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[Admiral Dreck]

I read the whole thing.

And though, you do bring up *some* valid points.

I have to disagree.

[AktyNuria]

oh well, paladin and his snap freeze is my 2nd kit to go with on platinum,
you do it wrong

[Flambrose]

SF+OL is mostly a mook sweeper. Not every tactic in the game relies on maximum armor damage. You have guns to supplement that.

In any case, SF CEs are not nearly the weakest combo.

[Original Twigman]

animeboy12 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Paladin isn't a spectacular kit. It pales in comparison to the damage output of the QME + Talon, its team synergy is only helpful when you have a team of tech guys.

When was the last time you saw a paladin and thought... "yeah... this guy will do real well."

When I'm playing as a Human engineer denoting cyro explosion all over the place.

so... why not do that with inferno grenades? or arc grenades?

The whole cryo splosion thing isn't all that spectacular when you got things like warp+incendiary bugs, and inferno grenade + incendiary ammo combos, or kits like the Geth Soldier that can one cast an atlas like it was an ant under a magnifying glass.

Its only decent with a supporting team. And if you are in a team, you can easily switch to something else much more effective.

[Happy Shepard]

capn233 wrote...

Biotics set of CE's

Actually that is why Snap Freeze pisses off "Biotics 4 Life" people.

It's actually even worse for Tech Combo classes.

Try a HE or MQE with 1-2 Snap Freeze spammers. All game you'll be exploding weak combos while you can't even finish one TB+FE combo. It's a nightmare.

Not saying Snap Freeze is a bad power, though. Just too bugged.

Modifié par Happy Shepard, 18 mars 2013 - 07:09 .

[cgtrfghj7]

Snap Freeze does suck.
->Since the AIU has Snap Freeze as a power, the AIU must also suck.
->Anyone who does well with the AIU, most be an amazing l33t player.
->Buff the AIU. pls.

[Cirvante]

Another point: Firing snap freeze from cloak causes the cloak glitch about 70% of the time when I'm not hosting (cloak doesn't cancel and you get the full cooldown). Proxy mine causes this maybe 5% of the time. Probably less even.

[Saints]

Causing fire one thread at a time. Might what to use snap freeze for that
Now that I think of it; I don't even remember when was the last time I use the Paladin in gold.

[Original Twigman]

Flambrose wrote...

SF+OL is mostly a mook sweeper. Not every tactic in the game relies on maximum armor damage. You have guns to supplement that.

In any case, SF CEs are not nearly the weakest combo.

i said, one of the weakest, not the weakest.

Outright damage might be good, but considering the powers being used, you can match several other powers to get much better effects.

Inferno grenades + Incinerate comes to mind.

Arc grenade + overload vs. shields come to mind

[bogsters23]

[quote]Original Stikman wrote...

The Paladin, isn't a great kit to begin with, 
/quote]

stopped reading after that.

[megawug]

I think this is a thread subtly asking for a buff to the AIU. Nicely played!

Modifié par megawug, 18 mars 2013 - 07:00 .

[TBLKNIGHT]

Did you also get beat with the crazy stick?

[CNevarezN]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Man... I've read alot of threads here that made no sense whatsoever, this one takes the cake and the damn pie.

OP, you just suck with Snap Freeze. That's all.

[Original Twigman]

Admiral Dreck wrote...

I read the whole thing.

And though, you do bring up *some* valid points.

I have to disagree.

most people will. The aesthetic appeal of Cryo explosion after cry explosion blinds people from their veracity

[Cyonan]

Snap Freeze CEs one of the weakest in the game?

You do know they're bugged and do 2x damage to everything, yes?

[CmnDwnWrkn]

1) OP played Paladin and was outscored by a wide margin
2) OP claims it's the character that's mediocre

[painforest]

Don't cryo explosions from snap freeze do 2X the damage? Or is that just on the Paladin?
Either way it doesn't matter much for the AIU since she has no reliable way to detonate.

[Original Twigman]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

1) OP played Paladin and was outscored by a wide margin
2) OP claims it's the character that's mediocre

I think there are plenty of instances where this has never happened.

[Sailears]

0/10, not even raised a smile.

[Arctican]

Cryo Explosions does better against Barriers than Fire Explosions does. Cryo Explosions also does better against Shields than Fire Explosions and Biotic Explosions. Cryo Explosions does better against Armor than Tech Bursts. It's also a better at killing health since it by default does 2X the damage, which can only be matched by Biotic Explosions with certain evolutions.

The thing about Cryo Explosions is that it's good against all defences whereas all the other Explosions have one or two areas where they excel at but fare poorly against other areas.

[Original Twigman]

painforest wrote...

Don't cryo explosions from snap freeze do 2X the damage? Or is that just on the Paladin?
Either way it doesn't matter much for the AIU since she has no reliable way to detonate.

both, i believe.

Thats the thing, though. They have to be conjoined with something. The paladin setting off his own cryo explosions is slow if you got a fairly heavy gun (harrier, saber, etc.)

I honestly hardly hear anyone i play with say "lets bring a paladin in"

Its mostly for a "lulz spam" match, but seems to have little utility outside of that, considering i'd rather kill things faster with my fury (looking at you biggs)

[Original Twigman]

_only1biggs_ wrote...

but...135% more damage to chilled and frozen targets with incinerate alone, weapons and other sources 35%. i guarantee i would outscore your fury with a paladin. you suck stikman!

I accept your challenge. you will be dissapoint, son

[mistervirginia]

just gonna say that it is my opinion that the kits wielding Snap Freeze are not weak kits. not sure why anything else matters.