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[Osena109]

 I saw somthing were EA plans too add micro transactions too all new upcomeing games am long time Bioware fanboy i own just about every game Bioware has come out with but this has got me little uneasy if its true

[Ninja Stan]

Why does it make you uneasy? If you don't like microtransactions, don't use them. I assume that they will not be necessary in order to complete the base game.

[Osena109]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Why does it make you uneasy? If you don't like microtransactions, don't use them. I assume that they will not be necessary in order to complete the base game.

you never know that is all that can be said mate

[Wrathion]

"assume"? is it possible to be more...certain?

[Osena109]

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

"assume"? is it possible to be more...certain?

that is vary logical

[Osena109]

The Wolf Man wrote...

Ha. Wow. I read that EA was voted the worst company in America. That means they beat out AT&T which is pretty damn bad.

Wow i did not know that but this is not to be a troll thread

[Scarlet Rabbi]

Hey now, the EA execs have estate and yacht payments to keep up with, stop being so unreasonable. Your gamer entitlement is showing.

[Osena109]

Scarlet Rabbi wrote...

Hey now, the EA execs have estate and yacht payments to keep up with, stop being so unreasonable. Your gamer entitlement is showing.

That is  unfortunate  but still no reason to put  MTs in to retail game that cost 60 bucks free to play i have no issue's with

[Wrathion]

The Wolf Man wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

The Wolf Man wrote...

Ha. Wow. I read that EA was voted the worst company in America. That means they beat out AT&T which is pretty damn bad.

Wow i did not know that but this is not to be a troll thread

How can the truth be trolling? Read for yourself my friend:

http://news.cnet.com...to-make-amends/

But it has nothing to do with his thread so...

[Osena109]

I Apologize Wolf

Modifié par Osena109, 22 mars 2013 - 01:34 .

[Enigmatick]

Osena109 wrote...

Scarlet Rabbi wrote...

Hey now, the EA execs have estate and yacht payments to keep up with, stop being so unreasonable. Your gamer entitlement is showing.

That is unfortunate but still no reason to put MTs in to retail game that cost 60 bucks free to play i have no issue's with

I'm guessing English isn't first language? He was being sarcastic.

Also I'm pretty sure that EA backpedaled and said that MTs would only be in mobile games

[AshedMan]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Why does it make you uneasy? If you don't like microtransactions, don't use them. I assume that they will not be necessary in order to complete the base game.

Microtransactions carry the very high likelihood that aspects of the game will be tweaked to make purchasing items more desireable.  That might mean that leveling curves are artificially inflated (to sell experience potions), items are more rare (to promote purchasing them), less variability in character design (to promote the selling of cosmetic items), etc.  I'd argue that such adjustments negatively impact the base game.  

Modifié par AshedMan, 22 mars 2013 - 01:36 .

[10K]

 Hey if it's the same as in ME MP, where you have a choice of real money or in game money I have no problem with it. haven't spent a penny in MP. If they're not locking any of the in game features I'm cool.

[Osena109]

Enigmatick wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Scarlet Rabbi wrote...

Hey now, the EA execs have estate and yacht payments to keep up with, stop being so unreasonable. Your gamer entitlement is showing.

That is unfortunate but still no reason to put MTs in to retail game that cost 60 bucks free to play i have no issue's with

I'm guessing English isn't first language? He was being sarcastic.

Also I'm pretty sure that EA backpedaled and said that MTs would only be in mobile games

Dead space 3 has those micro transactions and i am Italian

[Fast Jimmy]

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

"assume"? is it possible to be more...certain?

Agreed.

It is not "required" to beat DA:O or DA2 with potions or injury kits. It is not "required" to bring your companions along with you in your party. It is not "required" to give a happy ending away for free. You can play, beat and complete DA:O and DA2 without any of these things. Microtransactions to do any of them would not be all that much different than the type of mindset that would be "not very price sensitive at that time" as talked about by former EA CEO here.

Microtransactions bother me because it is not a matter of IF games will cross the line and make a game unplayable without paying more, but WHEN. Just like advocates of always-online DRM said "there is no way a game company would put DRM into a game and then fail to have the servers ready at launch," people now say "there is no way a game company would put microtransactions in for things like using a health potion in combat, or bringing more than one companion with you in a party-based game." Yeah, it sounds so stupid that no one would do it... until you have multiple companies and games launched with it.

Poor planning, shady marketing and even incomplete testing can result in games coming out with these features that become the "sky is falling" tales that no one believes can happen until it has happened and everyone has egg on their face. People call opponents crazies in tin-foil hats, but always forget that greed, incompetence and/or just plain bad luck by the design team can have a game come out with an abomination of a scheme to separate the player from their wallet and it not be known by many players until they have bought the game and have been screwed hard.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 22 mars 2013 - 01:42 .

[Enigmatick]

Osena109 wrote...

Enigmatick wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Scarlet Rabbi wrote...

Hey now, the EA execs have estate and yacht payments to keep up with, stop being so unreasonable. Your gamer entitlement is showing.

That is unfortunate but still no reason to put MTs in to retail game that cost 60 bucks free to play i have no issue's with

I'm guessing English isn't first language? He was being sarcastic.

Also I'm pretty sure that EA backpedaled and said that MTs would only be in mobile games

Dead space 3 has those micro transactions and i am Italian

This statement was made after DS3, although John Riccitello was the one who made it. 

[Enigmatick]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

"assume"? is it possible to be more...certain?

Agreed.

It is not "required" to beat DA:O or DA2 with potions or injury kits. It is not "required" to bring your companions along with you in your party. It is not "required" to give a happy ending away for free. You can play, beat and complete DA:O and DA2 without any of these things. Microtransactions to do any of them would not be all that much different than the type of mindset that would be "not very price sensitive at that time" as talked about by former EA CEO here.

Microtransactions bother me because it is not a matter of IF games will cross the line and make a game unplayable without paying more, but WHEN. Just like advocates of always-online DRM said "there is no way a game company would put DRM into a game and then fail to have the servers ready at launch," people now say "there is no way a game company would put microtransactions in for things like using a health potion in combat, or bringing more than one companion with you in a party-based game." Yeah, it sounds so stupid that no one would do it... until you have multiple companies and games launched with it.

Poor planning, shady marketing and even incomplete testing can result in games coming out with these features that become the "sky is falling" tales that no one believes can happen until it has happened and everyone has egg on their face. People call opponents crazies in tin-foil hats, but always forget that greed, incompetence and/or just plain bad luck by the design team can have a game come out with an abomination of a scheme to separate the player from their wallet and it not be known by many players until they have bought the game and have been screwed hard.

A good example of this is SW:ToRtanic where they strip away every feature that isn't absolutely necessary for the game to function unless you subscribe

[Osena109]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

"assume"? is it possible to be more...certain?

Agreed.

It is not "required" to beat DA:O or DA2 with potions or injury kits. It is not "required" to bring your companions along with you in your party. It is not "required" to give a happy ending away for free. You can play, beat and complete DA:O and DA2 without any of these things. Microtransactions to do any of them would not be all that much different than the type of mindset that would be "not very price sensitive at that time" as talked about by former EA CEO here.

Microtransactions bother me because it is not a matter of IF games will cross the line and make a game unplayable without paying more, but WHEN. Just like advocates of always-online DRM said "there is no way a game company would put DRM into a game and then fail to have the servers ready at launch," people now say "there is no way a game company would put microtransactions in for things like using a health potion in combat, or bringing more than one companion with you in a party-based game." Yeah, it sounds so stupid that no one would do it... until you have multiple companies and games launched with it.

Poor planning, shady marketing and even incomplete testing can result in games coming out with these features that become the "sky is falling" tales that no one believes can happen until it has happened and everyone has egg on their face. People call opponents crazies in tin-foil hats, but always forget that greed, incompetence and/or just plain bad luck by the design team can have a game come out with an abomination of a scheme to separate the player from their wallet and it not be known by many players until they have bought the game and have been screwed hard.

Am deeply saddened by what has happin to gameing i used to buy game each time i got payed now i pick and choose  i might buy new game  2 or 3 times a year

[Solmanian]

The Wolf Man wrote...

Ha. Wow. I read that EA was voted the worst company in America. That means they beat out AT&T which is pretty damn bad.

And it has since been toted by everyone claiming that gamers are childish morons. The think that EA is worse than the bank that kicked people out of their homes, and took their pensions. Hardly gamers best moment...  I wouldn't raise that issue again if you intend to be taken seriously. Just a friendly advice, not trying to tell you what to think.

[AlanC9]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Just like advocates of always-online DRM said "there is no way a game company would put DRM into a game and then fail to have the servers ready at launch," people now say "there is no way a game company would put microtransactions in for things like using a health potion in combat, or bringing more than one companion with you in a party-based game." 

I don't see this as being a serious worry. It's not like the inadequate-servers thing is an experience EA's going to want to repeat.

[Solmanian]

Eh, just dump it in the multiplayer like ME3. That way allthe things the "hardcore" players hate will be in the same place...