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Loghain is an idiot for what he did to Katirel and Maric *spoilers*


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FlintlockJazz

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Would you execute her as well?


Yes I would.

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Azazel005 wrote...

Idealism is not a trait that could protect a fledging nation. Maric's idealism would of course have lead him to want to marry Katriel, and forgive her for her betrayal. It would of course lead him to beleive that being a leader simply meant he had to be just and honorable. His idealism would have cut his leadership brutality short, the nobles as said would not brook an elf so highly placed, an ORLESIAN ASSASSIN elf that had BETRAYED them.

How long before the nobles found out, throttled concessions and very probably attempt to assasinate their "King".

Fereldan was not strong enough to show any weakness, Loghain knew that, Rowan knew that and even if Maric knew it he wouldn't have accepted it whiel he still carried his boyish idealism.


I said before - you cannot tell me that idealism is a weakness. Like a king can't be smart AND idealistic?

Also, if the nobles belived that the elf was wroking for Ferelden from day 1...well, then there WAS no betrayl, now was there?

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I said before - you cannot tell me that idealism is a weakness. Like a king can't be smart AND idealistic?


Looking at kings in history, nope. They usually lose or get stabbed in the back.

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Would you execute her as well?


Yes I would.


All hail king FlinlockJazz then!

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Would you execute her as well?


Yes I would.


All hail king FlinlockJazz then!


Damn right!  Those found not hailing enough will be shot! :devil:

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Lotion Soronarr

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I said before - you cannot tell me that idealism is a weakness. Like a king can't be smart AND idealistic?


Looking at kings in history, nope. They usually lose or get stabbed in the back.


Well, they weren't smart then, were they?

And since we're at it, didn't king get generally stabbed in the back, regardless how idealystic or cinical they were?
I don' recall cynicism or "hardening" working as some sort of a assasination shield.

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Costin_Razvan

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You asked if a king can be smart and idealistic. In history as we know it there isn't such a case.

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

All hail king FlinlockJazz then!


Damn right!  Those found not hailing enough will be shot! :devil:


Death to the despot!

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

You asked if a king can be smart and idealistic. In history as we know it there isn't such a case.


Then you and I know different histories

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Herr Uhl wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

All hail king FlinlockJazz then!


Damn right!  Those found not hailing enough will be shot! :devil:


Death to the despot!


I am not a despot, as long as you hail and do everything I say then you will be fine!  Those not hailing are obviously traitors and need to tbe dealt with!  You do not agree?

BANG

*Waves smoking gun around*  Anyone else want to be a traitor?

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IronWolf1987 wrote...

After reading the Stolen Throne I still don't understand why Loghain wanted Maric to kill her so badly. Yes she betrayed them at West Hill, however, it's not like she was a rebel supporter who was tempted by gold or power, she was an agent hired to work for Severan and the Orlesians from the begining.

And there is the reason right there.  Loghains hatred of the Orlesians.  It was his downfall in the game as well.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

You asked if a king can be smart and idealistic. In history as we know it there isn't such a case.


Then you and I know different histories


Pardon me, but do you study history at uni like I do? I am studying to get a Ph,D in it.

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He was just "hardening" Maric to get the ending he wanted.

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LOL @ Valmy