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[NeonFlux117]

 Was on Halo 4 tonight and my buds and I were talking about the game industry and the pricing of the rumored games of next gen being 70 dollars. Was on youtube and came across this vid. What do you guys think about the 70 dollar price tag, DLC, and the over all buisness practices for the game industry?

Here's rival's vid. It's quite good and interesting. 








What do you guy's think? 

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 20 mars 2013 - 05:49 .

[BetrayerOfNihil]

As long as they take their damn microtransactions and shove 'em up their asses, $100 would be fine for a quality game and especially one that lasts. After a whole year I'm still playing ME3 Multiplayer.

[David7204]

I'd be perfectly happy to pay a whole lot more money for high quality games. So long as I get my money's worth.

[IllusiveManJr]

I don't care, but then again as far as money goes I'm quite comfortable.

[Kronner]

I'll just wait for Steam sale and grab it for 1/3 or 1/2 of the original price.

There are very few games I'd consider buying for the full price.
Mass Effect used to be in that category for me, for example.

[IllusiveManJr]

Two years ago I was stingy when it came to buying games. I didn't really have much to spend and also I was new to gaming. I'd usually wait until they dropped in price, but now during winter I'll usually buy a game to play if I have some interest in it. Summer I think the only game I'm getting is Metro and Last of Us. Summers don't last long up here, so I spend most of my time outdoors.

There's seven new releases I got/am getting this month. Although LoS: Mirror of Fate was only $40 since it was a 3DS game, the rest I got for Xbox.

[Ridwan]

They can do that and I'll keep buying games that are on sales, or cheap indie games.

[Seagloom]

It's a rip off. The jump in graphics quality for next gen is not so high to necessitate such a price hike. Games are priced way too high as is. I only buy a game at full price if I want it badly, or wish to show my support for the company, concept, series, ect since the first two weeks of sales are critical. Otherwise I wait for a good discount. Few games are worth full price.

[AntiChri5]

Wow, 70 whole dollars. How will you poor Americans manage?

[Ridwan]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Wow, 70 whole dollars. How will you poor Americans manage?

Newsflash buddy, not everyone got money to spend it on video games on full price, but please go on being a dick.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

You know that this currency (Dollar) is gradually losing its worth (1-5% inflation every year)? Thus the video games aren't much more expensive comparing to 20 years ago. Also consider the resources and difficulty of making new games with all these graphic complexity and voice actings. [Edited for better explaining]

But it affects non-USA video game customers for worse.

Modifié par Legatus Arianus, 20 mars 2013 - 11:16 .

[Ridwan]

Legatus Arianus wrote...

You know that this currency (Dollar) is gradually losing its worth? Thus the video games aren't much more expensive comparing to 20 years ago.

But it affects non-USA video game customers for worse.

Aye, I know that. But reading the other posters comment his way, if he even intended to put it like that, came across as very very dickish.

[AntiChri5]

Newsflash buddy, not everyone got money to spend it on video games on full price, but please go on being a dick.

Newsflash buddy, full price for games is $120 where i live. Watching people complain about $70 is hilarious.

[Ridwan]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Newsflash buddy, not everyone got money to spend it on video games on full price, but please go on being a dick.

Newsflash buddy, full price for games is $120 where i live. Watching people complain about $70 is hilarious.

Then perhaps it would've been much wiser to write that down, instead of assuming we can magically read your mind. And even so, 70 dollars is still a lot of money.

[AntiChri5]

Of course it would have been, but i make no claim to wisdom or niceness. My way was more fun.

[iOnlySignIn]

An Australian being a jerk. You hardly ever see that happen.

[IllusiveManJr]

Where's Lord_Sirian?

[AntiChri5]

It's the spiders. We all have PTSD.

[RedArmyShogun]

Given the popularity of social gaming and MP titles on the console, and nickle and dime manner of DLC, plus map pack match making, and the.."Keeping up with the johnsons" effect as I call it, you can't take a price tag at face value anymore.

Now a 10 dollar jump isn't that big of a deal, minus for our Aussie and European gamers it will be even higher, and the fact that the bond of trust between seller and consumer is no longer there. For example I can't trust buying any game at all at its face value.

Either its over priced crap, or its filled to the brim wiht DLC down the road, only to be fallowed up with a smack to the face of first line customers. For Example, why should I even buy your games? I mean all you will do is release a trilogy edition, or a collectors edition later down the road with all the DLC on disc at a MUCH lower price. From that point of view I'm just throwing my money down the toilet. Or I end up spending more for "exclusives" you'll push out later as DLC content. The fact is, short of Nintendo who's eccentrice kiddy antics aiming at the mainstream gamers and non gamers, Sony nor MS are trustworthy any longer.

And all of these, plus the hostility of the XBL community, and the active ability and usage I get out of having "fun" with anyone on my list at all makes that seem even more useless. And is a driving factor for me going back to PC which I really hate.

I don't like PC Gaming as it is now at all, be it the need for upgrading, the high price tag, the snobbery of a great many of its user base, are all major turn-offs. Nvm while Steam has good sales, and that is who I mainly will be buying from, I have no doubts I'm giving my money to the devil.

Steam while it has great sales, the way it has changed PC gaming to being mostly digital as of late, having a monopoly on the market, and its policy towards returns and even owning your games, should smell wrong to anyone minus the most rabid of fanboys. If not for me needing a better PC, and planning to work on a couple of indie games with some friends, I wouldn't even bother.

A crash to the industry would be welcomed imo. Otherwise, between social on one hand, and digital on the other, I will be done with gaming for good.

Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 20 mars 2013 - 12:27 .

[Seagloom]

I see Steam as more of a benevolent dictatorship than anything. What worries me is what will happen when the people running Valve now retire. Steam is by no means perfect, but its market dominance could be exploited in so many worse ways than it is now.

I don't think the video game industry needs another crash to get its act together. I don't want to see one of my favorite hobbies collapse. I do think AAA game publishers need to reevaluate their practices however, or they will choke the life out of their own market. That's a whole other discussion, though.

[RedArmyShogun]

Hmm I can agree with most of that. Right now Steam is only a pain in the butt...but when other people take over?

Its just sad that right now the only company I can hold a good view of atm minus its insanely pricey controller is Nintendo. But it seems unable to make a current gen system and is thus left in the dust with 3rd party devs. My willingness to play Zelda and Mario only go so far. And I do think it will take something drastic to change things, but thats not limited to gaming it seems. I wouldn't worry about gaming going away however, Indie devs and studios waiting in the wings like last time would pick it back up.

What is a real disappointment however is Disney. Now that it is switching to little app and moble games, we are seeing alot of major titles being swept away..just hope they don't buy up anyone else.

[mumba]

M25105 wrote...

70 dollars is still a lot of money.

No, it isn't. 

[RedArmyShogun]

Mumba1511 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

70 dollars is still a lot of money.

No, it isn't. 

You must have a good paying job then, or a big allowance, or don't drive. Thats a tank of gas for me.

[Fishy]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Newsflash buddy, not everyone got money to spend it on video games on full price, but please go on being a dick.

Newsflash buddy, full price for games is $120 where i live. Watching people complain about $70 is hilarious.

The Piracy in Australia must be Epic. I would stop gaming if game were 120.00 $. My money would be spent elsewhere in the economy.

I doubt that happens. People can still afford 120.00 just like Australian. It's just that gamers purchase less game per month/years.. Which mean some studio would close and less and less video game would be developped each years..  The economy is a complex thing.

70.00 $ seem to be pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable. Less expensive game mean more chance for newer studio .. Which mean more game developped .. WHich mean more people hired and which mean a better economy.

Yes .. Game are more expensive to create than before, but also less expensive to build and print. I don't know, but would not surprise me that some publisher use cheap labor in China.

Anyway.

Modifié par Suprez30, 20 mars 2013 - 12:48 .

[RedArmyShogun]

One thing to keep in mind, is while the prices up there and elsewhere are absurd, partially due to taxes, the rest to no good reason at all, Europeans and Australians DO overall make a great deal more than the typical person from the US. So in a way those prices even out, though I think they should be treated like commodities, and priced in the same manner as wheat or beef along the lines of a single currency. Which in some cases leaves the high prices intact, but in others makes them even or a lot cheaper with the US price. Any price raise after that should be laid squarely on the heads of the local government and store owners.

Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 20 mars 2013 - 01:00 .