene with VS if you go directly on board the Normandy (via the transit system/apt) rather than by the Docking Bay level.

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Yeah Ian, I am sure that it happened with my Shepard. I wanted to try and bypass the scene, so I took a taxi, not the docking bay and bam....The cutscene started with Shepard opening the docking bay door and there was Wrex.

Maybe you can do that with the VS because their inclusion to your party is optional. During the conversation you can tell them you don't want them on board. So the scene is not critical to the story.

Modifié par Raanz, 18 mars 2013 - 02:55 .


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Raanz wrote...

Yeah Ian, I am sure that it happened with my Shepard. I wanted to try and bypass the scene, so I took a taxi, not the docking bay and bam....The cutscene started with Shepard opening the docking bay door and there was Wrex.

Maybe you can do that with the VS because their inclusion to your party is optional. During the conversation you can tell them you don't want them on board. So the scene is not critical to the story.


No problem. Thanks for the info.  I asked simply because I knew the VS scene could be bypassed.  Good to know the Wrex scene can't be.

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Raanz wrote...

nrobbiec wrote...
Wrex only confronts you if you click on the door in the docking bay. I believe he confronts you whenever the next time you use the docking bay after getting the Thessia mission from the Asari councillor is. (Priority: Citadel III)


No, I have first hand experience that no matter if you use the taxi or the docking bay door, Wrex confronts you after you have spoken to the Asari.  You do not have to go to the docking bay door for the Normany in order to trigger the confrontation.


Oh. Ok fair enough.

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Okay, on my latest playthrough (when I get to it) I am going to test out this theory.