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[Dr_Extrem]

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

weapons grade head canon.

[Yestare7]

Enhanced wrote...

For me, Destroy is a deal breaker because the chaos will return

No it won't.
Don't believe the Brat's lies.
Geth and Quarians were able to work it out and live in peace.






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[MattFini]

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

[spirosz]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

weapons grade head canon.

[Steelcan]

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

. You truly are determined not to give an inch to Destroy.

[Dr_Extrem]

Steelcan wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

. You truly are determined not to give an inch to Destroy.

or sanity

[GreyLycanTrope]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

weapons grade head canon.

Actaully that does make sense.
Think about it, we see Shepard running towards the conduit in say Inferno armor, but after getting shot by Harby we see them charred N7 armor for the duration of the game. The only logical conclusion was that the clone was hiding amongst the alliance soldiers and replaced the real one after Harby vaporized him/her with the beam.

This also explains why Shepard feels like a completly different character for you and me in the ending, it's not our Shepard, it's the clone.

[crimzontearz]

Uh.....the clone's n7 tag was blue not red, the scene plays exactly the same without the dlc installed

[Steelcan]

crimzontearz wrote...

Uh.....the clone's n7 tag was blue not red, the scene plays exactly the same without the dlc installed

. Woah woah woah.  We not apply things like 'logic' here.

[GreyLycanTrope]

crimzontearz wrote...

Uh.....the clone's n7 tag was blue not red, the scene plays exactly the same without the dlc installed

It's red cause of the blood

[HolyAvenger]

IMO, Shepard should die in all the endings. Sacrificing one's life to stop the end of all galactic civilization seems...fitting. And I say this as someone whose first choice is definitely high-EMS Destroy.

[ManOfSteel]

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

It's Shepard.

crimzontearz wrote...

Uh.....the clone's n7 tag was blue not red, the scene plays exactly the same without the dlc installed

The clone's stripe and badge can be red or blue.

Modifié par DoomHK, 18 mars 2013 - 01:43 .

[Yestare7]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

. You truly are determined not to give an inch to Destroy.

or sanity

or plain common sense

[crimzontearz]

That does it....I am gonna go back to playing crysis 3....and dream ME3 had a similarly CLEAR freaking ending so I would not have to deal with this much speculation

[crimzontearz]

DoomHK wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

It's Shepard.

crimzontearz wrote...

Uh.....the clone's n7 tag was blue not red, the scene plays exactly the same without the dlc installed

The clone's stripe and badge can be red or blue.

Yes and the clone's tag was BLUE for me...while my Shepard's is red...soooo....yeah

[Clayless]

He dies in Destroy anyway, that was his last breath, I couldn't choose genocide just for that.

[ManOfSteel]

crimzontearz wrote...

Yes and the clone's tag was BLUE for me...while my Shepard's is red...soooo....yeah

Okay.

[Sundance31us]

Don't know about anyone else's game, but in mine the clone went head first into the side of a building without a helmet.

Now if I wanted to find a way to keep Shepard alive by using the clone there are better way to do it than saying it's the clone in the rubble.

[Kais Endac]

Maybe Bioware should have just added an option in the options menu that allowed players to decide if Shepard would live in any ending (i.e enabling it would allow Shepard to live and show a cutscene of him recovering in hospital or something).

This way those who want him to die will simply leave the option off and those that want him to live will enable it - everyone's happy and no one is forced into an ending they don't want(well except those who dislike the themes and inconsistencies in the endings).

Seriously though Destroy is my canon ending because
1). Shepard lives
2). I have spent three games trying to destroy the reapers and the other two options seem out of place because of it.
3). The other two endings are just as morally dubious

The problem with destroy (for me at least) is the fact that the whole situation with the Geth and EDI feels more forced than anything to even out the endings. The crucible is an immensely powerful device capable of well... the whole control and synthesis thing, which would ultimately either allow Shepard to control the reapers or merge the gap between synthetics and organics. Yet it's incapable of distinguishing between the reapers and those synthetics (yes the Geth/EDI have reaper code but still...)

[Nerevar-as]

HolyAvenger wrote...

IMO, Shepard should die in all the endings. Sacrificing one's life to stop the end of all galactic civilization seems...fitting. And I say this as someone whose first choice is definitely high-EMS Destroy.

No. Overdone and pointless. "From the Wreckage" had it right. Angst by the sake of it doesn´t make art, and Shepard´s deaths were already very forced. Not to mention that the Reapers survive in more endings than Shepard. I know not to look for hidden motives where simple stupidity explain things, but it does look they were looking to sabotage the franchise.

[crimzontearz]

Robosexual wrote...

He dies in Destroy anyway, that was his last breath, I couldn't choose genocide just for that.

Project Lead said the opposite but whatever floats your boat

[Yestare7]

Seriously though Destroy is my canon ending because
1). Shepard lives
2). I have spent three games trying to destroy the reapers and the other two options seem out of place because of it.
3). The other two endings are just as morally dubious
 

Good!   Let's get this thread back on the rails.





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[crimzontearz]

Kais Endac wrote...

Maybe Bioware should have just added an option in the options menu that allowed players to decide if Shepard would live in any ending (i.e enabling it would allow Shepard to live and show a cutscene of him recovering in hospital or something).

This way those who want him to die will simply leave the option off and those that want him to live will enable it - everyone's happy and no one is forced into an ending they don't want(well except those who dislike the themes and inconsistencies in the endings).

Seriously though Destroy is my canon ending because
1). Shepard lives
2). I have spent three games trying to destroy the reapers and the other two options seem out of place because of it.
3). The other two endings are just as morally dubious

The problem with destroy (for me at least) is the fact that the whole situation with the Geth and EDI feels more forced than anything to even out the endings. The crucible is an immensely powerful device capable of well... the whole control and synthesis thing, which would ultimately either allow Shepard to control the reapers or merge the gap between synthetics and organics. Yet it's incapable of distinguishing between the reapers and those synthetics (yes the Geth/EDI have reaper code but still...)

I have advocated this before, some people seem to see the EXISTENCE of the option as soiling the purity of their choice of sacrifice or some such bull****.


 
Oh and of course, that would not be artsy enough

[HolyAvenger]

Nerevar-as wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

IMO, Shepard should die in all the endings. Sacrificing one's life to stop the end of all galactic civilization seems...fitting. And I say this as someone whose first choice is definitely high-EMS Destroy.

No. Overdone and pointless. "From the Wreckage" had it right. Angst by the sake of it doesn´t make art, and Shepard´s deaths were already very forced. Not to mention that the Reapers survive in more endings than Shepard. I know not to look for hidden motives where simple stupidity explain things, but it does look they were looking to sabotage the franchise.

Who said anything about art? ME3 was a very dark story, about civilization hanging on by its fingertips in the face of overwhelming might. To have Shepard sacrifice him or herself to stop that befits the feeling of the game, to me. Its hardly overdone (list me games that end in a necessary death of the protagonist?), and in no way pointless.

I won't even touch the conspiracy theory

Let me be clear- I do not like the endings, for the Starbrat and all the narrative flaws it imposes. But Shepard having a "happy" ending would have felt extremely out of place to me at the end of the game.

[Auld Wulf]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

weapons grade head canon.

If you want to delude yourself, then yes.

1. The clone's body is never found.
2. The clone wears N7 armour.
3. Most Shepard characters won't wear N7 armour because other armour has better stats.

This is all canon. Please think about it instead of snapping back. Now...

4. The Citadel explodes violently, the last time Shepard was in an exploding space structure most of her body had to be rebuilt by Cerberus.
5. "Shepard" in N7 armour is shown breathing. Somehow unharmed.

Now, again... let it sit. Think on it. Just... let it percolate.

Tell me again how this is headcanon?