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How about Liara's child in ME4?


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#51
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Gangnam Style wrote...

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Is it rape if a future generation stores your genetic code and uses it in the future? I'm just not seeing how Liara having Shepard's kid without consent is rape, amoral yes, but there's no forced sexual action upon Shepard him/herself


yes


Well it seems ill fitting considering rape is defined as sexual assault, I'm just feeling we're trying to place a human term upon a very alien concept

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Yeah no. It still wouldn't be Shepard's decision. Garrus can't go "Oh go ahead and have Shepard's kid without getting her permission in the matter, it's totally fine bro" that's incredibly wrong.


thanks for the input: will modify scenario.

k how about this:
garrus your li or any other li for example meets liara. talks about shepard. then "your li" asks liara to have the child and your Li would take care of it after the child is born. this out of some sense of deep love for you:)

note: that it was your LI that asked liara to have the child.

-well this all assuming that shep is no longer around.

but yeah it wouldnt be your choice or a choice forced upon you. is it cool?

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 22 mars 2013 - 10:05 .


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...yeah okay, I'm convinced you lot are trolls or just hardcore Liaramances (which in some ways is even worse). I can't deal with this moronic debate anymore, I'm out.

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Artifex_Imperius wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Yeah no. It still wouldn't be Shepard's decision. Garrus can't go "Oh go ahead and have Shepard's kid without getting her permission in the matter, it's totally fine bro" that's incredibly wrong.


thanks for the input: will modify scenario.

k how about this:
garrus your li or any other li for example meets liara. talks about shepard. then "your li" asks liara to have the child and your Li would take care of it after the child is born. this out of some sense of deep love for you:)

note: that it was your LI that asked liara to have the child.

-well this all assuming that shep is no longer around.

but yeah it wouldnt be your choice or a choice forced upon you. is it cool?


Liara should just make a baby with Shep's LI instead.

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No.



I don't want the next game to have anything to do with the Shepard Trilogy whatsoever. I'm fine with overhearing some npc's talking about "The Shepard" Legend, but I don't want to see any faces or any relatives to any of the characters in the Shepard Trilogy. It's a big galaxy, no reason to make it seem any smaller than it already does.


I hope the Shepard Trilogy stands on its own.

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

Rhayak wrote...

Gangnam Style wrote...

it also implies rape



No it doesn't. Unless you have an utterly one-track mind that sees "rape" whenever a given situation is slightly unexplained.


Stealing someones DNA without their permission to have their kid is rape.


But you know that only the mother's DNA is passed on, yes? It's simply "randomized" with the help of a partner.

Modifié par Barquiel, 22 mars 2013 - 10:20 .


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I thought everyone got the memo that "ME4" is in reality Mass Effect (rebooted) as in, starting over the IP

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Mcfly616 wrote...

No.



I don't want the next game to have anything to do with the Shepard Trilogy whatsoever. I'm fine with overhearing some npc's talking about "The Shepard" Legend, but I don't want to see any faces or any relatives to any of the characters in the Shepard Trilogy. It's a big galaxy, no reason to make it seem any smaller than it already does.


I hope the Shepard Trilogy stands on its own.


This.

As much as I like the characters from ME 1 - 3 I do not want to see or hear from them again. If they're even still alive in the next game, I do not even want to know that. Leave them in Shep's trilogy.

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

I thought everyone got the memo that "ME4" is in reality Mass Effect (rebooted) as in, starting over the IP


Huh? Did I miss something?:huh:

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Barquiel wrote...

But you know that only the mother's DNA is passed on, yes? It's simply "randomized" with the help of a partner.


and yet it is still doing something without shepard's consent

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No definitely not. Don't romance Liara, don't want railroaded kid with Shep storyline.

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Gangnam Style wrote...

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But you know that only the mother's DNA is passed on, yes? It's simply "randomized" with the help of a partner.


and yet it is still doing something without shepard's consent


I was simply pointing out that asari reproduction doesn't work that way. And Liara wouldn't do that anyway.

Modifié par Barquiel, 22 mars 2013 - 10:36 .


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Gangnam Style wrote...

and yet it is still doing something without shepard's consent

"Rape" also implies something sexual. Not every single thing that is done without consent can be filed under rape.

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Yeah, Liara's child that then dies in a vent and haunts you for the rest of the game! FUN!

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No thanks. I would totally love a short Liara cameo, but let the ME characters rest now, before they destroy them, with never ending Sequels, like other games.

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BitBomb wrote...

How about no?


Modifié par Neria Rose, 22 mars 2013 - 10:52 .


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andy69156915 wrote...

And tick off everyone who prefers other characters for their love interest and give even more fuel to the fire that Liara is the writer's pet? No. I got a better idea.

Have the character be Shepard's child if you ended with a romance that could result in it actually being Shepard biological child (human or Asari), or an adopted child of whatever race you want (Shepard and Tali decided to adopt one of Wrex's kids if you choose that for example, or Shepard and Garrus adopt a Turian orphan when he/she was a small child). This way, favorites aren't being played and you can still have a connection to Shepard. It would also let you play as whatever race you want because Shepard and their LI could adopt a kid of a bunch of different races and it still work.


This.

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

Gangnam Style wrote...

and yet it is still doing something without shepard's consent

"Rape" also implies something sexual. Not every single thing that is done without consent can be filed under rape.


Only in a contemporary legal sense (which is only the most common usage).

As a noun, rape has nothing at all to do with sex.

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andy69156915 wrote...

And tick off everyone who prefers other characters for their love interest and give even more fuel to the fire that Liara is the writer's pet? No. I got a better idea.

Have the character be Shepard's child if you ended with a romance that could result in it actually being Shepard biological child (human or Asari), or an adopted child of whatever race you want (Shepard and Tali decided to adopt one of Wrex's kids if you choose that for example, or Shepard and Garrus adopt a Turian orphan when he/she was a small child). This way, favorites aren't being played and you can still have a connection to Shepard. It would also let you play as whatever race you want because Shepard and their LI could adopt a kid of a bunch of different races and it still work.


your not actually playing this asari kid its actually just side character a recruitable non major character. an easter egg like hehe.

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Rhayak wrote...

And who says Shep didn't give her his permission?


Ummm, I do. Each and every Shepard is different, and my Shepard never harbored any romantic feelings for Liara. That title goes to Miranda.

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o Ventus wrote...

Rhayak wrote...

And who says Shep didn't give her his permission?


Ummm, I do. Each and every Shepard is different, and my Shepard never harbored any romantic feelings for Liara. That title goes to Miranda.


that is what the addendum was for, hehe if your shep was dead. it was your LI that asks liara for the child. maybe like a surrogate.

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 22 mars 2013 - 11:06 .


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Thanks for ruining the mystery for me OP. Now we can't use your idea.

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No.