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Is Bioware trying to alienate their female players?


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Profanity Beaver wrote...

Seriously, with Jacob dumping you for some mean ****. James flirting with you but never going anywhere. No male love interest i you didn't save Kaiden or romance Garrus.

Being rejected by friggin Joker if you show interest in him!

It doesn't feel to me like they just didn't take their female audience into account, it feels like they specifically want to torture the poor girls who wanted to play Mass Effect and dare have fun with it...

Yeah, but on the upside you get Traynor! Image IPB

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I sure hope so. I'm tired of listening to women PMS'ing over how they're not treated equally. They should just go play Cooking Mama, or some **** like that. Video games with killin' 'n' **** are for 14-year-old boys and manly men.

THUG LIFE

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If I were them, I'd want to alienate anybody who sees James Vega as a desirable romantic partner.

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spirosz wrote...

So are u secretly just mad at Jacob, or the lack of females romances, it seems like it's more focused on dat prize, tbh.

THIS HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE THOUGH AND MASS EFFECT IS A REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE


Shut up Korra. Go back to Mako.

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Romance in a (not for porn) video game is a laughable concept to begin with. So I'd say BioWare respects FemShep a lot more than MaleShep.

Moreover, Garrus & Kaidan are better than any of the female LIs except Liara, who is also available for FemShep.

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How is Ashley any better than Jacob? He dumps you because he's horny. She dumps you because she hates what you did and what you've become. I don't know about you but I think Jacob's reason is a lot more understandable and forgivable.

Not to mention how all Tali does is using the prospect of sex to manipulate Shepard into lying, murder, and genocide. It's 1,000 times worse than Jacob ever is. Jacob would only ruin your life, and only if you choose to let him. Tali would use Shepard as the tool to ruin the lives of every Quarian and Geth alive, just so that she could carry out her father's insane ambition.

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No. They are just playing it safe ... just like every other corporation on the planet.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Not to mention how all Tali does is using the prospect of sex to manipulate Shepard into lying, murder, and genocide.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Not to mention how all Tali does is using the prospect of sex to manipulate Shepard into lying, murder, and genocide. It's 1,000 times worse than Jacob ever is. Jacob would only ruin your life, and only if you choose to let him. Tali would use Shepard as the tool to ruin the lives of every Quarian and Geth alive, just so that she could carry out her father's insane ambition.

Did I.... somehow miss some crazy f**ked-up DLC that was never released, that somehow totally transformed Tali's character in the terrible one described in that post? :mellow:

No? Oh... then I guess that wacky assertion is just a bunch of crap then. <_<

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Not to mention how all Tali does is using the prospect of sex to manipulate Shepard into lying, murder, and genocide.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Not for Tali, sure. But I do not identify with her in the least.

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When the hell does Tali do anything even remotely like that?

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Not to mention how all Tali does is using the prospect of sex to manipulate Shepard into lying, murder, and genocide.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Not for Tali, sure. But I do not identify with her in the least.

No, I meant for Shepard. He gets sex, and he gets to kill annoying robots. It's the perfect deal.

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AVPen wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Not to mention how all Tali does is using the prospect of sex to manipulate Shepard into lying, murder, and genocide. It's 1,000 times worse than Jacob ever is. Jacob would only ruin your life, and only if you choose to let him. Tali would use Shepard as the tool to ruin the lives of every Quarian and Geth alive, just so that she could carry out her father's insane ambition.

I guess that wacky assertion is just a bunch of crap then. 

Let me ask you a few questions then:

(1) In Tali's Loyalty mission, what will Tali say if you suggest the Quarians find a different world to live on?

(2) Did you lie (lie of omission counts) to the Admiralty Board in that mission to preserve the reputation of her war criminal father?

(3) Did Tali become a Quarian Admiral, but chose not to prevent the war between the Geth and Quarians in ME3, causing the death of millions of Geth and Quarians alike?

(4) Did she not ask/beg you to wipe out the Geth with genocide, in both Legion's Loyalty Mission as well as Priority: Rannoch?

You sir, are what is called ****-whipped. Not to mention the **** is covered up in a tin box, and made of pixels.

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That's stupid. Tali makes it overwhelmingly clear that she did everything she could to try and prevent the war in ME 3.

Nor is it wrong for her to want to have her homeworld back and her race to survive. Nor do I have problem with lying by omission, considering, as Shepard can point out, that the entire trial is a sham anyway.

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David7204 wrote...

That's stupid. Tali makes it overwhelmingly clear that she did everything she could to try and prevent the war in ME 3.

I might have found such ineptitude believable in her, had she not demonstrated her surprising skills in manipulating Shepard.

Unless you admit Shepard is a lot more easily manipulated than Admiral Raan. Granted, that is still possible for a male Shepard who thinks with his penis.

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Isn't Tali a male name?

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It's 'such ineptitude' for a single person to not be able to convince 17 million people that they should pass by an opportunity they've waited and worked for for 300 years?

Shepard is not manipulated. That's simply ridiculous.

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David7204 wrote...

Nor is it wrong for her to want to have her homeworld back and her race to survive.

Those two are contradictory. If she wanted her race to survive, she would have looked to colonize other worlds like Koris does, or even hacking the Geth without bloodshed like Xen does. 

Getting the homeworld back via brute force serves nothing but blind ambition. Rael's, Han's, and Tali's ambition. An ambition that could lead to nothing but the extinction of the Quarian species.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Nor is it wrong for her to want to have her homeworld back and her race to survive.

Those two are contradictory. If she wanted her race to survive, she would have looked to colonize other worlds like Koris does, or even hacking the Geth without bloodshed, like Xen does. 

Getting the homeworld back via brute force serves nothing but blind ambition. Rael's, Han's, and Tali's ambition. An ambition that could lead to nothing but the extinction of the Quarian species.


That takes too long, (immune system). Removing the geth is the quick way to solve a major problem, and with Shepard's help. They actually do.

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David7204 wrote...

It's 'such ineptitude' for a single person to not be able to convince 17 million people that they should pass by an opportunity they've waited and worked for for 300 years?

(1) The majority of the 17 million did NOT wait and work for such a war. Koris and his people made this abundantly clear in ME3.

(2) She just needed to convince 1 person, and that person is her Auntie Raan. And she failed, which I think is on purpose.

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Honestly though, isn't there a Geth / Quarian thread just up north?

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Do you know what 'brute force' is? Because the quarians weren't using brute force. In fact, it looks as if they had basically avoided casualties entirely before the Reapers entered the picture.

You don't seem to understand how the quarian attack worked. They DID use the countermeasure Tali's father developed.

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David7204 wrote...

Nor is it wrong for her to want to have her homeworld back and her race to survive.

Those two are contradictory. If she wanted her race to survive, she would have looked to colonize other worlds like Koris does, or even hacking the Geth without bloodshed like Xen does. 

Getting the homeworld back via brute force serves nothing but blind ambition. Rael's, Han's, and Tali's ambition. An ambition that could lead to nothing but the extinction of the Quarian species.


They aren't allowed to colonize any worlds because the council orders them to leave the worlds they land on immediatly, every time, for the past 300 years. 

Your entire argument relys on the ommision of evidence and ignoreing the very real fact that the quarians are allowed no where except the perseus veil, which is controlled by the geth.

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spirosz wrote...

Honestly though, isn't there a Geth / Quarian thread just up north?

Yeah, but that one's actually serious, I think. Except for that page where I went in and made a bunch of bad geth jokes.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

David7204 wrote...

It's 'such ineptitude' for a single person to not be able to convince 17 million people that they should pass by an opportunity they've waited and worked for for 300 years?

(1) The majority of the 17 million did NOT wait and work for such a war. Koris and his people made this abundantly clear in ME3.

(2) She just needed to convince 1 person, and that person is her Auntie Raan. And she failed, which I think is on purpose.


Did they want a fight with the Reapers and upgraded geth with heavy casualties? I doubt it. But would most of the citizens have supported defeating the geth without quarian losses? I think so. And that's exactly what was happening before the Reapers showed up.