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[Jukaga]

 For the record I was a die hard fan of DAO, it felt like a worthy spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate 2 in gameplay and presentation. I have yet to play DA2 as I understood the top down PC mode of playing was removed and it was turned into more of an action game. This kept me away from even considering playing it, but lately felt I should at least take a second look and get some informed opinion.

I can get over the fact that the gameplay has been radically altered if it's still a good game. Should I try it, is there any must have DLC? Have I been wrong in spurning DA2 because it didn't fit the niche I wanted it to fill? Thanks for your opinions.

[Angrywolves]

It's an ok game but not exceptional like DAO was. If you approach it as just another rpg you're playing you will be fine. I f you play it as the true sequel to DAO you will be disappointed.

[Sir George Parr]

The Series is meant to be separate games set in that world. So don't go into it expecting to continue with The Warden, by virtue of the game being called DA2 some people expect to do exactly that and get confused by the fact that this series is not like ME and has no set protag.
Its cheap enough to buy now and also worth getting all the available dlc for it. Both titles in this series have their respective shortcomings and are far from perfect games. Origins is generic fantasy fair so nothing exceptional in that respect and a storyline thats very similar to ME3. DA2 is more interesting as it sets out to do something different at its core its a rags to riches story. This game really could have benefited from another year in development.
Its good just not as good as it should have being. One thing that would have being a benefit to DA2 is the stillborn expansion.

Modifié par XM-417, 21 mars 2013 - 05:21 .

[ref]

Judging by you really liking DAO, and liked it because of the fact it was like a spiritual successor to BG2, you probably *won't* like it very much.

Now, is it worth it to play it? I'd say probably. It's cheap now, and if for nothing else, you'll get some insight on why a lot of us despise DA2.

[Giltspur]

Jukaga wrote...

 For the record I was a die hard fan of DAO, it felt like a worthy spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate 2 in gameplay and presentation. I have yet to play DA2 as I understood the top down PC mode of playing was removed and it was turned into more of an action game. This kept me away from even considering playing it, but lately felt I should at least take a second look and get some informed opinion.

I can get over the fact that the gameplay has been radically altered if it's still a good game. Should I try it, is there any must have DLC? Have I been wrong in spurning DA2 because it didn't fit the niche I wanted it to fill? Thanks for your opinions.

It depends on what you liked about DAO and BGII really.  Let's say there are three main reasons to play RPG's

(1) Story
(2) Exploration and Lore
(3) Gameplay (Combat, Puzzles, Etc.)

On (1)
Generally, speaking in terms of story, DAO has better characters, a less momentous villain and less of an epic feel than BG2.  DA2 has comparable characters to DAO and better characters than BG2.  DA2's crit path story (really, three stories) has less pull than either DAO or BG2 did.

On (2)
DA2 really drops the ball on exploration.  The limited maps kill it here.  It's a step back from DAO and not even close to BG2.  Now I'm not saying setting a game in a city is a bad idea.  But Kirkwall, as presented, isn't nearly big enough or detailed enough to hold my interest for an entire game.

The lore is still fine, but sadly too much of it is in the codex and not enough of it is experienced out in the world.  Now, does that mean there's nothing here?  Not at all.  There is an interesting backstory to Kirkwall (that is in codex entries).  And there are also some cool teases on Deep Roads, which, thankfully is in more than just the codex.  Not a lot of answers (well, no answers, really).  But still something to take in and add to the background knowledge.

On (3)
So, if you thought DAO was still a tactical RPG but a decided step back from BG2, then I would guess you'd feel DA2 was an even bigger step back from BG2.  That's pretty much how I felt, but I didn't mind it as much as some did.  For me, DA2's combat was terribly disappointing at first.  I had designed combat synergies but didn't have any reason to use them because the game was just so danged easy.  What was the point of bothering to try?  I ended finding the game by setting it to hard difficulty and turning off all scripts and party members and micromanaging everyone with heavy pause-and-play.  Enjoyment of combat went up by a lot.  Nightmare I had mixed feelings on.  Friendly fire (a nightmare-only feature in DA2) was very cool in DAO.  DA2 Nightmare...I don't know.  I never really gave it a chance.  My impression was that it was herding cats and that I wasn't interested in bringing precision to combat that felt that way.  YMMV.

There are some things DA2 does better than DAO.  It has better companion quests and better side quests than DAO did. 

Also, I felt that Act 2 and the Arishok interactions are really good.

Summary
If you play RPG's for the tactical combat, you'll probably see DA2 as just too far removed from what made BG2 good.  If you're like me and enjoy all that sutff but still mostly play RPG's for the story, DA2 is something of a mixed bag that is worth playing for its characters.  In general, the cast of companions caused me to forgive the game's flaws, and I did still get some fun out of the gameplay even if I didn't feel the combat was a step in the right direction.

Modifié par Giltspur, 21 mars 2013 - 08:01 .

[kyles3]

The DLC quests are in some respects better than those found in the main game. Definitely worth getting.

[Ferretinabun]

kyles3 wrote...

The DLC quests are in some respects better than those found in the main game. Definitely worth getting.

This.

The DLCs attempted to fix a lot of the issues people had with the main game. Consequently a lot of people actually prefer them to the main game.

[-TC1989-]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over skipping it, but it is a good game for what it is.

[rapscallioness]

Go for it. I enjoyed it. The dlc's are good, too.