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[Almurat89]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

What kit is the best Venom user would be an interesting discussion.

All of them.

[q5tyhj]

N7didacus wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

What kit is the best Venom user would be an interesting discussion.

GI. 

Was this a serious question? It's always G mfking I. 

I'm think that's the answer to most any question having to do with ME3 mp...

Here's my question, seeing as you appear to be the unofficial ambassador for all things Venom- why is that it seems like people use the Venom on caster kits as much as anything (drell, shaman, fury, etc.) when its weight is so prohibitive? I've come to respect its advantages- its a staggering, mook slaughtering MACHINE, and really reliable at applying ammo effects- but I can't seem to find the right niche for it; I would tend to use it on casters, sort of the way you can use the scorpion, but then you have a poor cooldown... On the other hand, with pure weapons kits like the destroyer, human soldier, Tsoldier, GI, etc., it seems like there are better options (usually pure DPS weapons like the harrier, pirahna, typhoon, etc.). Thoughts?

[Striker93175]

Venom BatSol is totally plat viable and one of my personal fav kits for plat.  Venom QME is also a monster with a venom.  GI makes any weapon good really... including a venom.  Recently I have been totally in love with the venom smashguard as well (have not taken this kit into plat however -- he dominates the match though in gold so I should, just BC in plat makes me nervous ;p  ).

q5tyhj wrote...

N7didacus wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

What kit is the best Venom user would be an interesting discussion.

GI. 

Was this a serious question? It's always G mfking I. 

I'm think that's the answer to most any question having to do with ME3 mp...

Here's my question, seeing as you appear to be the unofficial ambassador for all things Venom- why is that it seems like people use the Venom on caster kits as much as anything (drell, shaman, fury, etc.) when its weight is so prohibitive? I've come to respect its advantages- its a staggering, mook slaughtering MACHINE, and really reliable at applying ammo effects- but I can't seem to find the right niche for it; I would tend to use it on casters, sort of the way you can use the scorpion, but then you have a poor cooldown... On the other hand, with pure weapons kits like the destroyer, human soldier, Tsoldier, GI, etc., it seems like there are better options (usually pure DPS weapons like the harrier, pirahna, typhoon, etc.). Thoughts?

To jump in and answer your question jsut as some1 reading...  I would say that for the fury, throw's cooldown even with a heavy weapon doesnt matter.  On the drell, your have your reave and thats it CG don't have a cooldown.  Some kits like I posted above the smashguard, has a reduce weight evo for shotguns... add ulm... makes the weight totally irrelative.  On your GI weight doesn't matter with tactical damage boost cloak since as long as you fire right from cloak you have a 3 sec cooldown even at -200%.  Your destroyer, again really once you have your hawks and your dev mode on, multifrag has no cooldown, so again... rock -200% it really doesn't matter. 

Modifié par Striker93175, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:27 .

[didacuscarr]

q5tyhj wrote...

N7didacus wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

What kit is the best Venom user would be an interesting discussion.

GI. 

Was this a serious question? It's always G mfking I. 

I'm think that's the answer to most any question having to do with ME3 mp...

Here's my question, seeing as you appear to be the unofficial ambassador for all things Venom- why is that it seems like people use the Venom on caster kits as much as anything (drell, shaman, fury, etc.) when its weight is so prohibitive? I've come to respect its advantages- its a staggering, mook slaughtering MACHINE, and really reliable at applying ammo effects- but I can't seem to find the right niche for it; I would tend to use it on casters, sort of the way you can use the scorpion, but then you have a poor cooldown... On the other hand, with pure weapons kits like the destroyer, human soldier, Tsoldier, GI, etc., it seems like there are better options (usually pure DPS weapons like the harrier, pirahna, typhoon, etc.). Thoughts?

I use it on anything, no ULM or rank 6 a in passives. The cooldowns are overrated anyway, Venom is already destructive without any power use on mooks and most bosses too, I find it only annoying to deal with a crab or an Atlas. 

Those usually only spam one power that causes a cooldown (Reave, BC, TC, Shockwave, Throw) and are pretty short.
I don't find the Venom heavy at all. And imo there's a rhythm to every weapon/power use. I assume most people who use light weapons on their casters and find weapons like the Venom for example too heavy, don't really make use of their weapon and just want to spam their powers. You have to equip a gun, use it.

Blah blah better options. I use whatever is fun to me, don't care about better options.

[ClydeInTheShell]

q5tyhj wrote...

Here's my question, seeing as you appear to be the unofficial ambassador for all things Venom *snip*

Leland Gaunt says hello. 

No disrespect Dida.

[didacuscarr]

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

q5tyhj wrote...

Here's my question, seeing as you appear to be the unofficial ambassador for all things Venom *snip*

Leland Gaunt, bgsam and kaxas say hello. 

No disrespect Dida.

Chocolyde pls..

[rcolol]

GallowsPole wrote...

Loved him in Spiderman.

[ClydeInTheShell]

N7didacus wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

q5tyhj wrote...

Here's my question, seeing as you appear to be the unofficial ambassador for all things Venom *snip*

Leland Gaunt, bgsam and kaxas say hello. 

No disrespect Dida.

Chocolyde pls..

Noted. 

This "bgsam" must be an awesome guy. I've met & played with the other two + you Dida, I'm sure he keeps the trend going.

even if he does play on lolpeesea.

[q5tyhj]

Striker93175 wrote...

To jump in and answer your question jsut as some1 reading...  I would say that for the fury, throw's cooldown even with a heavy weapon doesnt matter.

Fair enough. And that's true about the drell as well I suppose- pull has a short cooldown, and pull+reave kills most mooks, so your cooldown AFTER the reave isn't as important, and reave+CG is similar since by the time you've thrown your grenade you've already got like a 1 sec headstart on the reave cooldown. But then with the shaman, you want to pull off biotic explosions and you have two powers with decent cooldowns (more than throw or pull at any rate)- maybe do more of a weapons build and focus more on running around and warp+shotgun all the things rather than pulling off combos? I may play around with this tonight.

N7didacus wrote...

I use it on anything, no ULM or rank 6 a in passives. The cooldowns are overrated anyway, Venom is already destructive without any power use on mooks and most bosses too, I find it only annoying to deal with a crab or an Atlas. 

Those usually only spam one power that causes a cooldown (Reave, BC, TC, Shockwave, Throw) and are pretty short. 
I don't find the Venom heavy at all. And imo there's a rhythm to every weapon/power use. I assume most people who use light weapons on their casters and find weapons like the Venom for example too heavy, don't really make use of their weapon and just want to spam their powers. You have to equip a gun, use it.

Blah blah better options. I use whatever is fun to me, don't care about better options.

Yeah, that was one thing that got me- with power characters you often have a gun, or several guns, that you use most frequently, and you get into a rhythm and sort of anticipate when your cooldown is ready, so when you switch to something with a different cooldown your timing gets messed up. 

Anyways, will try to tinker with a stagger-machine kro-shaman later, see if that tickles me the right way. 

[Mad as Heck]

I don't like it. Just a personal taste since I don't like waiting half a round for my gun to charge up.

[Creator Limbs]

You're doing it wrong, it doesn't take half a round.

[Peer of the Empire]

Great on krogan soldier and sentinel and tsab

misses half the time

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 23 janvier 2014 - 10:50 .

[ZombieGrenadier]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

After playing almost 400 hours I have not yet seen anyone using this POS. The most useless UR weapon. 

[NuclearTech76]

N7didacus wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

What kit is the best Venom user would be an interesting discussion.

GI. 

Was this a serious question? It's always G mfking I. 

Eh, I think the BatSoldier is far more destructive with it than the GI. There is nothing in this game that can last more than a few seconds with a BatSoldier with the Venom. I would rate both cloakless Drell above the GI as well. 

[FuriousFelicia]

Venom is up there with lolcolyte, reegar and a few more crutches. Very good weapon regardless of kit but sadly frowned upon. It aint gonna stop me from using it though.

[Mad as Heck]

prostheticlimbs wrote...

You're doing it wrong, it doesn't take half a round.

Exaggeration showing how I don't like charge-up weapons. They just don't feel like guns, IMO. 

Modifié par Mad as Heck, 26 janvier 2014 - 03:12 .

[WizeMan305]

When I had it at 4 it was underwhelming, I heard good things so after a few upgrades I took it out and it was amazing.

[Face of Darkness]

great for crowd control, and its quite satisfying to see phantoms go flying after just a couple shots

but meh, really don't like the way it forces you to kind of avoid boss units till the end of the wave budget

[Brannigans 1ove]

Great gun. Only really used it since I got it above VII. One thing to watch out for is against Collectors, it send abominations flying towards you.

[RedJohn]

Easiest weapon to use in the game, no needs skill or aiming at all and it's not that awesome.

The AOE it's useful though.

[RedJohn]

MasterReefa wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Easiest weapon to use in the game, no needs skill or aiming at all and it's not that awesome.

The AOE it's useful though.

Easiest weapon to use is the reegar

At least you need to aim that one. 

[Shinobu]

I'm a habitual Falcon user, so the extra weight took some getting used to. I haven't fallen in love with it yet, though it seemed to work well when I tried it on on BatSent and GE.

[Chief Capo]

It can make sure work on mook spawns in every difficulty except platinum, I noticed that it's absolute crap* on platinum if you don't charge it up first