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[Deerber]

In my opinion, talking about objective killing efficiency, QFI > shadow and it's not even that close, sadly.

I don't understand how you can say that SS is better than stickies, Slasher. ... Last time I checked no combination of cloaking, shooting, ES and SS can wipe a gold reaper late waves spawn in like... 5 seconds. Banshees excluded, of course. A good combination of cloak, shooting, sabotage and stickies can, instead.

I'd like to like the shadow, I really would... And I kind of do that, in the sense that I enjoy playing her regardless, at times, but... She just can't keep up with any other infiltrator apart the huntress.

[Deerber]

I did this too! Thanks Deerber

Oh you're welcome man!

Funny, I never considered this as a feature of mine, I always forget to do it >.<

Still, glad I made life easier for someone

[ctc91]

Hah didn't know that you were from here CptWiigum

sould  have known when i joined in the game and everyone removes launchers from their backs

 

Nice pink krogan by the way :3 

I was in those games too. Good games again 

[capn233]

Weird.  Gameplay argument in this thread.

 

Backfire has a 1.5x multiplier to shields (just shields though, not barriers).  And since backfire occurs after Sabotage, you get TV with the first cast.  Hence it is a pretty decent shield stripping power, although the utility is diminished somewhat by the fact that it is delayed in relation to where you would want to take the shot.

 

I would prefer running SR's on the QFI to the Shadow.  With a Black Widow the supporting powers on the QFI might not matter all that much.

[TheNightSlasher]

@Deerber: vs. gold reapers, I can see the QFI being better because ravagers and brutes are slow and huge, and are more susceptible to stickies.

 

Against Geth and Cerberus, I'd definitely pick shadow over QFI because more shielded units benefit shield drain specced SS (more survivability, can close in distances quicker), and more mooks benefit ES, which has much larger AoE than stickies. I've always found stickies to be better vs. armor than wiping mooks.

 

I've always thought collectors as an enemy where weapon damage matters because of their huge armor and barrier values. If you spec both for weapon damage, shadow has a better damage output. So, I don't see the QFI being a clear winner here.

 

So, I'd prefer shadow anyday against QFI. Me not liking the female quarian characters doesn't help either.

 

Also, as capn said, sabotage's backfire happens with a delay and you're more likely to take the shot before the backfire kicks in. So, it's function as a shield stripper is largely diminished.

 

Anyway, this is not the thread for gameplay discussions. I'll stop making posts about this here.

[Awakened_Pyjak]

I don't know if DanceWithScions is a BSNer, but I had some good games with him/her. Good player, melee between waves and hidden missile launcher...

I even enjoyed the last game against Cerberus, despite all my hate against them.

[7twozero]

I don't know if DanceWithScions is a BSNer, but I had some good games with him/her. Good player, melee between waves and hidden missile launcher...

I even enjoyed the last game against Cerberus, despite all my hate against them.

I played a game with them last night too, though I don't remember if I made it through the whole game or not. I was getting disconnected like crazy last night, lost a lot of good gear.

[DancesWithScions]

I don't know if DanceWithScions is a BSNer, but I had some good games with him/her. Good player, melee between waves and hidden missile launcher...

I even enjoyed the last game against Cerberus, despite all my hate against them.

 

Thanks. You played very well, and it was a pleasure playing with you.

 

I played a game with them last night too, though I don't remember if I made it through the whole game or not. I was getting disconnected like crazy last night, lost a lot of good gear.

 

   Did I host that match?  If that was the case, then I apologize, it's always a shame for me when others experience issues such as lag or glitches, especially on my host.

[DimeBagHo]

Thanks. You played very well, and it was a pleasure playing with you.

 

 

   Did I host that match?  If that was the case, then I apologize, it's always a shame for me when others experience issues such as lag or glitches, especially on my host.

 

I think I played a couple of rounds with you as well. No lag problems. Pretty smooth games IIRC.

[Shampoohorn]

All sabotage does is stun the enemy which only increases the ease of sniping. Unlike ED or PM or CB, it doesn't debuff or strip shields. So, sabotage doesn't help you increase your weapon damage output.

Ease of sniping != better sniper.

 

Cloaked sabotage on a sniper QFI does between 2250 and 3100 damage to the shields of organics if you take tech vulnerability.  It maxes out around 3400.  The same setup will do around 2000 on synthetics if you choose explosive hack. 

 

TV applies to both of these damage sources immediately, i.e. without the need for a second casting.

 

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On topic, I'm pretty sure I've run into a couple of y'all recently.

[path0geN7]

 

On topic, I'm pretty sure I've run into a couple of y'all recently.

 

I ran into you a LONG time ago. It was Ghost Hazard/Geth and you were the Batarian Brawler. I wasn't aware at the time that you were a BSNer since your name here isn't your Origin ID.

 

In any case, it was a good game!

[Sket]

Bumped into Poetry Avenger for a laggy, but successful game against the Reapers. GG man...

[7twozero]

Did I host that match? If that was the case, then I apologize, it's always a shame for me when others experience issues such as lag or glitches, especially on my host.

I'm sure your host was fine, I was having a bad case of the origins.

[PoetryAvenger]

Bumped into Poetry Avenger for a laggy, but successful game against the Reapers. GG man...

Same to you! Stupid double-Banshees on wave 8 nearly got me by blitzing through the side-entrance, only to catch up and finish the job when I got hung up on cover. :|

I've been running into that host (lethal4ces) pretty frequently as of late, too. Sometimes the game is perfectly fine, and sometimes projectile powers decide to randomly float through things...

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

i had a few good gold games earlier with some peeps. not sure if they're bsners but i played with toriko, jay rynchester and kodiak paladin (i think that's their names). i was also kinda suprised to see 3 players with higher challenge points than me since it hardly happens. anyways, if you fellas are reading this, good games. 

[megabeast37215]

Ran into Kaicel trying as hard as possible with his Raider Batsol, and some other guy with a Raider MQI using level IV stuff. Couldn't wait to get out of that lobby..

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Ran into Kaicel trying as hard as possible with his Raider Batsol, and some other guy with a Raider MQI using level IV stuff. Couldn't wait to get out of that lobby..

 

Loooooooooooooool.

[grailseeker91]

Just completed reactor hazard reaper, and had the privilege of playing with the TheNightSlasher. It was a really good game. Probably left him facepalming if he doesn't like AIU's with wraiths. (Sorry I know it's a cheesy class, but I was one extraction away from the challenge and wanted to see if I had gotten the hang of the shotgun infiltrator.) 

[Rabbit11]

It's taking a while for the Shadow to grow on you bc the Shadow F'n sucks. I just started using her for Earth/tech mastery again.. still sucks. Slowest killing infiltrator by far, worst sniper by far. Best melee though.

I dunno. I'm not that strong a player, but I made the Shadow work for me on Silver recently (going for Challenge related stuff also) All melee to be sure, and only used the Hurricane briefly - topped the board that game.

[Kislitsin]

Ran into Kaicel trying as hard as possible with his Raider Batsol, and some other guy with a Raider MQI using level IV stuff. Couldn't wait to get out of that lobby..

Maybe they were experimenting? Or that right is reserved exclusively for you and your adorable fan stinkful force?

TNS, I am with you, Shadow>QFI as a sniper, L2Aim scrubs. Stickies are good on VHI, who has debuff. But afaik, SS can deal as much damage to armor (if not more) as sticky from qfi.

[FullSpe3D]

Met FullSpe3D last night while pugging. I think I've seen them here? They played human adept with arc pistol like a boss.

Lol, I knew that had to be someone's alt. An N7 24 scoring 80k in Gold with a Human Soldier using Valkyrie 1 with no weapon mods or gear is clearly not a first account

 

GG.

[Terminator Force]

Maybe they were experimenting? Or that right is reserved exclusively for you and your adorable fan stinkful force?

TNS, I am with you, Shadow>QFI as a sniper, L2Aim scrubs. Stickies are good on VHI, who has debuff. But afaik, SS can deal as much damage to armor (if not more) as sticky from qfi.

 

No, they probably weren't. They were most likely trying to impress megabeast. You'd do the same, I'd imagine? "Oh, there's megabeast, he's got fans. I'll show him!"

[CptWiigum]

Hah didn't know that you were from here CptWiigum

sould  have known when i joined in the game and everyone removes launchers from their backs

 

Nice pink krogan by the way :3 

 

Haha thanks, great games! I think all krogans should wear pink

 

Most games with ctc91 tends to go well, as that guy can score 200k points with the phaeston!

And as long I don't go down twice in the first round (and stomped on, happended yesterday lol) we should be okay!

[Deerber]

TNS, I am with you, Shadow>QFI as a sniper, L2Aim scrubs. Stickies are good on VHI, who has debuff. But afaik, SS can deal as much damage to armor (if not more) as sticky from qfi.

Sure, even more. Except that it takes 4 times as much to do it and it triggers a CD