Xilizhra wrote...
The Reapers were under mind control the entire time; none of their actions were their own choice. They shouldn't be killed out of hand.
Husks and Cannibals and Marauders were not acting of their own free will either. Is it wrong to kill them? How are the Reapers different?
I think Mordin said it best. "
No glands, replaced by tech. No digestive system, replaced by tech. No soul, replaced by tech."
Xilizhra wrote...
Far safer when the Reapers are on the defensive, which I will ensure that they will be.
Shepard can't guarantee that, because Shepard does not survive Control.
In Control the fate of the galaxy is placed in the 'hands' of an A.I. entity that merely mimics Shepard's personality. It is Catalyst 2.0. How can Shepard guarantee that this A.I. will not one day reach the same conclusions of the A.I. replaced, leading to a renewed war and perphaps the end of the galactic civilization?
Xilizhra wrote...
HanShotFirst wrote..
As for the Geth, they are not murdered. Murder requires intent, and the intent of destroy is never to annihilate the Geth. It occurs as an unitended consequence of destroying the Reapers. It is a horrifying example of collateral damage, but it isn't murder or genocide.
Semantic whining to justify atrocity. It means nothing. You made a deliberate choice knowing that it would kill them all; it was indeed genocide.
No, it is hyperbole without any basis in fact.
What happens in Destroy doesn't meet the legal definition of genocide. Furthermore the destruction of an entity that has annihilated countless civilizations and was in the process of destroying humanity, constitutes military necessity.
Xilizhra wrote...
HanShotFirst wrote...
Also the destruction of the Reapers, even it it comes at the cost of the Geth, constitutes military necessity. No single
'species' is worth more than the continued existence of galactic civilization, and Destroy is the only ending which guarantees that. Control and Synthesis pose too great a risk that the Cayalyst or Catalyst 2.0 will one day determine that the space faring civilizations need once again to be destroyed. An armistice with the Reapers is too great a gamble with the galaxy's future. Nothing less than total victory in the Reaper War will suffice, and in that Destroy is the only ending that delivers.
The galaxy will continue to exist in all three endings. Wiping out synthetics is not military necessity because you can win in two other ways, it's just your own paranoia leading you to ensure that other people are sacrificed for your precious organic status quo.
Synthesis and Control aren't wins. They are stalemates.
In those two endings the Reaper War ends with a cease fire. The Reapers remain unvanquished and maintain a fully intact fleet, with which they have the ability to annihilate galactic civilization at anytime. In both scenarios they are also still rulled by some form of a Catalyst. In the case of Synthesis, they are still ruled over by the very Catalyst that created the Reapers to begin with and began the cycles of mass extinctions.
In both scenarios the galaxy is being asked to trust that neither version of the Catalyst will not one day unleash its minions on the galaxy and begin the war anew. That is far too big of a gamble with the galaxy's furture in my opinion, and quite frankly wrong for Shepard to even ask the rest of the galaxy to trust the Reapers or either version of the Catalyst. On some level it is a betrayal of the trust that galaxy placed in Shepard to secure their future. It is also a failure of his mission.
Xilizhra wrote...
No. There's continuation of consciousness and identity. The format is different, but the persona has transferred and is the same, just vastly expanded.
That is at odds both with what the Catalys tells Shepard, and with the narraration of the Control epilogue.
The Catalys tells Shepard that he or she will die. Death is a permanent end of consciousness. If Shepard's consciousness and identity continues to live in some other form, he or she hasn't truly died. The virtual aliens didn't die when they uploaded their consciousness to shape ship, they merely transferred their 'minds' to another vessel.
The Shepard Catalyst also refers to Shepard as if he or she were a different entity.
At any rate even if Shepard's consciousness were somehow uploaded to the Citadel to become Catalyst 2.0 it still isn't truly Shepard, any more than the Human Reaper was Chakwas or Kelly Chambers or any other organic mind used to create it. Catalyst 2.0 or the Sheplyst or whatever you want to call it, is a Reaper. It isn't human.
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