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Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".

Cuz I definitely think they are.


I disagree that they're the most bugged, but would agree that in my opinion they're the most annoying to fight.

That's because of stagger however, which is not a bug.

 

Then please name the most bugged faction in your opinion. 

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Cyonan wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".

Cuz I definitely think they are.


I disagree that they're the most bugged, but would agree that in my opinion they're the most annoying to fight.

That's because of stagger however, which is not a bug.


ok. I can respect your opinion,

If not geth, then which faction do you think is?

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They are not completely invisible. Plus you can hear them. You will not hear a Praetorian with a freaking Turtle Beach on your skull sometimes.  

All enemy projectiles go trough walls sometimes. 


I thought we were talking about Reapers being the least buggy, not how Praetorians match up against Banshees.

All enemy projectiles sometimes go through walls, just like most humanoid enemies will double/triple tap sometimes =P

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what makes collectors so unfun is how they have a counter for everything. If you have powers, they swarm them, if you have high defenses, scion's will eat it like nothing, if you have low defenses, a single praetorian beam or possessed abomination will down you instantly through all gates. Combined with those stupid scion grenade flowers that also ignore gates and chew up even a krogan pretty good, the collectors are, i agree, the most un-fun faction

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Damn straight it is! Phantoms should get those shooty knife thingies from CoD to instakill with so they can kill from 30 feet away too!

Ballistic blades have an effective range of 15-20m. Also, longer blades, like their swords, would require much, much more power to fly at all, let alone straight.

They also wouldn't be able to melee attack you afterwards, really, removing their insta-kill ability once used.

Just give them a palm blaster shotgun that knocks you on your ass and lets you be vulnerable to executions while on the ground.


YES. I like the way you think. Increase effective range of ballistic sword to 50 feet (a little over 15m), or give them an instakill assisting shotgun. That way Collectors seem less difficult.

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JediHarbinger wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".

Cuz I definitely think they are.


I disagree that they're the most bugged, but would agree that in my opinion they're the most annoying to fight.

That's because of stagger however, which is not a bug.


ok. I can respect your opinion,

If not geth, the which faction do you think is?


I'd probably go with Cerberus honestly.

Phantoms have insane DR on-host, all their humanoid units can double tap(and yes not as often as the Rocket Trooper =P), and the Atlas can fire butt rockets, can be hit 2-3 times with piercing, and have its' rocket go through solid objects.

Also unconfirmed is Phantoms being able to sync kill you with a broken sword.

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They are not completely invisible. Plus you can hear them. You will not hear a Praetorian with a freaking Turtle Beach on your skull sometimes.  

All enemy projectiles go trough walls sometimes. 


I thought we were talking about Reapers being the least buggy, not how Praetorians match up against Banshees.

All enemy projectiles sometimes go through walls, just like most humanoid enemies will double/triple tap sometimes =P

 

Well they are the least buggy or those bugs cost you the least. You will not get downed instantly. A triple tap means you're dead before you can even realize what just happened. 

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Cyonan wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".

Cuz I definitely think they are.


I disagree that they're the most bugged, but would agree that in my opinion they're the most annoying to fight.

That's because of stagger however, which is not a bug.


ok. I can respect your opinion,

If not geth, the which faction do you think is?


I'd probably go with Cerberus honestly.

Phantoms have insane DR on-host, all their humanoid units can double tap(and yes not as often as the Rocket Trooper =P), and the Atlas can fire butt rockets, can be hit 2-3 times with piercing, and have its' rocket go through solid objects.

Also unconfirmed is Phantoms being able to sync kill you with a broken sword.

 

Will not kill you as much as Geth bugs. DR is annoying - true. Goes without saying. 

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JediHarbinger wrote...

Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".


Huh?  Collectors have most bugs, geth have most robots.



@OP:   N00b, learn2fun ;)

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Ugh..

Dealing with all those damn phantoms on host is extremely frustrating.

Hate those skinny biotches

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Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".


Huh?  Collectors have most bugs, geth have most robots.



@OP:   N00b, learn2fun ;)

 

Yeah. It's really fun zig-zagin between Seekers, grenades, eating Scion cannon rounds that 1 shot my Krogan and eating lazors that I CANNOT take cover from. GENIUS!

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Will not kill you as much as Geth bugs. DR is annoying - true. Goes without saying. 


It's nice that you think that and all...

but I didn't actually say that Cerberus bugs would be the most hazardous to your personal health, just that they were the buggiest faction(which I do stand by that statement if you are counting all bugs, not just the ones that you want to).

Though the Nemesis triple tap is pretty deadly even if it doesn't happen as often as the rocket one.

As is Phantom DR for the host and projectiles hitting you through walls.

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Stinja wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".


Huh?  Collectors have most bugs, geth have most robots.



@OP:   N00b, learn2fun ;)

You must be really good at this game.

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Stinja wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

Can we at least agree that the geth is probably "the most bugged faction".


Huh?  Collectors have most bugs, geth have most robots.



@OP:   N00b, learn2fun ;)


He's right y'know.

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Also on the topic of bugs most dangerous to the team the Collectors win imo.

Rocket triple tap sucks, but the butt lasers can wipe out an entire team.

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Will not kill you as much as Geth bugs. DR is annoying - true. Goes without saying. 


It's nice that you think that and all...

but I didn't actually say that Cerberus bugs would be the most hazardous to your personal health, just that they were the buggiest faction(which I do stand by that statement if you are counting all bugs, not just the ones that you want to).

Though the Nemesis triple tap is pretty deadly even if it doesn't happen as often as the rocket one.

As is Phantom DR for the host and projectiles hitting you through walls.

 

Never seen a Nemesis triple tap. That never happened to me.  

And by buggiest faction I think we all have in mind that those bugs KILL you the most. I don't really care if that Husk has one arm instead of two. But I do care when a Pyro can flame me across 3 football stadiums. 

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youtu.be/vYwGEseAuAE

My reaction to Geth. 

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Cyonan wrote...
However going off the recent telemetry data, it does not appear as though the Collectors are that much tougher than the average, being that 59% of missions succeed while 54% of Collector missions succeed.


Bioware didn't give us any numbers to compare consumables usage, number of revives, or mission times between factions. Success isn't the only metric to measure difficulty.

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However going off the recent telemetry data, it does not appear as though the Collectors are that much tougher than the average, being that 59% of missions succeed while 54% of Collector missions succeed.


Bioware didn't give us any numbers to compare consumables usage, number of revives, or mission times between factions. Success isn't the only metric to measure difficulty.

 

Good point too. ;)

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Air Quotes wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

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Will not kill you as much as Geth bugs. DR is annoying - true. Goes without saying. 


It's nice that you think that and all...

but I didn't actually say that Cerberus bugs would be the most hazardous to your personal health, just that they were the buggiest faction(which I do stand by that statement if you are counting all bugs, not just the ones that you want to).

Though the Nemesis triple tap is pretty deadly even if it doesn't happen as often as the rocket one.

As is Phantom DR for the host and projectiles hitting you through walls.

 

Never seen a Nemesis triple tap. That never happened to me.  

And by buggiest faction I think we all have in mind that those bugs KILL you the most. I don't really care if that Husk has one arm instead of two. But I do care when a Pyro can flame me across 3 football stadiums. 


Just like I've never been sync killed after standing back up from being killed by a Seeker Swarm =P

As I said above if we're talking about bugs most likely to kill players, then Collectors take it imo.

3 rockets aren't going to wipe out an entire group.

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youtu.be/vYwGEseAuAE

My reaction to Geth. 


You also watch Waldodude?!?!

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Cyonan wrote...

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Cyonan wrote...

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Will not kill you as much as Geth bugs. DR is annoying - true. Goes without saying. 


It's nice that you think that and all...

but I didn't actually say that Cerberus bugs would be the most hazardous to your personal health, just that they were the buggiest faction(which I do stand by that statement if you are counting all bugs, not just the ones that you want to).

Though the Nemesis triple tap is pretty deadly even if it doesn't happen as often as the rocket one.

As is Phantom DR for the host and projectiles hitting you through walls.

 

Never seen a Nemesis triple tap. That never happened to me.  

And by buggiest faction I think we all have in mind that those bugs KILL you the most. I don't really care if that Husk has one arm instead of two. But I do care when a Pyro can flame me across 3 football stadiums. 


Just like I've never been sync killed after standing back up from being killed by a Seeker Swarm =P

As I said above if we're talking about bugs most likely to kill players, then Collectors take it imo.

3 rockets aren't going to wipe out an entire group.

 

I don't think excesive nades, abomination splosions and laz0rs + seeker combo are "bugs" but they are OP and annoying a crap. 

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youtu.be/vYwGEseAuAE

My reaction to Geth. 


You also watch Waldodude?!?!

 

Yeah. I watch DildoDude :P

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Air Quotes wrote...

TBLKNIGHT wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

youtu.be/vYwGEseAuAE

My reaction to Geth. 


You also watch Waldodude?!?!

 

Yeah. I watch DildoDude :P


Hopefully he comes back soon. Those screams man....I can't live without them lol

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I don't think excesive nades, abomination splosions and laz0rs + seeker combo are "bugs" but they are OP and annoying a crap. 


A Praetorian firing lasers out of his butt or through solid objects is a bug, though =P