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[Linkenski]

 Hey guys.
I just wanted to hear your opinion on Anderson's overall character in Mass Effect 3. I noticed right away at the beginning that he didn't use the same rhethorics nor did he try to be polite like he used to in ME1 and ME2. Also, we shouldn't forget that he was used as a plot-device for manipulating shepard to chose the Destroy ending in the endgame, because apparently he is "only able to see the world down the barrel of a gun" now.

In extension to this i also noticed that Keith David, the voice actor behind Anderson, has a different way of describing his character to every game:

ME3 VO cast trailer:

(Keith David talks around 2:45)

ME1 VO Reveal trailer:

(Right around the beginning)

In ME1 he says Anderson is a virtuous guy with an interesting past. I always thought Anderson seemed very patient and diplomatic in the first two games, and he keeps his head cool, even in desperate moments.

In ME3 he describes Anderson as a "man's man". Notice that Anderson swears a whole lot more in ME3, and has a more sort of laid back attitude. In comparison to 1, he seems a whole lot more naive in this game as he tells Shepard to "do whatever the HELL it takes to help stop the Reapers".

Obviously they made a few changes to Anderson in ME3, and one of the reasons are that his original writer left in ME2, so Mac wrote him in ME3. I personally think the most important thing about sequels are when the lore and the characters are reaffirmed rather that "fixed" and therefore i do not like the change about Anderson's character.

But anyway I just wanted to know if you guys feel the change is for the better or not. Discuss!

[Taboo]

There's a war on you know. He has to put on his war face.

[essarr71]

People act differently depending on their responsibilities and level of comfort.

[Makrys]

There is no war. There is only the harvest.

[essarr71]

Makrys wrote...

There is no war. There is only the harvest.

When Anderson curses, is he at war?

[Linkenski]

essarr71 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

There is no war. There is only the harvest.

When Anderson curses, is he at war?

...or is he simply doing what he was written to do?

[NCommand]

Anderson always seemed consistent in my opinion, then again he was always the only one putting up with my ruthless Shepard besides a few party members

[Giantdeathrobot]

Yeah, but he was born in London you know.

[Absaroka]

I wouldn't necessarily say he always kept it cool in ME1. He certainly is one of the nicer and more reasonable authority figures in the story but there is a slight undercurrent of frustration and impatience in some of his actions.

Anderson clearly expresses some degree of anger towards the Council if you press him on the issue of their relationship with the Alliance. He's also fairly quick to jump to conclusions regarding the Reaper threat despite the fact that Udina tells him it would undermine their credibility in the Council's eyes and it would be more prudent to determine exactly what Saren's angle is beyond a voice recording (though he is of course right, and the Council is in denial no matter what). Most notably, he is in favor of releasing control of the Normandy by way of Udina's office rather than C-Sec; while it really is the more sound option, it's also apparent that Anderson prefers it in part because of a grudge against Udina.

This frustration is also apparent in ME2 if you have the Lair of the Shadow Broker dlc. You can find videos of him in arguing with Udina to the point of physical confrontation and files indicate he's drinking heavily in response to the behavior of the Council races.

While I don't like that your choice to make him Councilor was undone in ME3 I can understand him being being less formal now as he's not operating as a diplomat anymore (a role he never really seemed to like). And given how all his attempts to warn everyone about the Reaper threat amounted to little along with how bleak the situation is I don't really blame him for cursing more.

[N7KnightSabre]

Totally disagree. Anderson is one of the best characters in the franchise. I think his voice actor, Keith David, is amazing. He has the ability to put so much integrity and honor into his characters and he is a big element for the character. I don't think the writing of Anderson is inconsistent from the previous games. All around great character.

[Kabooooom]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

Yeah, but he was born in London you know.

...really?

[Mcfly616]

So you're saying one can't be a man's man and virtuous at the same time? Seems like you're stereotyping....


Anderson seemed like the same old person to me. Demeanor tends to change based on situations. The first 2 games he was playing politics....the last game he's leading a resistance. Ofcourse, who the hell changes their tone after going from living comfortably to fighting an unstoppable force while their whole species and homeworld are facing annihilation? That's just stupid....

[Rikketik]

I always regarded him in ME1 and ME2 as if he was wearing a mask most of the time. He was polite, he was patient, but I got the feeling that he only acted like that because it was expected of him in his job as one of the representatives of humanity. Nobody at the Citadel would take him seriously if he acted like the soldier he really was.

In ME3, however, not only the situation changed but also the people he's surrounded with on a daily basis. He needs to be the leader he was during the First Contact War, someone who tells, and gets told, crappy jokes at or by his soldiers to ease the tension. I think that's the real Anderson and that's what made him admiral in the first place. If anything, Anderson wasn't Anderson in ME1 and ME2, but he is in ME3.

[iOnlySignIn]

Everyone is a lot dumber in ME3.

Most notably Shepard and TIM. Anderson is only a minor case.

[Oni Changas]

Because

[ThatDancingTurian]

The guy punched out a turian in ME1. He's always had a rough side. He's apparently not that diplomatic, since regardless of your choices in ME1 he needs Udina to help him out.

[GoldenPersona]

Oddly enough I find him to be the most consistent throughout the entire series. Everyone else either has a strange personality overhaul, or they went through character development. The only thing that changes with Anderson is the postion he is in in ME3. Imagine Anderson trying to lead troops with his laid back political mask and that fancy diplomat suit...not only would morale suffer but no one would take him seriously. Anderson is a soldier at heart, and ME3 finally let him be a soldier.

I just wish he could have been a party member at least once in the entire series.

Modifié par GoldenPersona, 21 mars 2013 - 07:15 .

[Eterna]

Why do people think that characters have to remain the same, that they shouldn't grow or develp or it is a continuity problem? I assure you that you're probably a different person than you were 3 years ago.

Personally I'd find it incredibly boring if the characters remained the same in each game, the fact they develop over the trilogy is what gives them depth. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 21 mars 2013 - 07:26 .

[ContinentTurtle]

GoldenPersona wrote...

I just wish he could have been a party member at least once in the entire series.

Technically he is when you flee Earth. It's not a whole lot, and it's temporary, but he is there.