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#126
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SavagelyEpic wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

rlucht wrote...

Dunvi, you really didn't get banned over the ST. Patty's Day riot!? Man, BroJo loves you girl Image IPB


:D

also

@savagelyepic: leave off the potentially-transgender thing, kk? just trust me. focus on the rest.

ETA: WHOOPS WRONG NAME


i would if there was any indication whatsoever that he was being genuine with it, but we all know he's not.


There's plenty of other **** to throw around, I just don't think it's worth it.

#127
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I can't....

Am I playing the same game?

The enemy outnumbers the players by 2:1 for most of the game no? They have multiple units that can absorb sustained gunfire to the head and then kill you immediately by touching you. The battlefield is small. They know where you are. The enemy recieves multiple reinforcements at multiple locations, better weaponry, magical curving projectiles.

You get speed and intelligence.

Use those and win. Use real world strategy and lose.

What did I miss?

#128
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I'm usually not much of a camper on higher difficulties (ie gold, platinum) but this one time I was camping on gold with 3 talon engineers and I was playing with the AIU. The talon mercs use cain mines on all entrances of the camp and I use cloak to finish the objectives on waves 3,6,10 and it was a pretty good game with 5 waves survived and full extraction.

Any other means of camping is for plebs.

#129
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SavagelyEpic wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

rlucht wrote...

Dunvi, you really didn't get banned over the ST. Patty's Day riot!? Man, BroJo loves you girl Image IPB


:D

also

@savagelyepic: leave off the potentially-transgender thing, kk? just trust me. focus on the rest.

ETA: WHOOPS WRONG NAME


i would if there was any indication whatsoever that he was being genuine with it, but we all know he's not.


well, come by the QA blog. Image IPB

#130
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EdAndEinBebop wrote...

speak of the devil...
I randomly joined a game earlier and it happened to be Rio Reaper on platinum and I was using a justicar. So three of us including a juggernaut were hanging around the boxes area but we never went in the box itself and there were this drell infiltrator who decided that having high score is much more important and kept wandering off to the other end of the map so we kept getting surrounded by enemies spawned next to us. On top of that he never helped with the objectives on waves 3 and 6 which were taking down the 4 reaper thingies both of the times and they are ideal for an infiltrator.
so laugh all you want at camping if there is no team play even a game on silver could fail

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BWHAHAHA sure you just hang around the box you don't use it, riiight. Also, if you have a screenshot of him that means you were dead and he was carrying you. Stahp, Rio shamer, you are making it soo much harder for the people who are arguing for camping...

#131
SavagelyEpic

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Dunvi wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

rlucht wrote...

Dunvi, you really didn't get banned over the ST. Patty's Day riot!? Man, BroJo loves you girl Image IPB


:D

also

@savagelyepic: leave off the potentially-transgender thing, kk? just trust me. focus on the rest.

ETA: WHOOPS WRONG NAME


i would if there was any indication whatsoever that he was being genuine with it, but we all know he's not.


There's plenty of other **** to throw around, I just don't think it's worth it.


eh, maybe.

for the record it's not making fun of transgenders - it's calling him out on clearly masquerading as a girl when we know he's not. 

#132
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SavagelyEpic wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

rlucht wrote...

Dunvi, you really didn't get banned over the ST. Patty's Day riot!? Man, BroJo loves you girl Image IPB


:D

also

@savagelyepic: leave off the potentially-transgender thing, kk? just trust me. focus on the rest.

ETA: WHOOPS WRONG NAME


i would if there was any indication whatsoever that he was being genuine with it, but we all know he's not.


There's plenty of other **** to throw around, I just don't think it's worth it.


eh, maybe.

for the record it's not making fun of transgenders - it's calling him out on clearly masquerading as a girl when we know he's not. 


I know, but it's better to avoid the topic entirely in my opinion, than have to clarify that.

ALRIGHT GUYS BACK TO SHAMING THE CAMPERS

Modifié par Dunvi, 19 mars 2013 - 07:53 .


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oh boy, here we go again with this. it's not worth it.

#134
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Cassandra Saturn wrote...

oh boy, here we go again with this. it's not worth it.


By the way, how are you liking the AIU nerf that she so deserved? Image IPB

#135
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i hold a position when playing the talon merc to me that is the smartest way to play him. Actually had a guy talk smack when i held the back of rio (no i didnt box of shame it never have never will) and i outscored everyone play smart and to your taste otherwise youll bring the team down

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It's not healthy to let someone you don't know at all bother you so much. If they irritate you, ignore it. There's no need to advertise how irritated you are.

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I'm not against other folks doing it if they feel they have to, but I just enjoy roaming much more.

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BWHAHAHA sure you just hang around the box you don't use it, riiight. Also, if you have a screenshot of him that means you were dead and he was carrying you. Stahp, Rio shamer, you are making it soo much harder for the people who are arguing for camping...



I died trying to do the objective and yes I let my justicar bleed to death because I simply gave up when an infiltrator refuse to help out with an object that is almost made for them. Do you even know the reason why ppl hang around the boxes? ever heard of taking cover? Its easy for an infiltrator to run around in the open. If you have done the hack job at the LZ on that map then youll know what I am talking about. Also, what I refer to as camping is hanging around one area as opposed to being in one single place at all time camping. A lot of players do that because they may find the area a lot easier to defend.

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Cassandra Saturn wrote...

oh boy, here we go again with this. it's not worth it.


You should make another account.  It'll be easier to troll if people dont know who you are.

#140
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EdAndEinBebop wrote...

speak of the devil...
I randomly joined a game earlier and it happened to be Rio Reaper on platinum and I was using a justicar. So three of us including a juggernaut were hanging around the boxes area but we never went in the box itself and there were this drell infiltrator who decided that having high score is much more important and kept wandering off to the other end of the map so we kept getting surrounded by enemies spawned next to us. On top of that he never helped with the objectives on waves 3 and 6 which were taking down the 4 reaper thingies both of the times and they are ideal for an infiltrator.
so laugh all you want at camping if there is no team play even a game on silver could fail

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
*ahem*, Spectator Mode 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Camping sure seems safe and effective.

#141
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rlucht wrote...

Cassandra Saturn wrote...

oh boy, here we go again with this. it's not worth it.


By the way, how are you liking the AIU nerf that she so deserved? Image IPB


What nerf? all that adjustment was , was a thrown bone to the balance crowd, with not a whole lot of meat left on it.

#142
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Put.... I can't stay still..... And I like killing stuff quickly....

#143
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There's nothing wrong with holding a position, but it's not the fastest way to get things done. If you have the skill to run around and murder everything, then it'll always be faster to do that than camping in one position.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
*ahem*, Spectator Mode 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Camping sure seems safe and effective.





why dont we compare our manifest?

http://social.biowar...bop&platform=pc

so apparently camping does pay off. big time
I managed to max out the pre-Reckoning URs in less than 400 hours
mostly using a Krogan soldier with fire grenades and a low level N7 Pirana doing Rio/Reaper Platinum...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Edit:
and now I keep camping either using juggernaut or justicar on mostly White and Giant

Modifié par EdAndEinBebop, 19 mars 2013 - 08:05 .


#145
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In my experience, there are a mix of strategies and play styles that unfold throughout any given game. Most games open with a solo rush for points, then wave 3 objective pushes the group into a rabid pack of death-dealing N7s, and as waves progress and difficultly increases, a few downs increases the necessity to play near each other, where the team begins to fall into a main holding area or will move as a group. By wave 8 or 9 the pressure increases, holding areas become overrun, and everyone begins the classic retreat and kite method.

Most games seem to be a fun mix of aggression, holding, retreating, teamwork, and selfish solo play.

#146
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I actually like playing a blend of camping and fast movement.

I think we all need to remind ourselves that players enjoy this game for varying reasons. Someone might think finishing a match in 15 minutes is paramount. Someone else might prefer a slower pace, minimal missile use, and classes that are more suited to remaining "stationary."

Each playstyle has its benefits and drawbacks.

Modifié par Flies_by_Handles, 19 mars 2013 - 08:07 .


#147
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People call it camping, I call it "creating a kill zone."

If 95% of enemies are going to be coming straight to you and open to be shot in the head, while you yourself are relatively safe, why would you NOT take that option? The longer you're out running around in the open, the greater the chance your team is going to be taking you home in a bucket.


the honest answer w/o being an elitest DB? Becuase its boring to me.


So the need of the individual trumps the good of the team?

If that's the case, why not just solo everything?


i found them boring and tedious. its alot of running around and i got bored of it.
And what good am i to the team sitting in one spot when i can be speeding up the game by wiping everything ot. Its not my job to "babysit" or "synergize" with what other people are doing. I don't play PUGs that much at all and me and my friends take random kits and playy whatever w/o an issue. no plan, no synergy, just running aorund shooting stuff cause its fun.

#148
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Camping is a legitimate way to play the game. When I tank as a juggernaut and attract the attention of the enemies I try to funnel them into a killzone. Where this killzone is depnds on how much of a stroll I want to take, and if my squishies are willing to scorch earth around me, then we'll have a 5 waves survived, or even an epic 10 waves survived on platinum all with games roughly centered around 18 -24 minutes.

You can't deny that's effective, but then again that's being a juggernaut. Camping is a valid way to play. This, of course, applies to me playing a juggernaut.

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Zero132132 wrote...

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"Stop camping!"

God forbid the team use a little strategy rather than just running around all the time, with teammates usually getting picked off as they get off on their own and get flanked.


But seriously.  It's my habit to find a good defendable position, with an escape route, then hold up there fighting the incoming hordes (Objectives aside, obviously) until i'm forced to move.

What is "bad" about that, exactly?  Are people just too impatient to hold still for more than 10 seconds, or what?  It's not like it takes any longer to kill enemies, now they all funnel straight to you rather than having to run around chasing them as they scatter. 

Now I mean, I personally don't like constantly running around the map, but if other people do, so be it, i'll just factor them in and keep tabs on them.

But that tolerance doesn't seem to go in the other direction.  I've had pugs run up and start trying to shoot me for staying in one position, yelling "stop camping, scrub" or some noobish comment like that.

Your thoughts?

They might be getting annoyed because you're in an area where enemies would spawn sometimes to make stuff simpler. And it isn't bad exactly, but it's super boring, for me. I guess that is garden variety impatience, but fast-paced is funner for me.

What's fun about waiting?


like when randoms camp the basement on glacier?

#150
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EdAndEinBebop wrote...


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
*ahem*, Spectator Mode 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Camping sure seems safe and effective.





why dont we compare our manifest?

http://social.biowar...bop&platform=pc

so apparently camping does pay off. big time
I managed to max out the pre-Reckoning URs in less than 400 hours
mostly using a Krogan soldier with fire grenades and a low level N7 Pirana doing Rio/Reaper Platinum...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Edit:
and now I keep camping either using juggernaut or justicar on mostly White and Giant


Go ahead and keep doing that if you'd like.

I will keep doing this when I need the credits:
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When I don't, I prefer to actually play the game.