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[upinya slayin]

jkthunder wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...


i wasn't gonna post in this thread but then i seen you and figured i'd work on my flirting mastery sooooo.. sup girl

Pretty sure that counts towards stalker mastery... again

story of my life:innocent:

[UnknownMercenary]

FatalionPanic wrote...

Why is no-one mentioning that he does not one-hit every marauder/engineer/phantom all the time.
how is this possible under the aspect of cheating? Do you guys think he's turning the cheat on and off?

Watch the Phantom one-hit kills closely, for example: he's fully buffed up with Rage + 75% HM boost BUT that's not the only thing that comes into play here
The Phantoms DR must drop dramatically in the moment they open up for a range attack/melee/sync - check the video at 20:40 for the phantom kill. Which is new to me, I didn't know that.

at 23:20 he hits a Phantom while boosted up to his teeth when it's doing a flip and the Phantom doesn't even care and only loses 4 bars of it's barrier - did he forget to press his mysterious "cheat-button"? ... I don't think so.

I don't think he can be cheating at that one moment then not cheating at the other in the same match. For me Link is legit.

I can't watch the video at the moment, but those times when he kills phantoms in one hit, are they standing on ramps or recently flipped? That nullifies host DR (only for a fraction of a second in the case of flips). Didn't see if RedJohn finished his off host test yet.

[Feneckus]

FatalionPanic wrote...

at 23:20 he hits a Phantom while boosted up to his teeth when it's doing a flip and the Phantom doesn't even care and only loses 4 bars of it's barrier - did he forget to press his mysterious "cheat-button"? ... I don't think so.

Phantoms get 90% damage reduction when they flip.

Even with 0% DR, he shouldn't be able to OHK them.

Obvious cheat couldn't be more obvious.

How many proofs do we need to provide ? 

[jakenou]

RedJohn wrote...

I have a question, anyone of you has been on Link's host?


I have while he is not recording, therefore with good FPS, but I would like to know if any one of you have been on his host.

Have you?

Edit - I think I have? Don't remember if he was recording any of the times (but he uses MSI now, which has negligible performance hit, even on a slower machine), but I don't remember anything out of the ordinary. The last couple of times we tried, neither of us could join each others lobby, but it was at a time when Origin was going crazy and not letting me or a lot of other people join each other.

Modifié par jkthunder, 19 mars 2013 - 08:58 .

[Stimpo]

Ya I'm not really sure what the argument is there. So when the phantom has 90% DR he takes out half of its barrier, and when everyone else tests in the same circumstances WITHOUT 90% DR, the phantom still has 1 barrier bar. How is that not even more damning?

[jakenou]

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

I have a question, anyone of you has been on Link's host?


I have while he is not recording, therefore with good FPS, but I would like to know if any one of you have been on his host.

Have you?

I have, multiple times. There's not much I can tell you though, as when I play on his host I lag so much than I can barely notice anything else. Not his host's fault really, my connection is quite crap and there's an ocean between us.

Make that a few seas, a strait, a gulf and an ocean (to be exact)

[capn233]

RedJohn wrote...

I will try to do run like that using my GF's laptop, the game runs there at 60 FPS.

It's pretty difficult.

Actually the above example isn't really the most blatant since he is running a circuit around a wall which robs enemies of LOS.  I mean at least sometimes.  You do notice he can run past them and make it to the wall, which is the point.

If you are out in the open on Giant it should be very noticeable.  Play Reapers and notice the difference in Phaeston fire.

Part of it is that when one enemy scores a hit, they are practically data-linked and everyone else will start hitting you.  Hence if you delay when the first one can score a hit, you prevent the rest from hitting (some hyperbole... actually it changes your targeting priority).

A Marauder Phaeston M will kill all but the tankiest characters relatively rapidly with hits.

Modifié par capn233, 19 mars 2013 - 08:52 .

[Bechter]

RedJohn wrote...

Bechter wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Great job Link.

Because of you there will always be doubts about PC players' achievements. 

I've always doubted the PC achievements.

Bunch of hackers:devil:

Missile Glitchers, all of you 

Took me a while to beat platinum after that patch

[RedJohn]

capn233 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

I will try to do run like that using my GF's laptop, the game runs there at 60 FPS.

It's pretty difficult.

Actually the above example isn't really the most blatant since he is running a circuit around a wall which robs enemies of LOS.  I mean at least sometimes.  You do notice he can run past them and make it to the wall, which is the point.

If you are out in the open on Giant it should be very noticeable.  Play Reapers and notice the difference in Phaeston fire.

Part of it is that when one enemy scores a hit, they are practically data-linked and everyone else will start hitting you.  Hence if you delay when the first one can score a hit, you prevent the rest from hitting (some hyperbole... actually it changes your targeting priority).

A Marauder Phaeston M will kill all but the tankiest characters relatively rapidly with hits.

I know what you say, but I want to try the same on the same place but with a Drell spec'd for max speed with adrenalines and stuff

[jakenou]

Bechter wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Bechter wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Great job Link.

Because of you there will always be doubts about PC players' achievements. 

I've always doubted the PC achievements.

Bunch of hackers:devil:

Missile Glitchers, all of you 

Took me a while to beat platinum after that patch

It all makes sense now. The patch supposedly stopped missile glitching (in retrospect, only for what... 3 days?), and all of a sudden the scrubs start coming out with speedrun strategies. It's all so very clear no!

[capn233]

RedJohn wrote...

I know what you say, but I want to try the same on the same place but with a Drell spec'd for max speed with adrenalines and stuff

Well naturally faster movement speed makes it easier for you to evade.

And actually latency plays to your advantage there, so Drell w/ Adrenaline III should get hit less off host than on host, if you keep moving.

[FatalionPanic]

Stimpo wrote...

Ya I'm not really sure what the argument is there. So when the phantom has 90% DR he takes out half of its barrier, and when everyone else tests in the same circumstances WITHOUT 90% DR, the phantom still has 1 barrier bar. How is that not even more damning?

OK let's say a so called "legit hit" takes away 9 barrier bars, when flipping 90% DR means he will only take away 1 bar - or is my calculation off here? 

9/100*90=8,1
9-8,1=0,9 ~1

It's simple, the Phantom by what we've seen in the video documentation, has 3 different types of defense
90% DR when flipping
>=0% (X amount) DR when not attacking
<=0% (X amount) DR when attacking

so Phantoms can in fact get onehit by that HM charge (Backhand)

[Feneckus]

FatalionPanic wrote...

so Phantoms can in fact get onehit by that HM charge (Backhand)

No.

With Link's setup, I couldn't even onehit marauders.

They have 4607 combined health/shields. And no damage reduction.

Phantoms have 6192 and always have some kind of DR when they're moving .........

[Stimpo]

it seems like he's trying to say it's possible phantoms have <=0% DR at some point, which would actually have to just be <0% DR. I have no idea if that's possible, but I've never heard any of the testers mention it.

Modifié par Stimpo, 19 mars 2013 - 09:19 .

[StoxRegalia]

What else will we uncover? Feneckus and Annomander's secret platinum duo with reegar AIUs against geth? Stentron isn't a scumbag? Ashen Earth's poetry?

Modifié par Notorious P I G, 19 mars 2013 - 09:20 .

[FatalionPanic]

Feneckus wrote...
[...]
No.

With Link's setup, I couldn't even onehit marauders.

They have 4607 combined health/shields. And no damage reduction.

Phantoms have 6192 and always have some kind of DR when they're moving .........

Well if that's true, please explain to me how can he be
not one-hitting x-mob
and then
one-hitting x-mob in another situation
in one and the same match

is there an op damage hack shortcut he forgets to press sometimes?
that just doesn't add up in my book.

EDIT: spelling

Modifié par FatalionPanic, 19 mars 2013 - 09:22 .

[me0120]

Notorious P I G wrote...

What else will we uncover? Feneckus and Annomander's secret platinum duo with reegar AIUs against geth? Stentron isn't a scumbag? Ashen Earth's poetry?

Find out next week on your favorite soap: BSN.

[AaronEh]

FatalionPanic wrote...

Feneckus wrote...
[...]
No.

With Link's setup, I couldn't even onehit marauders.

They have 4607 combined health/shields. And no damage reduction.

Phantoms have 6192 and always have some kind of DR when they're moving .........

Well if that's true, please explain to me how can he be
not one-hitting x-mob
and then
one-hitting x-mob in another situation
in one and the same match

is there an op damage hack shortcut he forgets to press sometimes?
that just doesn't add up in my book.

EDIT: spelling

Rage and Martial Artist bonuses ...

[capn233]

Notorious P I G wrote...

What else will we uncover? Feneckus and Annomander's secret platinum duo with reegar AIUs against geth? Stentron isn't a scumbag? Ashen Earth's poetry?

All of those things are true / happened.

[Stimpo]

FatalionPanic wrote...

Feneckus wrote...
[...]
No.

With Link's setup, I couldn't even onehit marauders.

They have 4607 combined health/shields. And no damage reduction.

Phantoms have 6192 and always have some kind of DR when they're moving .........

Well if that's true, please explain to me how can he be
not one-hitting x-mob
and then
one-hitting x-mob in another situation
in one and the same match

is there an op damage hack shortcut he forgets to press sometimes?
that just doesn't add up in my book.

EDIT: spelling

Mob has no DR? Hack damage = OHK
Mob has 90% DR? hack damage = no OHK

Sounds like someone just isn't ready to take down their Link poster.

[DHKany]

capn233 wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

What else will we uncover? Feneckus and Annomander's secret platinum duo with reegar AIUs against geth? Stentron isn't a scumbag? Ashen Earth's poetry?

All of those things are true / happened.

My dreams are crushed. 

[FatalionPanic]

Stimpo wrote...

[...]
Sounds like someone just isn't ready to take down their Link poster.

I've played with him while I was hosting, I've seen him play and he was not just above average, he was top tier.
Match was both Krolord, same setup, and he got sync-killed in that match as did I.

From my point of view, he's legit.

Ppl not being able to keep up their rage + martial arts and take down a phantom when it's about to melee your face like he did in one backhand melee doesn't mean it's not possible.

I'll go and try to get this scenario on FRAPS on my own.
If I can't do it I will reconsider.

[capn233]

DHKany wrote...

capn233 wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

What else will we uncover? Feneckus and Annomander's secret platinum duo with reegar AIUs against geth? Stentron isn't a scumbag? Ashen Earth's poetry?

All of those things are true / happened.

My dreams are crushed. 

I'll just leave this here:


If Annomander didn't love the AIU, why did he get 2,000,000 extractions with her?

edit: missing a zero.

Modifié par capn233, 19 mars 2013 - 09:47 .

[DHKany]

capn233 wrote...

DHKany wrote...

capn233 wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

What else will we uncover? Feneckus and Annomander's secret platinum duo with reegar AIUs against geth? Stentron isn't a scumbag? Ashen Earth's poetry?

All of those things are true / happened.

My dreams are crushed. 

I'll just leave this here:


If Annomander didn't love the AIU, why did he get 200000 extractions with her?

I'll be waiting for Anno's response