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Is Bioware trying to alienate their female players?


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I wonder how the BSN would react if Bioware put an ugly LI in the game.

And then had a really hot NPC who refused the main character's advances.

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I certainly support a fat MaleShep for ME4.



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Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating the female players.

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Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

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Off topic, but where is that awesome GIF from, your avatar GIF I mean?


Pretty sure its from the trailer for the new Cyberpunk 2077.


Jep, Cyberpunk 2077, the upcoming sci-fi RPG from the superior and better-than-BioWare RPG developer CD Projekt RED. :D

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.

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I think a big issue was that for 2 games they didn't have trouble letting femsheps have Male LI's to choose from. I would get the "but it's silly of you to expect them to cater to the MINORITY" thing if they hadn't already done so...twice. Options were taken away in ME3 but only for femsheps , that's what sucked. It's not like people are whining because donnelly didn't become a LI or something.

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Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


Kaidan *is* an option that maleshep gets, Garrus is only an option if A) he's still alive and B) he was romanced in ME2, "better" is entirely subjective, and it's nice that you don't see an issue that doesn't actually affect you.

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I think a big issue was that for 2 games they didn't have trouble letting femsheps have Male LI's to choose from. I would get the "but it's silly of you to expect them to cater to the MINORITY" thing if they hadn't already done so...twice. Options were taken away in ME3 but only for straight femsheps , that's what sucked. It's not like people are whining because donnelly didn't become a LI or something.

Fixed that for ya.

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RedBeardJim wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


Kaidan *is* an option that maleshep gets, Garrus is only an option if A) he's still alive and B) he was romanced in ME2, "better" is entirely subjective, and it's nice that you don't see an issue that doesn't actually affect you.


And Kaidan is only an option for maleShep in ME3 and only if he's still alive and didn't die on Virmire.

So seriously, stop pretending you're so much worse off than the manShep players here. You're not.

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Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


The original Mass Effect crewmates pretty much got the best content. Though I'm not too sure about Ashley. There's not a lot of praise for the handling of her romance, but there's not a lot of disdain either.

But yeah, people generally consider the most complete romances to be Liara, Garrus, Kaidan and Tali.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


The original Mass Effect crewmates pretty much got the best content. Though I'm not too sure about Ashley. There's not a lot of praise for the handling of her romance, but there's not a lot of disdain either.

But yeah, people generally consider the most complete romances to be Liara, Garrus, Kaidan and Tali.


Well, in any case, I think we can all agree that Liara obviously is the canon LI and both ME2 and ME3 will continue to make sure we're reminded of that fact.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 20 mars 2013 - 08:51 .


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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


The original Mass Effect crewmates pretty much got the best content. Though I'm not too sure about Ashley. There's not a lot of praise for the handling of her romance, but there's not a lot of disdain either.

But yeah, people generally consider the most complete romances to be Liara, Garrus, Kaidan and Tali.

I think there were some complains about Ashley's romance in the Citadel was seen as too casual and not much different between romance and non-romance ones. There were a thread about a comparison between Ashley and Kaidan and there were some disappointments, mostly about the change on her personality though. I agree that those four have the most contents in ME3. Kaidan and Tali are my favorites.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


The original Mass Effect crewmates pretty much got the best content. Though I'm not too sure about Ashley. There's not a lot of praise for the handling of her romance, but there's not a lot of disdain either.

But yeah, people generally consider the most complete romances to be Liara, Garrus, Kaidan and Tali.

Which actually gives the "main" romances a spread equal to DA:O; one straight and one bisexual character of each gender.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

And Kaidan is only an option for maleShep in ME3


Not if you play on PC...

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I think it would be better if people realized that Bioware's original story was male Shepard and Liara, everything else was just icing. Choices that didn't get as much attention. Not a big deal really, Ashley was my choice, but clearly, Liara is a mainstay in the trilogy.

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Raanz wrote...

I think it would be better if people realized that Bioware's original story was male Shepard and Liara, everything else was just icing. Choices that didn't get as much attention. Not a big deal really, Ashley was my choice, but clearly, Liara is a mainstay in the trilogy.

I think Liara has more contents simply because she's the only one who can't die during the trilogy. It doesn't mean that any other choices like Tali or Ashley are any less valid. As I recall, Bioware stated that there is no canon.

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 20 mars 2013 - 09:38 .


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One of me ME3 PT's:

Romanced Jacob in ME2. ME3 comes and Jacob dumps Femshep and already has another woman, and has her knocked up. And tells me, "Did you expect me to wait forever?" Uh, okay. 6 months? I guess he didn't even come visit when Shep was locked up.

Okay, fine. Whatever.

Annnndddd..that's it. For straight FemShep in ME3, after that you're forever alone. And then she dies.

Honestly I think Vega was meant to be an option, but they ran out of resources.

It was not cool.

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I do feel bad for the girls, if they didn't save Kaiden all they got left is a bird like alien. Ouch.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

I wonder how the BSN would react if Bioware put an ugly LI in the game.

And then had a really hot NPC who refused the main character's advances.


Love it. Lol

Although if you think about it theyv'e already done that with femshep, garrus and perhaps Vega or Jacob. Cuz lets face it, from a human perspective a turian is pretty hideous. 

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Off topic, but where is that awesome GIF from, your avatar GIF I mean?


Yeah as someone already said, it's from the trailer of cyberpunk 2077, which you can check out on youtube. Made by the same dudes who made the witcher 1 & 2, which I am curently playing. :)

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They aren't trying hard enough, if that's the case.

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Mr.House wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Not all females are into males, so Bioware is not alienating all of the female players.


Just the straight ones. :P

Seeing as Kaidan and Garrus are better then majoirty of the options maleshep get's, I don't see the issue. Quality over quanity.


Lol I'm sorry but kaiden is a p*ssy and garrus (bless him) looks like a praying mantis, and please don't use that crappy line of how love/beauty is not skin deep. The fact of the matter is that people are typically attracted to physical appearance initially.

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I do feel bad for the girls, if they didn't save Kaiden all they got left is a bird like alien. Ouch.


Actually, that's not entirely accurate. To get the awesome dinosaur-birdman, you had to import an ME2 romance with him. So....yeah.

I didn't feel as much love from the Mass Effect team for my FemShep as I do from the Dragon Age team with my F!Warden or FemHawke.

Dragon Age just does it better. :wub:

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Well, they obviously aren't welcoming us with open arms anymore :( I might have to go see Alistair again. Oh, wait, without persuasion he dumps the Warden, so yeah...hmmm


Ha ha, Well, to be fair Morrigan is awkward as well. She just outright ends it right?

Dragon Age Origins seemed quite balanced and of course Dragon Age 2 was about as balanced as you can get.

Mass Effect 3 though is problematic in this respect. I know a lot of people place a lot of stock in the romances which I guess is why the "Citadel" dlc was so well received. I was always a little confused as to why a Tali/Garrus romance couldn't be instigated in Mass Effect 3.

After all, rejection doesn't stop Liara trying again. Got to admire that perseverance and "can do attitude" of hers.