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[Wulfram]

The Orlesians we've been supposed to take seriously as heroes have been Riordan* and Leliana, and I think there accents are generally approved of.

[Celtic man51]

I approve of zee french akzents!

[AlanC9]

Wulfram wrote...

The Orlesians we've been supposed to take seriously as heroes have been Riordan* and Leliana, and I think there accents are generally approved of.

I remember some fools talking about Leliana's "fake accent," actually.

[Twisted Path]

Someone recently suggested that the whole game should be in french with subtitles. That would actually be fine with me but I imagine I'm in the minority.

Reminds me of how Knights of the Old Republic had a lot of made up alien-speak with subtitles, though that was a bit different. They seemed to say "Mucha-shaka-packa" and other looped phrases a lot.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 20 mars 2013 - 11:19 .

[Orian Tabris]

ForThessia wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

People have got to get over themselves. There is nothing wrong with the French accent. Trust me, there are worse accents out there. Examples? Nasaly Australian, Canadian and American accents, Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English (to a degree) and Kiwi accents. But the French accent isn't annoying.

The French have a more refined accent (as per their general attitude) than most. I'm looking at Americans, specifically those that haven't been trained vocally (i.e. actors and singers).

My guess is it's more of a prejudice against the French, rather than an actual distaste for the accent.

Not everything is about prejudice or racism believe it or not<_<. The accent as it was presented in some of the over the top Orlesian characters(Isolde, Delancet, etc) was nothing short of comical.

I never said racism. If there's something racists don't look down upon, it's somebody's accent. It's purely different skin colours and sometimes cultures.

Besides, what the OP is talking about, is not that some of the Orlesian characters so far have been awful, it's that he doesn't want to have to listen to more than a few Orlesians in the entire game (not totally over-expectational, mind, since it's about mages and templars, not Orlais).

[Sideria]

Well I'm french and I'm playing in English (because I don't like French dubbing in general).
And the orlesian accent sound a lot like of what we are trying to completly eliminate during our English course, in even more exagerated
And it's reminds me of all my flaw of when I'm tying to speak English without being drunk xD
But with a litte self derision, it's amuse me.

Modifié par Sideria, 20 mars 2013 - 11:50 .

[Gill Kaiser]

Orian Tabris wrote...

People have got to get over themselves. There is nothing wrong with the French accent. Trust me, there are worse accents out there. Examples? Nasaly Australian, Canadian and American accents, Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English (to a degree) and Kiwi accents. But the French accent isn't annoying.

The French have a more refined accent (as per their general attitude) than most. I'm looking at Americans, specifically those that haven't been trained vocally (i.e. actors and singers).

My guess is it's more of a prejudice against the French, rather than an actual distaste for the accent.

What are you talking about? Pretty much all the Orlesian accents in the Dragon Age series have been fake, incredibly exaggerated stereotypical french accents. Saying you don't like them isn't racist at all.

The only Orlesian character who had a genuine french accent was Leliana, though hers was also unique because it was a anglicised french accent, as befitted her background.

[AshenShug4r]

BeatoSama wrote...

I want a french accented protagonist myself. Though I want it to be a real accent like Leliana's.

This. Robert de Sable from AC1, yes please.

[SeismicGravy]

Pious_Augustine wrote...

PC with an Orlesian accent?? Terrible risk, but the prize.

C'est magnifique.

[Goneaviking]

I've never understood why the makers of movies, and presumably games, don't just hire actors who already have the accents they're supposed to portray. With the thousands of Australian actors who've tried their luck in California we're still far more likely to see an American in those roles making us wince while they try to mimic our accent.

Presumably it'd be easier in games where the acting is done in a sound booth or whatever, rather than running around some identifiable locale.

My hope is for proper french actors with genuine french accents playing Orlesian characters who aren't stereotypically cheesy cyphers. Would also not object to a well acted Orlesian PC.

[Henioo]

We could always get German accents. I.e. the Divine in DOTS.

[grumpymooselion]

I'd like them to keep the thick accent, maybe even lay it on a bit thicker. You could have a 'lower class' accent that was less thick, but, even if players like that better, they should be sure to make it seem within the context of the game that the less thick accent is a sign of being uneducated and low class . . . because only the nobles can have a thick, awesome, accent.

[Mr.House]

AlanC9 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

The Orlesians we've been supposed to take seriously as heroes have been Riordan* and Leliana, and I think there accents are generally approved of.

I remember some fools talking about Leliana's "fake accent," actually.

How can a French woman have a fake french accent?

[Angrywolves]

I do love Leliana's accent. The lady that does her voice resmbles one of my female coworkers. lol. Obviously it complicates matters for Gaider having to find the right voice actor he wants.

[gw2005]

I have no problem with accents, so long as they're real. I agree that fake french accents are terrible. Since Bioware is in Canada, can't they just go to Quebec and hire actors from there? It'll do well for the Orlesian commoners accent

[Wulfram]

Mr.House wrote...

How can a French woman have a fake french accent?

Well, Daphne on Frasier had a fake british accent despite being british.  Largely because it was a different british accent.

(Doesn't apply to Leliana/Corinne Kempa.  Possibly just people being put off by the fact that she's also got a fait bit of british mixed in there.  Or people just mixing up "fake accent" with "I don't like the accent/the voice acting in general"

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 mars 2013 - 12:37 .

[syllogi]

Mr.House wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

The Orlesians we've been supposed to take seriously as heroes have been Riordan* and Leliana, and I think there accents are generally approved of.

I remember some fools talking about Leliana's "fake accent," actually.

How can a French woman have a fake french accent?

When my cousins who were born and raised in France, learned English, they were taught to speak it with a British accent...because that was considered "proper."  If they're speaking English with a "Pepe LePew" exaggerated accent, they're being silly and making fun of what foreigners think of the French.

It's like hearing Americans speak Spanish with a very "American" accent.  They can be understood, but it's preferable to speak the way the natives do.

[Orian Tabris]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

People have got to get over themselves. There is nothing wrong with the French accent. Trust me, there are worse accents out there. Examples? Nasaly Australian, Canadian and American accents, Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English (to a degree) and Kiwi accents. But the French accent isn't annoying.

The French have a more refined accent (as per their general attitude) than most. I'm looking at Americans, specifically those that haven't been trained vocally (i.e. actors and singers).

My guess is it's more of a prejudice against the French, rather than an actual distaste for the accent.

What are you talking about? Pretty much all the Orlesian accents in the Dragon Age series have been fake, incredibly exaggerated stereotypical french accents. Saying you don't like them isn't racist at all.

The only Orlesian character who had a genuine french accent was Leliana, though hers was also unique because it was a anglicised french accent, as befitted her background.

Why do people think I was referring to racism? I was referring to prejudice not racism.

I've taken these meanings from Dictionary.com:

Prejudice

[prej-uh-dis] Show IPA noun, verb, prej·u·diced, prej·u·dic·ing. noun
1. an unfavourable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 21 mars 2013 - 01:05 .

[Blackrising]

I can live with the accents if they're done well.

I won't like it, but I'm not going to storm Bioware headquarters.
French accents (and French in general) just sounds awful to my ears. I don't know why. But that's a personal problem, so who am I to tell Bioware what to do?

[Sideria]

Blackrising wrote...

I can live with the accents if they're done well.

I won't like it, but I'm not going to storm Bioware headquarters.
French accents (and French in general) just sounds awful to my ears. I don't know why. But that's a personal problem, so who am I to tell Bioware what to do?

Je suis désolé

[philippe willaume]

Wulfram wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

How can a French woman have a fake french accent?

Well, Daphne on Frasier had a fake british accent despite being british.  Largely because it was a different british accent.

(Doesn't apply to Leliana/Corinne Kempa.  Possibly just people being put off by the fact that she's also got a fait bit of british mixed in there.  Or people just mixing up "fake accent" with "I don't like the accent/the voice acting in general"

Well i was jousting in southern england, and I was told of for putting crappy  fake French accent and I am French...
There are so many script show that they expected the French dude to speak like inspecteur Clouzeau. (we do competitrive jousting, so there is not goody or baddy)
So it is more a matter of expectation
phil

[grumpymooselion]

It that accusation something that only occurs with specific accents? I've never once been accused of putting on a fake Southern Accent. Granted it only tends to pop up when I'm annoying, excited, angry, joking or being sarcastic . . . most of the time I don't even notice except that people point it out because they think it's funny I cover up my accent the majority of the time. As such, the way I usually, supposedly normally, talk is the fake in a way but again that's an honest loss of my old accent due to travel. I seem to pick up accents into my speech without even realizing it. I'm not sure if that's annoying or not from my perspective.

Modifié par Janan Pacha, 21 mars 2013 - 01:51 .

[drake heath]

syllogi wrote...
When my cousins who were born and raised in France, learned English, they were taught to speak it with a British accent...because that was considered "proper."  If they're speaking English with a "Pepe LePew" exaggerated accent, they're being silly and making fun of what foreigners think of the French.

It's like hearing Americans speak Spanish with a very "American" accent.  They can be understood, but it's preferable to speak the way the natives do.

Yeah, I the languages classes I've take they teach you to say it in the native accent.
Otherwise it just doesn't sound good.

Most people with accents tend to learn the language second hand, or didn't learn the pronunciantions.