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[LTD]

Just sayin

[Blazomancer]

How much bad is 'so' bad? On a scale of 1 to 10?

[Reever]

I just bought it, so I hope you're wrong

[Lintanis]

YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[dedmanwalking]

it is just a stepping stone

[-TC1989-]

In my opinion it's only "bad" if you really try to compare it to Origins pound for pound. DA2 is good if you can enter the game ready to forgive its lacking qualities. The first time I played through the game I was pretty disappointed, but now when I play it I really do enjoy it. Of course it can't compare to Origins...

[Dutchess]

^ I think DA2 is pretty poor by itself as well. I would give it a 4 or a 5 out of 10. 1 by default, one point for the companions, one point for the idea of the friendship/rivalry system (though it needs tweaking), a point for the autodialogue being based on tracked personality (at least it's better than only one version of autodialogue), and if I'm generous, one point for most of the Qunari plot in Act 2.

[Angrywolves]

I would probably give it a 6 or 7 out of 10.. Not a bad game by itself but woefully inadequate to be the official sequel to dragon age.

[LTD]

Even though I think OP is masterfully streamlined message that has everything relevant said as it is, perhaps small expansion of the point can be made.

I am too old to play video games. My overall tastes and requirements related to quality for various bits of entertainment are those of an adult now. Video games are simply too lowbrow and tailor- made for lowest common denominator for me to be able to enjoy them anymore. They are entertainent  made for boys between 14-19 years of age. As a result, they inevitably are dumbest, most annoying  and most childish slice of entertainent you could ever imagine. Unless you are boy between 14 and 19 yrs of age.

Needless to say, above paragraph in itself is stupid, incorrect, narrow minded and mis-informed. Only two video games make me feel I might be correct to say something so absurd. Gears of War and DA2. As a natural, immediate and strong knee-jerk reaction, my hatred of these two are infinite because of that.

Partially I'm of course just plain angry at myself.
Literally every single screenshot of DA2 put ut pre-release looked ****ing horrible. Early preview videos, interviews and hype all spoke of a ****ing annoyig game. It took BW like..what, 5  weeks to make  DA2.  That too, spoke of a bad game. I hated the demo and thought everything in it looked like sh!t. Previous sentence isn't as unconstructive as it initially appears; first 30 mins of this game literally look like sh!t. If EA were to release Digestion Simulator 2013, feces appearing on it would look less like sh!t  than opening chapter of DA2 does.
....And despite ALL THIS some stupid, naive, blind determined fan boy in me ****ing bought the game, eternally dooming my BSN avatar to wear the badge of shame. FU me.


...If we get all boring and objective, it isn't such a bad game at all really. Poster above me has the right of it.. I'd give it like 6- 7  out of 10. But my god how I hate it. Most annoying and pathetic game ever. AARHHH.

Modifié par LTD, 19 mars 2013 - 11:54 .

[kyles3]

I like this game. If it weren't for the repetitive dungeons I'd love it.

[cJohnOne]

LTD- I really don't understand what you mean by DA2 looked bad. Are you referring to the Darkspawn redesigns which were bleh to me? The road looked like a road to me.

[LTD]

^
Well sure, there are plenty of individual decisions and turns made with art style that result in various explorations of bad. Darkspawn you mentioned, turning Flemeth into a character off Anime version of some Disney classic, overall cartoony BS wibe, spending no time or effort at all with most npc textures.. I could go on.

However! When I say 1st 30 mins of gameplay in Dragon Age 2 look like sh!t, I literally mean exactly that. Find a picture of opening sequence of this game and tell me it does not look like sh!t to you. I'd like to stress I use the word in context of describing feces as opposed to more slang oriented implication of lacking quality.

Modifié par LTD, 21 mars 2013 - 09:11 .

[Reever]

Well, I will certainly wait to have the story DLCs so I can play the "full" game. Heard that also helps, especially because it becomes less repetitive with the new missions.

But I want to wait and see if the DLCs come out on Origin and hope for a promo (like now for example, where you can get 50% off of the original price - but only for the main game, so I'd have to pay as much now for some of the DLCs).

But I think the problem is that they have to be bought with Bioware Points... -.-"

[kyles3]

LTD wrote...

However! When I say 1st 30 mins of gameplay in Dragon Age 2 look like sh!t, I literally mean exactly that. Find a picture of opening sequence of this game and tell me it does not look like sh!t to you. I'd like to stress I use the word in context of describing feces as opposed to more slang oriented implication of lacking quality.

This is a fair point. I wouldn't recognize the opening locale as Lothering or even Ferelden if the game hadn't told me that it was. One more corner cut to meet what was really a pretty unreasonable release date.

I'm glad the devs getting all the time they need to work on DA3. 

[Angrywolves]

Are the developers getting all the time they need fo DA3 ? I doubt it. The art style and the repetitve area while bad weren't the major turn off for me. It felt like we were confined to Kirkwall. If they had allowed us to travel to the other cities in the Free Marches it would have been much better.I often felt under whelmed in the game. The events in Kirkwall, while important just don't compare to a Blight. The companions in DA2 seem uninteresting compared to the ones in Origin. I hope Bioware has all the time they need.

[Faust1979]

Angrywolves wrote...

Are the developers getting all the time they need fo DA3 ? I doubt it. The art style and the repetitve area while bad weren't the major turn off for me. It felt like we were confined to Kirkwall. If they had allowed us to travel to the other cities in the Free Marches it would have been much better.I often felt under whelmed in the game. The events in Kirkwall, while important just don't compare to a Blight. The companions in DA2 seem uninteresting compared to the ones in Origin. I hope Bioware has all the time they need.

I thought the problems that faced Kirkwall were more interesting than the blight and the way the story played like a tragic tale about the main character hawk. It was awesome

[kyles3]

I found dealing with darkspawn and the Blight far less compelling than the political machinations in DA:O. DA2 had plenty of that, much of it quite well done. Also: DA2's cast of characters were phenomenal. For me they're the game's chief saving grace.

[wayhell]

DA2 is certainly the least re-played Bioware game I own. Think that probably says it all.

[BrookerT]

Nah, still love DA2. Much more than Origins. It's not a bad game by any stretch of means. I can certainly see it being disappointing to many, but it has too much quality to be called bad.

[Link Ashland 614]

I liked it. Wish there was more than Kirkwall, but overall, I liked it.

[Swordfishtrombone]

There are things I like about the game, and things I hate - the major negative is the repeating environments and recycled maps. You learn the maps by heart before long.

Also the sense of purposelessness is a bit disoconcerting - gathering enough money to participate in an expedition to become wealthy doesn't seem like the sort of thing legends are made of, and even after that, right up until near the end, it's hard to distinguish between side quests and storyline relevant quests. The whole game is like doing a series of sidequests, especially the first time around.


The party banter is very good though, and with a few mods, and the DLC though, the game is much improved. It's not a bad game as such, it just doesn't live up to the expectations set by it's predecessor.

Modifié par Swordfishtrombone, 11 avril 2013 - 06:30 .

[Link Ashland 614]

Always wanted to ask: The DLC of the thief, is it worth it? Never managed to get it

[Swordfishtrombone]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

Always wanted to ask: The DLC of the thief, is it worth it? Never managed to get it

If by "the DLC of the thief" you mean Mark of the Asassin, then I'd say that yes, it's worth getting. It has quite a different feel from Legacy - more NPC interaction, more puzzles. A part that involves sneaking, in a system specially made for that part of the game; kind of a minigame; one that if you don't like, you can skip by choosing another, more combat heavy approach.

The party banter in the mod is quite excellent. I think the DLC is worth the cost.

[Dutchess]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

Always wanted to ask: The DLC of the thief, is it worth it? Never managed to get it

If by "the DLC of the thief" you mean Mark of the Asassin, then I'd say that yes, it's worth getting. It has quite a different feel from Legacy - more NPC interaction, more puzzles. A part that involves sneaking, in a system specially made for that part of the game; kind of a minigame; one that if you don't like, you can skip by choosing another, more combat heavy approach.

The party banter in the mod is quite excellent. I think the DLC is worth the cost.

And I'd say no. Legacy I could recommend, but MotA was let-down. The temporary companion, Tallis, was extremely annoying and the first Bioware companion character I consider to be actually very badly written. Felicia Day's self-insert fanfiction character. 
The stealth system was awkward, and although I give the devs credit for trying to implement it in the game, it was more frustrating to get through than it was worth.
If your Hawke is anti-Qunari, the end-result of the DLC is baffling, and once again, choices are completely meaningless. Everything ends the same no matter what, and Hawke is more incapable than ever when you choose the anti-Qunari option.

[Morbane]

not scottish