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[Ramsutin]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...


3. Mass Effect is built around space magic, and your suggestions remove the best parts of said space magic. That won't be well received, even by the people who want some PvP modes.

[Omega_Spectre]

herculeswill22 wrote...

Omega_Spectre wrote...

herculeswill22 wrote...

Omega_Spectre wrote...

Yeah, I read it. Still think it's wack. Blarg, blarg, mock, mock.

You weren't reading very closely if you still think it's CoD. You're entitled to like or not like it, but making unsubstantiated claims just makes you look like a fool.

And you're an even bigger fool if you think this won't turn into a Mass Effect version of CoD. Another mindless PVP shooter filled with campers, map glitchers, etc. And the only thing the "Epic Pwnrs" care about is their K/D ratio.

I'll survive being called a fool by you.

I'm glad you will survive Mrs. Gaynor. More of your special, passive aggresive"witty" comments please!! 

Modifié par Omega_Spectre, 22 mars 2013 - 09:35 .

[january42]

Just because staggering exists doesn't mean you spend all of your time staggered. Either way, if it does turn out that the staggering is too much, just like the rogue patch it can be fixed fairly easily.

After reading all your posts....why would anyone leave cover? It sounds like you would just get a case where teams would bunker down, and anyone who broke cover would be killed.

Given how quickly you die in this game, you would basicly have to respawn immedialy, so it would be like the old tournament games. (kill counts or objectives at the end).


Honestly, the PvP thing has been done to death. I'd rather more intersting co-op modes than a PvP mode that would basicly be an entirely different game. Story rather than Balance has always been biowares strongpoint really. I'd rather them try to incorperate more of that into the game than try to do something they arn't good at anyway. 

To listen to people here, ME4 would need a RPG mode, Co-op mode and PvP mode.
To design a good PvP game something has to go, so they are either gonna do a good RPG with a a**/2  PvP mode or a good PvP game with a a**/2 RPG mode.  The only way you could have any overlap would be to design the system around PvP and then build the RPG and co-op on top of that.  And that would basicly lose alot of what makes mass effect interesting.

If they are gonna do a PvP mode, I think the best way to do it would be as an entirely seperate game.  You could maybe share data over the servers in some way(maybe levels transfer or something), but that is it.

[jamdjedi]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...



Joke aside. Let Bioware decide.

that is soo win

[xtorma]

herculeswill22 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

herculeswill22 wrote...

Just because staggering exists doesn't mean you spend all of your time staggered. Either way, if it does turn out that the staggering is too much, just like the rogue patch it can be fixed fairly easily.

Every 3 seconds is a lot of stagger, and we have a lot of abilities that can stagger even if you remove the stagger from a couple of them.

The Rogue thing required multiple expansions to be fixed =P

Of the sample abilities I listed, only a couple have stagger attached to them, and they are weak, low-to-no damage abilities. It's not a complete list by any means, but only a couple stagger powers are needed, so other powers would have other effects and no stagger. There's little reason to import all ME3 powers into the next game, many of them would be discarded completely for PVP.

Now we are back to changing what is, and what people who are still here like about the game. I wouldn't mind if they could keep it completly seperate from co-op modes, including how the powers work, but then it wouldn't be Mass Effect as we have come to view it. It would just be another pvp game with different skins.

I am sure it would be enjoyed by some people, but it would require a total rework of the game, which may turn out to alienate many more.

i like all the powers

[Geist.H]

The very fabric of Mass Effect gameplay is not balanced/compatible with PvP, even if any of those "ideas" seem to work on paper, they would definitely be exploitable/broken/unbalanced ingame.

Humans being able to swap character build on a whim mid-battle ? Really ? This is like, the most unfair advantage you can ever implement in a PvP game. I don't even know how OP can believe in his own stuff when he brings forth things like that. Let's see..

Tech guy hides to charge up his overload, manages to do it, overload the other guy through cover, then Implant swap to soldier, throw a grenade and goes for the kill, free win.

Tech guy cannot charge his Tech ability, he dies, unless he is human, then he just Implant swaps because Tech is useless unless you can charge up.

Let's not forget that all established mechanics/classes have to be scrapped for those.

[GordianKnot42]

Good read, good ideas. I just don't think it's Mass Effect-ey enough.

[Draining Dragon]

You said pvp wtf no i dunt care wut u hav 2 say

[Rebel_Raven]

Read the entire 7 pages including opening post.

My thoughts remain against PvP. Why? Most of my thoughts were already said, and argued for by others.

[RxP4IN]

ITT: OP's bad idea, objectively and rightfully mocked, OP's stubbornness

[CobraJet97]

Legitimately everything Cyonan said. I have zero interest in PVP and know that I would be gone if it were implemented. I own a lot of PVP games and almost never, ever play them. And never in public matches. I want to play Mass Effect to use ridiculous space magic.

[LoboFH]

Asymmetric PvP would be the only option, like Left4Dead versus or Primal Carnage or Natural Selection.

[MajorStupidity]

Many other games have a PvP system in place... why do we need it in Mass Effect. Too many developers are already pushing PvP into games where it is not really needed ME does not need it.

[darkblade]

Omega_Spectre wrote...

herculeswill22 wrote...

Omega_Spectre wrote...

Yeah, I read it. Still think it's wack. Blarg, blarg, mock, mock.

You weren't reading very closely if you still think it's CoD. You're entitled to like or not like it, but making unsubstantiated claims just makes you look like a fool.

And you're an even bigger fool if you think this won't turn into a Mass Effect version of CoD. Another mindless PVP shooter filled with campers, map glitchers, etc. And the only thing the "Epic Pwnrs" care about is their K/D ratio.

Yeah because we don't already have campers and map glitchers in significant numbers...

Oh whats this... camping was so bad on one map that bioware had to change it.
oh whats this... camping in general was such a strong tactic that dedicated cover buster units were added

So scoreboard peen changes to K/D peen... difference from now?

[Mystical_Gaming]

no pvp for Mass Effect today, tomorrow, or ever please. It's not about if pvp can work but how people play in pvp games is what cannot be fixed or work. Mass Effect games are my way to get away from all the elitists that are in games like BF3 and Halo. Sure there are still some elitists in ME3 but they aren't as bad as the ones in pvp games since they only have screenshots of end game score to flaunt around right now. Imagine how annoying pvp in Mass Effect would be with every single player calling eachother bad over some stupid stats.

and no, I'm not some player that is bad at fps games and cries when I meet some tryhard elitist. I'm usually the one racking up the absurd kill count making players rage quit from games. I'm just tired of players screaming at eachother for no other reason than to say they are better for the sake of showing off and putting others down. It's annoying and gets old fast. ME3 mp is relaxing right now. Nobody cares if you only play bronze or go all out on platinum, and if they do they need to get over themselves and seriosuly have a reality check. Everyone can play and have fun. I'd rather not have this ruined.


no thanks

[Marek Intan]

No. Just no. The tech and biotic mechanics sound like a pain, and the customization options seem way too shallow.

[MrWookie47]

[MrWookie47]

Seriously people, this thread deserves gifs until OP opens this thread and is like

[DHKany]

 

[skergx120]

[skergx120]

[Megadawg169]

Sorry Bioware has already stated that PVP will not happen based on that they feel that it goes against the tone of Mass Effect. It suppose to be about teamwork and co-operation. Not competitiveness, PvP would not be true to the overlying tone of the series. Doesn't matter if it can be lore friendly or balanced to work. Bioware had already stated that they don't want it in there game.

[Happy Shepard]

Power combos removed?

Beaten with a dead horse, thrown out of airlock and reported. DOUBLE reported.

Now get out.

[Kittstalkur]

Briefly skimming: It sounds like you want Shadowrun.

You could just go play Shadowrun.

[BarrettXM]

I read all of it. I think its an interesting idea but it seems like Humans or Krogan would be overpowered. And it would be unlikely that it would become a fad or that many people would play it because not only do most Mass Effect fans prefer the singleplayer part, they would play something like Battlefield or Call of Duty if they wanted something that involves PvP. Games like those are made by people with experience at multiplayer.

Also, BioWare should avoid attempting PvP(in a main Mass Effect game at least) when they can barely do well with co-op.

Modifié par BarrettXM, 10 avril 2013 - 09:36 .