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[Neon Rising Winter]

DomRod95 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

d'awww..

It's adorable how many forumites seem to think that the 30's counts as *old.*

I don't think 30 is old, but I do know that this day in age people think 25 is old. I don't understand it really, I think the closest age to "old" is mid-40s, not even that though to some people. 

Don't make me mow you down with my death-scythe zimmer frame, youngster. Seriously though, mid-40s is what... about half way through your working life where I come from. Not exactly old.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Give us some scars and wrinkles in the character creator so we can make the PC look as old as we want, never mention the age of the protagonist and don't make other NPC's make hints about the players youth / age / appearance.

[lil yonce]

brushyourteeth wrote...
Too bad all of these guys are too old to be considered sexy or capable.

"Aragorn, if you were a true hero you would have taken over Gondor in your teeeeeeens!!!!" *shakes fist*

I'll give you Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Denzel Washington on a good day.

And Young Hollywood strikes back!



Cast of The Hunger Games. Catching Fire out in November! 

True patriots of districts 1-12 right here.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 22 mars 2013 - 03:40 .

[AshenShug4r]

I'd love something like Ezio from AC. Starts off as a naive and self-assured youngster, becomes wiser, more seasoned and grizzled over time. That style isn't the easiest to implement in one game though.

[brushyourteeth]

Youth4Ever wrote...

I'll give you Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Denzel Washington on a good day.

And Young Hollywood strikes back!



Cast of The Hunger Games. Catching Fire out in November! 

LOL - I loved that movie! Though I'd feel weird about hitting the sexy button if our protagonist were actually that age...

[Wrathion]

I think which ever face texture you use should set your age in. There's only like 5 of them in each game i'm sure that wouldn't be too hard. But what do I know ^^
Though if we get anything BE-esq that might mess somethings up. hm...
or mods...or...anything really.

/useful post

[lil yonce]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LOL - I loved that movie! Though I'd feel weird about hitting the sexy button if our protagonist were actually that age...

I think Gale and Cato qualify.  Great looking and adorable action movie cast in general though that play compelling, capable, tough, and hardened teenage characters. Take that Aragorn!

And teen action stars FTW! 

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 22 mars 2013 - 03:50 .

[DragonMage95]

Narrow Margin wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

d'awww..

It's adorable how many forumites seem to think that the 30's counts as *old.*

I don't think 30 is old, but I do know that this day in age people think 25 is old. I don't understand it really, I think the closest age to "old" is mid-40s, not even that though to some people. 

Don't make me mow you down with my death-scythe zimmer frame, youngster. Seriously though, mid-40s is what... about half way through your working life where I come from. Not exactly old.

I know that, I was just saying it in societes point of view:P.

[Frolk]

I'm 28 and just beginning to feel comfortable with taking on serious responsibility, so it's hard for me to see a character who is younger than me leading a group of people to save the world. For me, the ideal age of a protagonist would be late twenties or early thirties.

[Vexille]

29-35 always struck me as a sweet spot... Old enough for it to make sense that they are given great responsibility and people willing to follow, yet young enough where they would still be considered in their "prime"

of course younger or older can fit depending on the story. I though Shepard was kinda perfect age wise in ME. Just felt like a sweet spot/

[Parmida]

20-30

[Ryzaki]

20-30.

Preferably mid twenties.

[omgodzilla]

Made a poll for this. Go ahead and vote.

http://social.biowar...16/polls/44590/

Modifié par omgodzilla, 22 mars 2013 - 06:53 .

[DarkSpiral]

The Woldan wrote...

Give us some scars and wrinkles in the character creator so we can make the PC look as old as we want, never mention the age of the protagonist and don't make other NPC's make hints about the players youth / age / appearance.

This is probably the best overall way to go.  Won't be to shocked if it happens.

Did Hawke's age ever get flat out stated?  I know that Behtany and Carver are actually declared by their mother (as she is grieving over the death of one of them) to be 18, but is it actually SAID how much older the PC is?

And I mean during dialogue, not in the journal.

Modifié par DarkSpiral, 22 mars 2013 - 06:50 .

[Kingthlayer]

It fully depends on what we are. In Origins a young character worked because we were really nobody just a talented individual who stepped up their game when the time came.

Where as somebody like Shepard, had a back story and was already in the military for 10 years. Because they wanted us to become a Spectre early on in the story, an 18 year old couldn't become a Spectre.

I'm looking for something mid 20s, 24-27. The character has experience, but not quite in their prime and the best fights are still ahead.

[grumpymooselion]

Topsider wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

Topsider wrote...

KainD wrote...

Topsider wrote...

I
wonder how many people would play a character who is 50+ years? Ageism
is one of those "isms" that rarely gets mentioned - sexism and racism
are the usual suspects - but a reasonably young and attractive protag is
expected, especially female. No wrinkled war veterans or old
battle-axes, please.

That's because people want
to make their OWN characters from scratch. 50 year old would have a huge
preset life with a very preset character. 

I doubt
people make attractive young characters for that reason alone. Maybe the
protag is a 50 year old farmer that never fought a battle in his/her
life? They would be starting from scratch.

No, it's about appearance - it always is really. Everyone wants their character to look 'nice'. I'm guilty of that myself.

If the farmer is 50 years old, and has no experience, something is very wrong and it makes even less sense for them to be doing anything like the Warden or Hawke did. Not to mention making nearly zero sense that people would listen to him.

Experience does not mean skilled in combat. A farmer would know how to farm, not kill Darkspawn - even if he/she is 50 years old. No different to someone who's 20. But the older person would get more respect and be listened to, unless the youngster is a noble or something. That happens in the real world too.

I'd respond to this fully, but my post already adressed everything you just said . . . but essentially, again, there's no reason for anyone to listen to the fifty year old farmer that somehow has gone 50 years without learning anything, combat related or otherwise. This is how RPGs work when they start you off at level 1, it wouldn't matter if he was a farmer prior, or if he were 50, 60 or 70 he'd still know nothing about farming until you levelled him up to level 2 and gave him the farming knowledge feat. It would be wholly, and totally, out of place.

Having a 50 year old character that doesn't have any skills when he starts off, and doesn't know the first thing about the world or its people - going around asking stupid questions he should already know the answer to after having lived for 50 years, is absurd.

In DA3's case, assuming our protag is the Inquisition leader, does a twenty year old make sense? 

That depends.Does your 30+ Inquisitor start out lacking even basic combat skills, and go around asking everyone what an inquisitor is, what an inquisitor does, what's up with the mages and templars and countless other basic questions about the world, and himself, he should already know the answer to?

The final nail in the coffin is when an NPC answers with, "As you know . . . "

[Sylvius the Mad]

Topsider wrote...

I wonder how many people would play a character who is 50+ years? Ageism is one of those "isms" that rarely gets mentioned - sexism and racism are the usual suspects - but a reasonably young and attractive protag is
expected, especially female. No wrinkled war veterans or old battle-axes, please.

My first playthrough of any fantasy RPG uses the same character.  I've been playing him for many years.

He's 51.

The extent to which a new game will allow me to play that character is an excellent test of how open the character creation system is, and how free the player is to define his character's background.

[Raiil]

I'm perfectly happy with the ambiguous 17-25 thing some RPGs do. I have times where the elder statesman PC is perfectly acceptable, but other times it's fun to be someone who's fairly young and in way over their head.

I'd be happy with a 'non age given' situation. Let your character design do that sort of thing.

[Twisted Path]

Aww, the poll doesn't have a "Let the Player Choose with a Slider" option.

[Pheonix57]

That depends on the character. Here's a rundown of mine--


Warden #1: Mina Surana, Female Elven Mage - Early-Mid twenties, probably 23.
Warden #2: Gale Cousland, Male Human Rogue - Early-Mid twenties, probably 24.
Champion #1: Noah Hawke, Male Human Mage - Mid twenties, probably 26.
Champion #2: Elena Amell, Female Human Rogue - Mid twenties, probably 25.

At the end of DA2, that makes them 30, 31, 33, and 32. Which is good, I think. At the beginning of DA2 we know that Bethany and Carver are 18, and in DA:O I always imagined Alistair to be around 22 or so, because he seemed young and inexperienced (though that may be the Chantry's fault...)

[Deviija]

28-38 is a nice age range to me. Teens and fratboys/sorority girls as saviors is something that really bugs me nine out of ten times. Coming of age stories (re: highschool melodrama) are always going to be relevant, but I'm certainly tired of that being the main theme explored within many games, tv shows, and movies. Moreover, as the average gamer's age (30-37) continues to get older, I think it is not only relevant but important to have the gamespace open up with stories that have older protagonists and related themes of that era of a person's life. Things beyond just idealized war vets that can smash things good.

[drake heath]

Since the game will probably have a somewhat set protagonist it really depends.

Like, if the protagonist is brand new to an organization and inexperienced than early 20s is good, but if they've been around and know what's up than older, 'round mid 30s.

Since they said something about origins once, I think, than I think it should be vague.