Well, with that build it doesn't really matter which weapon you have as long as it's light, does it? I was using Havoc with 99% damage coming from the rifle, so it's a bit different.
The Vindicator worked a lot better with the build than a lot of other light weapons would have. And I got plenty of AR kills. You can't score 160k on Gold just by detonating explosions, except maybe with the Human Adept (unless your teammates are so bad you're effectively soloing, I guess).
The day has finally come when bsn would say that the Vindicator is good.
Behold. The end is nigh.
It's like scoring high with the Phaeston. Doesn't mean it's good, just means the PUGs were terrible.
The day has finally come when bsn would say that the Vindicator is good.
Behold. The end is nigh.
Just for the record... I never said the Vindicator was good - I said it worked. If NuclearTech can say the Scimitar works, I get to say the Vindicator works!
It's like scoring high with the Phaeston. Doesn't mean it's good, just means the PUGs were terrible.
True - It was the perfect PUGstorm. They were terrible enough that I could top score with the Vindicator, but not so bad that I was soloing every wave (which would have ended in a wipe, most likely).
Just for the record... I never said the Vindicator was good
Neither did I. But it's objectively much better than Phaeston. And much worse than Harrier or PPR. Also, I wasn't talking of scoring top, but scoring decently. Big difference. If you want numbers, 100k is decent enough for me. Think I've got 110k in the last game - and I either didn't have an AR amp consumable at all, or had it at lvl 1. So there's even some room for improvement.
Basically, what FTL said ↓↓↓
The day has finally come when bsn would say that the Vindicator is good.
Behold. The end is nigh.
It is a good gun, just not great or excellent.
I have nothing to add to the furious argument raging over the piece of garbage that is the Vindicator (although I believe Miniditka can do well with it - raw talent helps) so I'm going to post on topic. Please forgive me.
Searching randomly landed me in Binary Helix/BiowerPls's game on White vs Cerb. I was a truly crappy AsGuard who needed a whole lot of reviving. I even got taken down by a Centurion who had his back to me. And on extraction I let my heart rule my head and tried to cover one pug reviving the other pug. For my pains I was bitchslapped by a Dragoon and missed the shuttle by 2 seconds.
Sorry for ruining your game with my scrubbiness, although, post-game bad feelings aside, I had a great time 
I was using Havoc with 99% damage coming from the rifle
it's objectively much better than Phaeston
I have nothing to add to the furious argument raging over the piece of garbage that is the Vindicator (although I believe Miniditka can do well with it - raw talent helps) so I'm going to post on topic. Please forgive me.
Searching randomly landed me in Binary Helix/BiowerPls's game on White vs Cerb. I was a truly crappy AsGuard who needed a whole lot of reviving. I even got taken down by a Centurion who had his back to me. And on extraction I let my heart rule my head and tried to cover one pug reviving the other pug. For my pains I was bitchslapped by a Dragoon and missed the shuttle by 2 seconds.
Sorry for ruining your game with my scrubbiness, although, post-game bad feelings aside, I had a great time
We talked about it over the chat scurb 
No need to apologize.
I do thank you all for my 15+ revives medal 
I hate agreeing with the troll, but I have top-scored with the Vindicator on Gold before. Granted, it was with a Human Engineer, so the Vindicator was really just the thing I was doing between fire explosions... but it worked. Build was something like this. It's decent against Geth because it's actually pretty accurate from long ranges if you have 100% stability, and they go down quickly if you can reliably headshot them.
It's been awhile since I've Vindicated...
What if you only went with the stability weapon mod V...saving the armor bonus for something else? Still a bit too much long range kick without that all-out 100% stability?
Else I suppose one could achieve 100% with AR stab mod V plus a Barrage V gear.
It's been awhile since I've Vindicated...
What if you only went with the stability weapon mod V...saving the armor bonus for something else? Still a bit too much long range kick without that all-out 100% stability?
Else I suppose one could achieve 100% with AR stab mod V plus a Barrage V gear.
I was experimenting with mods. Ended up with AP 3 ammo, heavy barrel, piercing mod and Stabilization module I or II for good measure, but I didn't need it (Turian passives!)
Wait wait let me guess. No havoc strike.
Wrong, I've put some points there after all (not initially because I started underleveled; Cryo Blast and passive is my priority). That's why I said 99% and not 100% damage comes from the rifle. But it's not a Havoc Strike build so Strike is more of a panic button.
See how everything I say makes sense and every word is there for a reason? 
I was experimenting with mods. Ended up with AP 3 ammo, heavy barrel, piercing mod and Stabilization module I or II for good measure, but I didn't need it (Turian passives!)
The TSol, TGI, et al can pretty much tame any AR, no question.
But if I'm a Humangineer, I'm fairly obsessed with 3075 barrier points if I'm UUG PUG-ing (cuz Phantoms). I need for my OL to OHK their barriers. Not having a weapon with a power mag means I need my armor slot with a power amp II or III, at least.
Wrong, I've put some points there after all (not initially because I started underleveled; Cryo Blast and passive is my priority). That's why I said 99% and not 100% damage comes from the rifle. But it's not a Havoc Strike build so Strike is more of a panic button.
See how everything I say makes sense and every word is there for a reason?
For me, the Vindicator isnt that horrible..Every time I use it I get the 20 Headshot medal by wave 4 ...there just are better of everything else....Also, I check the who I have played matches with list on xbox almost every other day or so, I havent run into any BSNr's in weeks..I think the last was ClydeInTheShell.
Thanks for stopping by, Shinobu! Some great games, everything went pretty smoothly. Sorry for dropping out, bed time for me.
P. S. Damn, I'm starting to love Havoc as a gun class! Tried Typhoon and Harrier, both work wonders. 25% Cryo Blast damage increase + 30% headshot multiplier + the other Turian passives = pretty good soldier class even without the direct gun damage boosts that some other soldiers have.
Thanks for stopping by, Shinobu! Some great games, everything went pretty smoothly. Sorry for dropping out, bed time for me.
P. S. Damn, I'm starting to love Havoc as a gun class! Tried Typhoon and Harrier, both work wonders. 25% Cryo Blast damage increase + 30% headshot multiplier + the other Turian passives = pretty good soldier class even without the direct gun damage boosts that some other soldiers have.
Good games! Now you know why I like GPS AIU.
It's been awhile since I've Vindicated...
What if you only went with the stability weapon mod V...saving the armor bonus for something else? Still a bit too much long range kick without that all-out 100% stability?
Else I suppose one could achieve 100% with AR stab mod V plus a Barrage V gear.
I don't know, as far as I'm concerned you need 100% stability on the Vindicator. 100% stability makes it pretty easy to get 3 headshots out of a 3-shot burst while ADS. If you're consistently getting headshots with the Vindicator, it's a decent gun. If you're not consistently getting headshots with it, it's a terrible gun, and it's really hard to get consistent headshots without 100% stability. And yes, you can get 100% stability through several routes - Barrage Gear being one of them, Turian passives being another (if you're using a Turian). I don't remember how much the Stability consumable gives you, and you might actually be able to get by with a Level II consumable.
If you're better than I am at controlling the recoil, go ahead and try it with 70% stability. I think burst fire guns are the toughest to compensate for recoil though.
For me, the Vindicator isnt that horrible..Every time I use it I get the 20 Headshot medal by wave 4 ...there just are better of everything else....Also, I check the who I have played matches with list on xbox almost every other day or so, I havent run into any BSNr's in weeks..I think the last was ClydeInTheShell.
I threw mine out the airlock 3yrs ago and havent missed it yet
RidiculousMammal managed to drop into the extraction wave of a Rio/Cerberus game I was in.
Bad, bad timing there. The host and another had quit, or lost connection or whatever, so the extra help on extracting was welcome.
I would have stuck around for the next few games, but I hadn't eaten all day and was starving,
RidiculousMammal managed to drop into the extraction wave of a Rio/Cerberus game I was in.
Bad, bad timing there. The host and another had quit, or lost connection or whatever, so the extra help on extracting was welcome.
I would have stuck around for the next few games, but I hadn't eaten all day and was starving,
Eating is a crutch
Eating is a crutch
Midday meals were punishable by death in the empire.
My Claymore FQE was sat in a lobby waiting for the host Jugg to ready when TornACL's Fury dropped in. He gave me a shout out, kicks were exchanged, and we went to Arvuna where we met a Cerb squad and rekt them, although there was a pair of Turrets that cost us all a few gels. My Sentry Turret killed an Atlas on its own, too
TornACL is a BSNer? Well that explains a lot. Bumped into them a few times in the past, very capable player.
OT, bumped into DontFu_kwithAria over the weekend for the last 30 some seconds of wave 11 and the host bailed before I got out of the loading screen. Also bumped into JGDD for a few rounds.
+1 for using a gag loadout in the first pug.
+1 for headbutting Banshees in the second pug. Pardon me for occasionally forcing them to bubble up, kind of a habit.
+1 for using a Saber in the third pug.
Good games. Cheers.
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