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Why do Juggs insist on meleeing everything?


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#101
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 The Juggernaught may have a high amount of shields, but those shields are chipped away very quickly due to their slow movement speed and inability to take cover. The shield drain on the heavy melee is essential for surviving on Gold and Platinum as the Juggernaut. 

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You ever put down the shield and have like two of your teammates just stare at it for a good 2 mins? Its funny but I wish it didn't happen so often :P

#103
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It gives my Vorcha something to melt on my giant/plat matches.

#104
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They want the match to take longer.

Seriously, I'm tired of Juggs that do nothing but melee.

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Oh, I only HM stuff that walks up to me. So basically everything.

Then I shoot them in the head with a Crusader.

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TBLKNIGHT wrote...

You ever put down the shield and have like two of your teammates just stare at it for a good 2 mins? Its funny but I wish it didn't happen so often :P

 

I sometimes forget that you can go trough the shield. So I walk around it like an idiot. :lol:

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no please don't put that stupid ass shield down, for the love of my sanity no PLEASE


this, I hate that thing, unless there is a turret, ravager, or boss already destroying the team and you need it to revive them or save your life, don't use it. the sheild hinders our team as much as the enemy if you spam it.

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Boretsky wrote...

shadowkinz wrote...

no please don't put that stupid ass shield down, for the love of my sanity no PLEASE


this, I hate that thing, unless there is a turret, ravager, or boss already destroying the team and you need it to revive them or save your life, don't use it. the sheild hinders our team as much as the enemy if you spam it.

 

The little one is okay. The large one can be problematic I agree, 

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Nigh immortality man, just because theyre at full shields and health doesnt mean they should stop force choking things.

 

Just shoot and kill stuff faster rather than slugging all over the map for melee grabs. 


You haven't played with someone like me. I will do a quick melee to knock them down then use my weapon.
Melee really should be used for survivability. I don't see the fun in using it on everything.

PS: I do get a big brother syndrome when using him. I will go out of my way to distract sync- kill enemies.


This is how I play the Juggernaut, as well. I’ll alternate
between melee and my gun for the boss characters (or if I’m low on shields, I’ll
melee whatever I can get), and I will always melee phantoms if possible.

 

 

I think part of the issue is, for those of you complaining
about meleeing phantoms and the like, how many of you consistently PUG? I do it
all the time, and honestly, it’s in the best interest of the team that I take
as many of the sync-kill characters out as possible, because PUGs LOVE to get
taken out; it’s almost a guarantee that if I’m pugging with a Krogan, for
example, that Krogan is going to get sync-killed at least a couple times. For
this reason, I try to distract/kill the greatest sync-kill threat to the team
whenever possible, and this usually means phantoms or banshees.

 

With that being said, people who play the Juggernaut should
DEFINITELY equip a decent gun to use, as well.

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Air Quotes wrote...

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What? I'm just holding them still so my buddy can get a headshot.

IT'S BECAUSE I CARE

 

Awww. Sweet Juggernaut father. Hey look Pyro Trooper, I caught a fish for you. Mind frying it? :lol: The shields are way juicier then. :P


Aaah, my boy. They grow up so fast. Now...how to speak to girls...

#111
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5/6/6/3/6 - shotgun w/50% melee mod. You can go with disciple for more siegpuls/turret spam or Reagar for AE dmg of the tank zone with multiple mobs and setup tech detonations with incendiary ammo - same with the hex shield DOT - more so than protecting the team.

However, like some people have pointed out. If you max melee dmg with Juggernaught Shield in gear slot you will most likely out DPS any gun you could carry.

Turret you throw over your team to give them shield and spot enemies coming from another angle. The only debate is over the 10% dmg boost of your hex shield vs 60% increased frequenzy on your turret shield boost. But I feel it's better to keep the drell infiltrator up than to give me a 10% dmg boost.

The jugg is the ONLY valid melee only build for platinum against boss mobs. Regular troops can be gunned down. And with the frequency of bosses on gold/plat you will be doing melee most of the time if you've positioned yourself properly between the spawns.

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Even when they are in full health they walk around grabbing everything. Just place your freaking shield and shoot dammit. Meeleing is for survivability only not for DPS. 

And sure, go ahead and grab those Phantoms. But don't toy with those troopers. 


Well if you're playing a tanking Juggs, you should be literally surrounded by enemies all the time and thus HAVE to constantly HM.

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Geth Prime: Megatron!!!!!!

Geth Juggernaut: Prime!!!!!!

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Heri wrote...

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Even when they are in full health they walk around grabbing everything. Just place your freaking shield and shoot dammit. Meeleing is for survivability only not for DPS. 

And sure, go ahead and grab those Phantoms. But don't toy with those troopers. 


Well if you're playing a tanking Juggs, you should be literally surrounded by enemies all the time and thus HAVE to constantly HM.

 

Disagree. I say tank when it's beneficial for the team. Tanking all the time vs Troopers just slows things down. Shoot em fast and move on. 

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Because there is this annoying volus that keeps restoring my shields and glitching me.

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Well I'm talking about plat (always forget to mention that), where it's almost certainly the best use of your time to be meleeing bosses and ignoring trash. Sure you can shoot stuff if nothing's in your face, but if your team is playing right and sticking close to you, that probably won't happen all too often.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Heri wrote...

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Even when they are in full health they walk around grabbing everything. Just place your freaking shield and shoot dammit. Meeleing is for survivability only not for DPS. 

And sure, go ahead and grab those Phantoms. But don't toy with those troopers. 


Well if you're playing a tanking Juggs, you should be literally surrounded by enemies all the time and thus HAVE to constantly HM.

 

Disagree. I say tank when it's beneficial for the team. Tanking all the time vs Troopers just slows things down. Shoot em fast and move on. 


I don't think he's talking about tanking a couple of mooks, I think he's talking about on higher waves in Gold/Platinum, where the Juggernaut could theoretically be surrounded by multiple banshees, atlases, dragoons, phantoms, etc. I agree that you shouldn't stand there and melee two Centurions to death, but good luck killing 3 or 4 bosses standing around you, hitting you constantly.

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Because there is this annoying volus that keeps restoring my shields and glitching me.

 

Kssssh "TAKE THAT" :P 

Pay Day for your kinds stunlock upon me Kssssh! :devil:

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Even when they are in full health they walk around grabbing everything. Just place your freaking shield and shoot dammit. Meeleing is for survivability only not for DPS. 

And sure, go ahead and grab those Phantoms. But don't toy with those troopers. 


Well if you're playing a tanking Juggs, you should be literally surrounded by enemies all the time and thus HAVE to constantly HM.

 

Disagree. I say tank when it's beneficial for the team. Tanking all the time vs Troopers just slows things down. Shoot em fast and move on. 


I don't think he's talking about tanking a couple of mooks, I think he's talking about on higher waves in Gold/Platinum, where the Juggernaut could theoretically be surrounded by multiple banshees, atlases, dragoons, phantoms, etc. I agree that you shouldn't stand there and melee two Centurions to death, but good luck killing 3 or 4 bosses standing around you, hitting you constantly.

 

Even then I will Typhoon things faster. I will only meelee when I REALLY need shields. And sometimes I will use an Ops Pack instead of wasting 20 seconds soul stealing a Banshee. 

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#121
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Nah. I go pew, pew, pew when I use the juggernaut.

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I use it only when: I need shields, aggro banshee/atlas etc and soul steal.

Other then that I mainly spam siege pulse and the badass with inc/cryo ammo

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Melee is pretty strong.

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I don't use that tatic, it takes forever to kill enemies on higher difficulties. I actually only use heavy melee when I'm in trouble or when I spot a phantom.

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Even then I will Typhoon things faster. I will only meelee when I REALLY need shields. And sometimes I will use an Ops Pack instead of wasting 20 seconds soul stealing a Banshee. 


If you've got 2+ bosses on you, there's no way you're Typhooning things and still standing. It's a much better use of everyone's time for the Juggernaut to tank everything in sight (only possible with heavy melee) and then have your teammates focus fire bosses down and/or AoE them.