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xtorma wrote...

These posts are so easily tested. Someone on his platform play a game with him as a paladin, he can play as bsol, or krosol.

why use words when you can use actions. just post the wrapup screen after. I am sure someone who is saying he is full of crap isn't afraid to prove it.


biggs already challenged me, and I accepted

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Original Stikman wrote...

The Paladin, isn't a great kit to begin with


Quit this game.

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Original Stikman wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

The Paladin is a Tech Bomb just waiting to cause destruction. You have to play him very aggresively or else you're bound to die. On Gold he can utterly destroy anything, on Platinum he can pull his own weight. Honestly, I completely ignore Energy Drain and tap out everything else. Hell, I even do Part Melee on his damn shield.

Get out of extraction more if you're fighting on Giant or get out that box if your fighting on Rio and you'll find ot.


I don't see how challenging my competency in the game helps your case considering that I am in the same group as you.


I'm not challenging anything. You're OP just stated that Snap Freeze sucks. I'm telling you (Now I know this will come as a suprise) that you're wrong. VERY wrong in fact. I usually don't say such things but dude, you really dropped the ball on this one.

I honestly don't know what you're doing wrong where SF is sucking hard for you but my God....Man... I'm going to smoke a cig -.-

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StUnNeR H2K wrote...

Troll post of the day.



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Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Causing fire one thread at a time. Might what to use snap freeze for that :P
Now that I think of it; I don't even remember when was the last time I use the Paladin in gold.


aside from ashen earth, I haven't seen anyone willingly taking a paladin into gold or platinum.


I use paladin in gold alot,  can do a nice chain of techs usally dont spec fitness

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thanks for the post OP, all valid opinions.

I see it differently however. I have easily topped the score board with Paladin and AIU, many a time. Slowing or freezing a target, let alone armor weakening are big bonuses.

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CNevarezN wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

The Paladin is a Tech Bomb just waiting to cause destruction. You have to play him very aggresively or else you're bound to die. On Gold he can utterly destroy anything, on Platinum he can pull his own weight. Honestly, I completely ignore Energy Drain and tap out everything else. Hell, I even do Part Melee on his damn shield.

Get out of extraction more if you're fighting on Giant or get out that box if your fighting on Rio and you'll find ot.


I don't see how challenging my competency in the game helps your case considering that I am in the same group as you.


I'm not challenging anything. You're OP just stated that Snap Freeze sucks. I'm telling you (Now I know this will come as a suprise) that you're wrong. VERY wrong in fact. I usually don't say such things but dude, you really dropped the ball on this one.

I honestly don't know what you're doing wrong where SF is sucking hard for you but my God....Man... I'm going to smoke a cig -.-


its an easy power to figure out... just hit snap freeze and have someone else detonate. I didn't say it sucks for me.

I said it sux and is overhyped

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Original Stikman wrote...

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I feel like trying the Paladin now to see if it really suxs. Did you get this opinion off of pugs?


didn't say Paladin sux, said he isn't all that great, especially on his own.

I said snap freeze sux, considering that it is overhyped

Right. Snap freeze sux. Not Paladin. Hmm... Debuff is ok, if you are the Paladin you would like that it primes a lot of things, it has the bug for rank 6, it kinda staggers, ect. It's not that great but it does not sux either.

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Stathis1992 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The Paladin, isn't a great kit to begin with


Quit this game.


I will in a month or two. Getting tired of it.

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Original Stikman wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

The Paladin is a Tech Bomb just waiting to cause destruction. You have to play him very aggresively or else you're bound to die. On Gold he can utterly destroy anything, on Platinum he can pull his own weight. Honestly, I completely ignore Energy Drain and tap out everything else. Hell, I even do Part Melee on his damn shield.

Get out of extraction more if you're fighting on Giant or get out that box if your fighting on Rio and you'll find ot.


I don't see how challenging my competency in the game helps your case considering that I am in the same group as you.


I'm not challenging anything. You're OP just stated that Snap Freeze sucks. I'm telling you (Now I know this will come as a suprise) that you're wrong. VERY wrong in fact. I usually don't say such things but dude, you really dropped the ball on this one.

I honestly don't know what you're doing wrong where SF is sucking hard for you but my God....Man... I'm going to smoke a cig -.-


its an easy power to figure out... just hit snap freeze and have someone else detonate. I didn't say it sucks for me.

I said it sux and is overhyped


I bet an AIU or paladin outscored you with a ridiculous score difference and you are raging like a baby for snap freeze.

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Original Stikman wrote...

Stathis1992 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The Paladin, isn't a great kit to begin with


Quit this game.


I will in a month or two. Getting tired of it.


Good, one less ignorant, you won't be missed.

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Not sure if mentioned, but all cryo explosions involving snap freeze do 2x damage. That's what makes snap freeze strong, even if it is a bug.

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Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

I feel like trying the Paladin now to see if it really suxs. Did you get this opinion off of pugs?


didn't say Paladin sux, said he isn't all that great, especially on his own.

I said snap freeze sux, considering that it is overhyped

Right. Snap freeze sux. Not Paladin. Hmm... Debuff is ok, if you are the Paladin you would like that it primes a lot of things, it has the bug for rank 6, it kinda staggers, ect. It's not that great but it does not sux either.


I used sux as hyperbole because people love to focus on things like that.

It really isn't that great, and is very much overhyped

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RedJohn wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Causing fire one thread at a time. Might what to use snap freeze for that :P
Now that I think of it; I don't even remember when was the last time I use the Paladin in gold.


aside from ashen earth, I haven't seen anyone willingly taking a paladin into gold or platinum.


LOL


very LOL, I carry Wraith on him on gold/platinum and even if I play with my friends I'm rarely not on the top of the scoreboard  :huh: 
The fact that you don't know how to play with him doesn't mean that it is a weak kit.

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Original Stikman wrote...

xtorma wrote...

These posts are so easily tested. Someone on his platform play a game with him as a paladin, he can play as bsol, or krosol.

why use words when you can use actions. just post the wrapup screen after. I am sure someone who is saying he is full of crap isn't afraid to prove it.


biggs already challenged me, and I accepted


Awsome, I know biggs is just as skilled if not more from vaders vids. Good luck to both. The discussion will only get better afterward.

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Stathis1992 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Stathis1992 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The Paladin, isn't a great kit to begin with


Quit this game.


I will in a month or two. Getting tired of it.


Good, one less ignorant, you won't be missed.


please, you couldn't keep up if you tried

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Oh well, this thread counterbalances the one where the OP was saying how awesome the Turian Saboteur was.
:lol:

Modifié par megawug, 18 mars 2013 - 07:26 .


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_only1biggs_ wrote...

but...135% more damage to chilled and frozen targets with incinerate alone, weapons and other sources 35%. i guarantee i would outscore your fury with a paladin. you suck stikman!


I accept your challenge. you will be dissapoint, son


hahaha! time please, you're a*s hole belongs to me! anyone want to spectate this? just bring your bibs, it's gonna get real messy

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Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

I feel like trying the Paladin now to see if it really suxs. Did you get this opinion off of pugs?


didn't say Paladin sux, said he isn't all that great, especially on his own.

I said snap freeze sux, considering that it is overhyped

Right. Snap freeze sux. Not Paladin. Hmm... Debuff is ok, if you are the Paladin you would like that it primes a lot of things, it has the bug for rank 6, it kinda staggers, ect. It's not that great but it does not sux either.


I used sux as hyperbole because people love to focus on things like that.

It really isn't that great, and is very much overhyped


That was your problem, 'overrated' in no way shape or form = sucks.  If you say something sucks you will be taken to task for the use of that word.

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xtorma wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

xtorma wrote...

These posts are so easily tested. Someone on his platform play a game with him as a paladin, he can play as bsol, or krosol.

why use words when you can use actions. just post the wrapup screen after. I am sure someone who is saying he is full of crap isn't afraid to prove it.


biggs already challenged me, and I accepted


Awsome, I know biggs is just as skilled if not more from vaders vids. Good luck to both. The discussion will only get better afterward.


We'll find out. To be honest, i don't think biggs would win, considering that the Paladin on his own is just not that great, while the fury is exceptionally good on her own.

I've played with biggs long enough to know that I won't judge him for using the paladin vs. my fury Image IPB

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Original Stikman wrote...

Stathis1992 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Stathis1992 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The Paladin, isn't a great kit to begin with


Quit this game.


I will in a month or two. Getting tired of it.


Good, one less ignorant, you won't be missed.


please, you couldn't keep up if you tried


I can start trolling you until tomorrow, don't even dare to challenge people you don't know.

Modifié par Stathis1992, 18 mars 2013 - 07:26 .


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I will give Stikman this ... he is doggedly sticking to this point in the face of all adversity.

For the record, I frequently play the Paladin in Gold and Platinum, and I sleep just fine at night.

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Same could be said about Warp or Reave man. Actually it has the same concept. Let's take the Justicar for example.... She runs up in the enemy group like rambo, throws up a bubble, dodges back, reaves. BOOM! Or Reave, then Bubble, BOOM!

Paladin; Rolls up on the enemy group, SF's, Juke's and Jive's, Inc!. Cryo Explosion!

See where this is going?

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Beerfish wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

I feel like trying the Paladin now to see if it really suxs. Did you get this opinion off of pugs?


didn't say Paladin sux, said he isn't all that great, especially on his own.

I said snap freeze sux, considering that it is overhyped

Right. Snap freeze sux. Not Paladin. Hmm... Debuff is ok, if you are the Paladin you would like that it primes a lot of things, it has the bug for rank 6, it kinda staggers, ect. It's not that great but it does not sux either.


I used sux as hyperbole because people love to focus on things like that.

It really isn't that great, and is very much overhyped


That was your problem, 'overrated' in no way shape or form = sucks.  If you say something sucks you will be taken to task for the use of that word.


its easy to underestimate people and assume they have little prescience

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Original Stikman wrote...

animeboy12 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Paladin isn't a spectacular kit. It pales in comparison to the damage output of the QME + Talon, its team synergy is only helpful when you have a team of tech guys.

When was the last time you saw a paladin and thought... "yeah... this guy will do real well."


When I'm playing as a Human engineer denoting cyro explosion all over the place.


so... why not do that with inferno grenades? or arc grenades?

The whole cryo splosion thing isn't all that spectacular when you got things like warp+incendiary bugs, and inferno grenade + incendiary ammo combos, or kits like the Geth Soldier that can one cast an atlas like it was an ant under a magnifying glass.

Its only decent with a supporting team. And if you are in a team, you can easily switch to something else much more effective.



Because I played with grenades the entire week and want to try something different?

 D*mn, this is not a competition, you are not obligated to use the kit with bigger DPS or whatever. Paladin is more than effective, that's what matter. There's better kits? Cool, Paladin still rocks. He have good resistence, an attack that can paralize an entire group of mobs in front of you (and procede to explode it), melee with cryo/fire effect, dat Drain Energy... D*mn, did you played it against geth? The prime stopped shooting me and said "this is not fair".


 but who cares about my opinion, I think that even pull is good. **** me, right? It's all about DPS <_<