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[HolyAvenger]

Auld Wulf wrote...

3. Most Shepard characters won't wear N7 armour because other armour has better stats.

This is all canon.

LOLWUT

[Yestare7]

@Crimzontearz:

1. destroy ending - breathe dammit!
2. hospital time
3. Party time from citadel DLC

Good ending, and ofcourse the brat lied about EDI and the Geth being wiped out.
(no-brainer!)

[Auld Wulf]

crimzontearz wrote...

Yes and the clone's tag was BLUE for me...while my Shepard's is red...soooo....yeah

For you. But it can still be blue or red. Which means that my point stands.

[Yestare7]

@Auld Wolf: you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
In some places this is considered "trolling"


why don't you take your clown theory to its own thread,
then we can all ignore you over there.

Modifié par Yestare7, 18 mars 2013 - 02:11 .

[HolyAvenger]

Kais Endac wrote...

Maybe Bioware should have just added an option in the options menu that allowed players to decide if Shepard would live in any ending (i.e enabling it would allow Shepard to live and show a cutscene of him recovering in hospital or something). 

Too much metagaming/immersion-breaking for me.

[Auld Wulf]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

3. Most Shepard characters won't wear N7 armour because other armour has better stats.

This is all canon.

LOLWUT

Was your Shepard wearing N7 armour at the end?

[wright1978]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

The problem is is that we can't prove it's not the clone that survived. The clone was wearing N7 armour, and Shepard most likely isn't, so it's even more likely that the clone survives in Destroy.

. You truly are determined not to give an inch to Destroy.

or sanity

He reminds  me of a young puppy chasing his tale.

[crimzontearz]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

IMO, Shepard should die in all the endings. Sacrificing one's life to stop the end of all galactic civilization seems...fitting. And I say this as someone whose first choice is definitely high-EMS Destroy.

No. Overdone and pointless. "From the Wreckage" had it right. Angst by the sake of it doesn´t make art, and Shepard´s deaths were already very forced. Not to mention that the Reapers survive in more endings than Shepard. I know not to look for hidden motives where simple stupidity explain things, but it does look they were looking to sabotage the franchise.

Who said anything about art? ME3 was a very dark story, about civilization hanging on by its fingertips in the face of overwhelming might. To have Shepard sacrifice him or herself to stop that befits the feeling of the game, to me. Its hardly overdone (list me games that end in a necessary death of the protagonist?), and in no way pointless.

I won't even touch the conspiracy theory

Let me be clear- I do not like the endings, for the Starbrat and all the narrative flaws it imposes. But Shepard having a "happy" ending would have felt extremely out of place to me at the end of the game.

For you, not for me. Also, with billions dead including  three of his closest friends and his mentor Shepard's ending would not be "happy" even if he survived and got a reunion scene

[Clayless]

crimzontearz wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

He dies in Destroy anyway, that was his last breath, I couldn't choose genocide just for that.

Project Lead said the opposite but whatever floats your boat

Source?

[Auld Wulf]

Yestare7 wrote...

@Auld Wolf: you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
In some places this is considered "trolling"

I'm arguing an entirely valid point. That the scene in Destroy is actually the clone. I genuinely believe this and it's my prerogative. I believe that Destroy fans are deluding themselves.

It's the clone, people.

[crimzontearz]

Auld Wulf wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

3. Most Shepard characters won't wear N7 armour because other armour has better stats.

This is all canon.

LOLWUT

Was your Shepard wearing N7 armour at the end?

you mean like he is always using avengers and predators in cut scenes even tho no ibe ever carries them?

Your idiocy is astounding...either that or you need to troll s lot harder

[MegaSovereign]

o Ventus wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Nykara wrote...

I don't hate the idea of control. It's only a semi death. That is if you want to take the endings at face value anyhows. I am still not so sure about that.

No... quite sure Shepard vaproizes and the only thing carried forward is memories.  Quite dead. Funny since in order to control the prong thing isn't needed. Oh well.

Not dead. There's continuity of identity. Shepalyst says "The man/woman I once was". Pretty clear to me, rather similar to me saying "the child I once was". Shepard has grown out of his/her human shell to become something greater. Ascended, not dead.

"You will die. You will lose everything you have"

"So...the Clone was right afterall"

[HolyAvenger]

crimzontearz wrote...

For you, not for me. Also, with billions dead including  three of his closest friends and his mentor Shepard's ending would not be "happy" even if he survived and got a reunion scene

Well duh, we're just sharing opinions here. No one is right or wrong, per se.

For me, Shepard alive and well, living out in the post-Reaper universe with their LI would have been happy. Any happier and we'd be play Mass Effect: The Romcom.

[Yestare7]

Auld Wulf wrote...
I'm arguing an entirely valid point. That the scene in Destroy is actually the clone. I genuinely believe this and it's my prerogative. I believe that Destroy fans are deluding themselves.

It's the clone, people.

reload......    


why don't you take your clown theory to its own thread, 
then we can all ignore you over there.

[d-boy15]

Auld Wulf wrote...
Was your Shepard wearing N7 armour at the end?

This guy is very funny, keep it coming!

Fun fact: Harbinger beam has side effect which turn any armor you wear in to damaged N7 standard armor.

Modifié par d-boy15, 18 mars 2013 - 02:17 .

[HolyAvenger]

Auld Wulf wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

3. Most Shepard characters won't wear N7 armour because other armour has better stats.

This is all canon.

LOLWUT

Was your Shepard wearing N7 armour at the end?

He sure was. Its the iconic armour. I don't need no stats beat Insanity aka ezymode.

[cerberus1701]

Dendio1 wrote...

Honestly, the fact that shepard will not live in a non-destroy ending really makes it hard for me take non-destroy endings seriously on my playthroughs. I've heard great arguments for synthesis and even control, but for me at least..dead shep is a deal breaker.

Also I really dislike it when bioware sets the characters dialogue to give you false hope. At the end of citadel dlc, Ashely says she knows you'll figure out a way to make it out alive. The only way is destroy...

Not for me. I mean, I totally get what you're saying.

But for me, living Shep is just a bonus. I pick Destroy because because the other two options are patently ridiculous. 

[crimzontearz]

Robosexual wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

He dies in Destroy anyway, that was his last breath, I couldn't choose genocide just for that.

Project Lead said the opposite but whatever floats your boat

Source?

 
Dude WTF do I have to post it again??










Brenon Holmes
07:08 PM 2012-03-05
Hmm... well - we'll have to wait and see them. I'm pretty sure there's a fourth ending, but I was only tangentially involved in a lot of those discussions - so I'm not 100% sure about it .

(maybe it got cut for some reason and I didn't hear about it?)

I don't want to get people's hopes up is all.

I know Preston and Casey wanted a "happy" ending... and the NG+ thing does ring a few bells... I'll poke Preston tomorrow and ask.











Brenon Holmes
11:29 PM 2012-03-05
The 4th one that was being talked about was a happier ending where Shepard lives, everything was going to be relatively positive. No messianic sacrifice stuff, but again... I'm not really in the know. So I wouldn't take that to the bank .

I'll ask tomorrow and get a real answer.









Brenon Holmes
09:40 AM 2012-03-06
So yeah, there's a secret Shepard lives ending - it's not super happy though. It's more like a movie trailer thing where it hints at a sequel (there is no sequel, afaik - I'm just using it to illustrate the type of cinematic).


 
Preston is the lead designer

[Yestare7]

cerberus1701 wrote... Destroy because because the other two options are patently ridiculous. 

True.

[Zazzerka]

Auld Wulf wrote...

I'm arguing an entirely valid point. That the scene in Destroy is actually the clone. I genuinely believe this and it's my prerogative. I believe that Destroy fans are deluding themselves.

It's the clone, people.

You believe it is? I believe it isn't.

Where is your god now?

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 18 mars 2013 - 02:20 .

[crimzontearz]

HolyAvenger wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

For you, not for me. Also, with billions dead including  three of his closest friends and his mentor Shepard's ending would not be "happy" even if he survived and got a reunion scene

Well duh, we're just sharing opinions here. No one is right or wrong, per se.

For me, Shepard alive and well, living out in the post-Reaper universe with their LI would have been happy. Any happier and we'd be play Mass Effect: The Romcom.

would you be opposed to the OPTION for him to survive triggered by an earlier dialogue choice?

[cerberus1701]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...

@Auld Wolf: you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
In some places this is considered "trolling"

I'm arguing an entirely valid point. That the scene in Destroy is actually the clone. I genuinely believe this and it's my prerogative. I believe that Destroy fans are deluding themselves.

It's the clone, people.

Shepard breathing existed before the clone.

[Yestare7]

Clone got smacked face first into a building.

When I kicked him out of my space ship

Modifié par Yestare7, 18 mars 2013 - 02:23 .

[crimzontearz]

Auld Wulf wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Yes and the clone's tag was BLUE for me...while my Shepard's is red...soooo....yeah

For you. But it can still be blue or red. Which means that my point stands.

right and since in all my playthroughs he ALWAYS uses blue tags as opposed to my red ones in MY destroy ending it is NOT the clone

Modifié par crimzontearz, 18 mars 2013 - 02:24 .

[Kais Endac]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Kais Endac wrote...

Maybe Bioware should have just added an option in the options menu that allowed players to decide if Shepard would live in any ending (i.e enabling it would allow Shepard to live and show a cutscene of him recovering in hospital or something). 

Too much metagaming/immersion-breaking for me.

The option would be well...... optional if you don't activate it then you get the standard experience. So it would not effect people who don't want the option however those that *do* want the option can activate it, the hardest part would be justifying how shepard lived.

The thing is though no matter what bioware had done it would have upset some part of the fan base, the fact that there is no "happy" ending upset alot of people but inversely those that like the darker tone of the game will complain that the inclusion of a happy ending ruins aspects of the game. The inclusion of optional content like shepard lives option would have plesed the happy ending crowd and the bittersweet/dark ending crowd would not have to use it since its optional.

Those that dislike the plotholes/inconsitacies/starchild etc I'm not really sure what could have been done about that.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 18 mars 2013 - 02:26 .