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[mtmercydave09]

Liara's child could work, and could say it was Liara's child that discovers the time capsule.

[chmarr]

so if its liaras kid that means EVERY love interest is then reconned, because the only person she really did love was shepard, the other guy was a real good friend but not enough to have a kid with.

so no.

if anything they should use the data saved in the previous game for the character you play,
if its tali then it would be a human . quarian hybrid
if its garrus then its turian / human.
if its thane then its a drell / human hybrid
if its liara then all ou can play is asari as they don't have hybrids
if it was any of the human squad mates then we know its a human.
and if by any chance you get javik then pow ... prothean / human hybrid.

so in short the character should reflect the love interest between sheperd and whomever.

[Dusk Wolf]

I wouldn't mind seeing her or her daughter or both make a cameo...or her daughter have a significant roll in the game. I'm not sure if I'd want liara to have a big presence in it even though I like her character because we've had three games of her. If her daughter is pretty much an opposite of her and more like her father & shepard combined she could be funny and good to have as a squad mate or something. I could see it working.

[mtmercydave09]

Not to derail the topic but...

If there's anyone that should make an appearance in ME4 it's Ashley. Liara was in all 3 games. Ashley was hardly in 2, and wasn't even in half of 3 because she was in the hospital. I think her character could have used more development.

I could see them having either Ashley or James as the main characters since James is basically being groomed to be the next Shepard, and Ashley is the 2nd human spectre.

Back on topic though. As far as Liara's child, I think that could work. No matter who it is I would think they'd have to put in discovering the time capsule Liara made just so they can have a link back to the trilogy. If there's no link I don't see how any game set after the events of the trilogy could be really taken seriously as a story.

[Dusk Wolf]

I don't think the next game should link back to the entire trilogy save for maybe mentioning the major events that happened if anything. I'd be ok with having the major choices from the end of the 3rd game brought up with each one being accounted for if it's possible...especially the destroy ending and not leaving shepard's fate up to head canon and whether he/she lived or died, depending on your war assets and readiness. Including the result of the geth quarian conflict and the status of the genophage with the krogan shouldn't be too difficult to add. That's really all that needs to be mentioned. I'd like to see it set far enough into the future that really only liara and grunt would be left but not so far that the outcome of the reaper conflict is a real distant memory so their offspring could make an appear.

[Venom man4]

If the next ME isn't going to have Sheaprd then it doesn't need to have any connections to the old crew either, plus there is a lot of romance non romance things to take into account.

[ThatDancingTurian]

chmarr wrote...

so if its liaras kid that means EVERY love interest is then reconned, because the only person she really did love was shepard, the other guy was a real good friend but not enough to have a kid with.

so no.

if anything they should use the data saved in the previous game for the character you play,
if its tali then it would be a human . quarian hybrid
if its garrus then its turian / human.
if its thane then its a drell / human hybrid
if its liara then all ou can play is asari as they don't have hybrids
if it was any of the human squad mates then we know its a human.
and if by any chance you get javik then pow ... prothean / human hybrid.

so in short the character should reflect the love interest between sheperd and whomever.

The only idea worse than my Shepard having had an asari child without her consent is the idea that someone cooked up some kind of hybrid abomination from her and Garrus. Just... no.

[zombitologist]

 I actually think this is feasible character for a possible sequel, kind of similar to Satele Shan in TOR. Where the game doesn't tell you whether Shepard is the father, only if you want to believe it to be possible. Sadly, all the other LIs are incapable of filling this role unless it utilized an import system. Personally, I always felt that Liara's gift to Shepard at the end of three represented this possible story point. It's Liara's way of ensuring a piece of Shepard would live on no matter what, in any playthrough, she'd never find someone that'd be such a large part of her life the way Shepard was. It's a little selfish, but I feel Shepard knows and understands if he accepts it. As for the players that wouldn't or didn't accept such a gift, that's fine, since it's unimportant to the actual future games who her real father would be. Also, according to Athetya, Asari refer to the spouse as father, so male shep or fem shep would be inconsequential. But what I really love about this post is that is goes from practical to bat****, crazy awesomeness by the end. If any character gets such amazing powers it'd better be the main character.

Modifié par SwimDevil, 28 mars 2013 - 09:24 .

[Dusk Wolf]

Venom man4 wrote...

If the next ME isn't going to have Sheaprd then it doesn't need to have any connections to the old crew either, plus there is a lot of romance non romance things to take into account.

of course it doesn't need to have them but I'd like to see some appearances with the ones who have long lifespans or Shepard's child or both. Having them show up can be done and the story doesn't need to mention any of the minute details from every NPC and sidequest, just the major events. I think with enough development time and some creative writing it can be done and I think it would be awesome to have Liara's kid as an NPC. Including other romance options in this would be cool, too...assuming shepard survived. I'm not sure how it can be done without making the destroy ending canon though. I'd like to see how many people actually picked it because if enough people did it should be made canon. That might make a lot of other players upset who didn't/don't pick it so there's no telling what's going to happen.

[Sir George Parr]

The idea of the daughter would fit into a sequel of sorts to Shepards story. Which i would expect needs to see the small matter of the endings of ME3 being addressed in some manner. Its not something that i would be particularly interested in seeing in game as after all its a big universe out there and time for something different and new people to meet.Depending on what Bioware do any cameos back to Shepards story should be kept to a bare minimum if at all as the focus should be firmly on new characters.Thats why if the next game picks up where shepard's ended it would be better to go forward a century and have the story take place outside the lifetimes of the bulk of the characters. So potential cameos are reduced to Krogan and Asari characters.
I Would be more interested in a more personal story taking place in the Mass Effect universe, something off to the side and unfolding in the same time frame as Shepards story perhaps.
One that learns from the mistakes of DA2 and does not railroad the protagonist in to a maelstrom which they are ultimately powerless to have any influence over. The same can be said of ME3 with regard to being railroaded. Also the life of the protagonist does not need to be as tragic as Hawke's
which was like a soap opera with the potential for all members of Hawke's immediate family to die.
But we shall have to wait and see what Bioware have planned for this next installment in the Mass Effect series.


As opposed to trying to repeat Shepards story.

[Artifex_Imperius]

SwimDevil wrote...

 I actually think this is feasible character for a possible sequel, kind of similar to Satele Shan in TOR. Where the game doesn't tell you whether Shepard is the father, only if you want to believe it to be possible. Sadly, all the other LIs are incapable of filling this role unless it utilized an import system. Personally, I always felt that Liara's gift to Shepard at the end of three represented this possible story point. It's Liara's way of ensuring a piece of Shepard would live on no matter what, in any playthrough, she'd never find someone that'd be such a large part of her life the way Shepard was. It's a little selfish, but I feel Shepard knows and understands if he accepts it. As for the players that wouldn't or didn't accept such a gift, that's fine, since it's unimportant to the actual future games who her real father would be. Also, according to Athetya, Asari refer to the spouse as father, so male shep or fem shep would be inconsequential. But what I really love about this post is that is goes from practical to bat****, crazy awesomeness by the end. If any character gets such amazing powers it'd better be the main character.

The character concept is working on the Conveniences made by Bioware on Liara's character.

Her Long Life Span, Ability to bare a child with any Species and the ability to do so with any Gender of that species. And the ability to do so even if the Father was gone. and the ability to do so without the fathers consent.

lastly these grants her the ability to carry on a piece of shepard. When ever or Where ever.
Regardless if the setting is 100 yrs or a 1000 yrs after me3.
Regardless if shep is dead or alive
Regardless if shep chose to romance liara or not.

the theory or possibilty of liara child is born out of these conveniences.

[Artifex_Imperius]

to add:
TALENTS: seriously knows how to play a PIANO. and not just one piece but many!

[Skullheart]

Doesn't matter how many thimes the op bums this thread. Still is an idea that lacks support from almost every fanbase.

Don't know if the op is a troll or serious.

[NoReapers]

How about Matriarch Liara in ME4?

Edit:
as VILLAIN

Would be kind of extreme.

Modifié par Kamiloni, 31 mars 2013 - 04:33 .

[gisle]

This thread doesn't assume, but takes for granted that the next ME game is after ME3.

I wouldn't oppose this idea for a non-squadmate, but squadmate... no. I would prefer a new character over a Liara 2.0.

OP, ian easter egg would be more along the lines if the character was Liara's paternal cousin, or half-sister (Aethyta's so there's no T'Soni last name), or something among those lines.

Modifié par Gisle-Aune, 31 mars 2013 - 05:34 .

[ThinkSharp]

(I'm not for this. I'm in favor of no overlap. But...)

How about Jacob's kid?

Hey, you can even go with it being named "Shepard" after all.

Shepard Taylor, lost child of the Destroyed/Controlled/Synthesized universe.

Modifié par ThinkSharp, 31 mars 2013 - 05:38 .

[Demonique]

 Oh great, yet another Asari for Bioware to show favourtism towards and give more screentime to than any other character

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

chmarr wrote...

so if its liaras kid that means EVERY love interest is then reconned, because the only person she really did love was shepard, the other guy was a real good friend but not enough to have a kid with.

so no.

if anything they should use the data saved in the previous game for the character you play,
if its tali then it would be a human . quarian hybrid
if its garrus then its turian / human.
if its thane then its a drell / human hybrid
if its liara then all ou can play is asari as they don't have hybrids
if it was any of the human squad mates then we know its a human.
and if by any chance you get javik then pow ... prothean / human hybrid.

so in short the character should reflect the love interest between sheperd and whomever.

The only idea worse than my Shepard having had an asari child without her consent is the idea that someone cooked up some kind of hybrid abomination from her and Garrus. Just... no.

Aww think about it   

Then again   

[Artifex_Imperius]

Demonique wrote...

 Oh great, yet another Asari for Bioware to show favourtism towards and give more screentime to than any other character

thats why this asari wont talk much, would hide her race and face till episode 2. be just a squad member with a gun.
like ala samus aran. her silence would only be offset by her skill in combat and overwhelming biotic power.

she wont even have a name. just a suit no. so no favoritism for this asari.

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 31 mars 2013 - 06:52 .

[AlexMBrennan]

And tick off everyone who prefers other characters for their love interest and give even more fuel to the fire that Liara is the writer's pet? No. I got a better idea.

Sorry, but I'd just like to point out the obvious fail here - OP never specified that the character should be Shepard's child; regardless of the events in the game Liara might find another partner a couple of centuries after Shepard's death. 

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 31 mars 2013 - 07:05 .

[Artifex_Imperius]

So I was thinking of physical looks what if this character was tall. note that in me trilogy almost all if not most of the normandy crew were just as tall or shorter than shep.

I was thinking this asari would be built taller than new the commander. wouldn't that be imposing.

May be its something we could apply to next ME to modify the height of the characters?

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 01 avril 2013 - 01:10 .

[BronzTrooper]

Artifex_Imperius wrote...

So I was thinking of physical looks what if this character was tall. note that in me trilogy almost all if not most of the normandy crew were just as tall or shorter than shep.

I was thinking this asari would be built taller than new the commander. wouldn't that be imposing.

May be its something we could apply to next ME to modify the height of the characters?

Wouldn't that make it a little too much like games such as Saints Row?

[Artifex_Imperius]

Gamer072196 wrote...

Artifex_Imperius wrote...

So I was thinking of physical looks what if this character was tall. note that in me trilogy almost all if not most of the normandy crew were just as tall or shorter than shep.

I was thinking this asari would be built taller than new the commander. wouldn't that be imposing.

May be its something we could apply to next ME to modify the height of the characters?

Wouldn't that make it a little too much like games such as Saints Row?

Sounds too much to ask eh. but i would be great if other crew characters would be such an imposing character to the skipper and they wouldn't be somebody to just pushed around. like declining to go on a mission coz the dont feel like doing it. just like what vega did beating the sh*t out of shep.

to add:
I Just modified/emphasize some of character's initial description to emphasize the whole NOT REVEALING herself to be a "Woman and Asari":bandit: part.

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 05 avril 2013 - 12:03 .

[Artifex_Imperius]

So it wont be a repeat of Liara/Asari taking most of the show. The Opposite it is for this character. Again the character would be a Silent Crew Member. would be found below deck/ like a one man island. And like ME1 will only give tactical appraisal. will never talk with anything personal. the only few words you'd ever get is Yes and No. Plus the voice would have a digital blur again to hide any indication of gender.

Scenario: You'd find the character on the lowest deck of the ship. In the darkest corner sharpening her combat knife!
the only sound you'd hear as you approach is the grating of the blade. with only a dark silouhette to see.

As you converse with the character in the darkness. as the character starts to talk, two red glowing eyes appear.  when finished talking the red eyes disappear. all the while you can never see the face.

i would imagine a dim light blub inside a skull swing atop. as the only light source in the room. not even enough light to see what your stepping on.

the character conveys this image of Fear. note: that she is tall. the commander would only be shoulder high.
would be such an imposing sight to see.

And most of the crew would always be creeped out by her attitude. like suddenly appearing behind without making a sound.

I hope that solves the problem of taking airtime!

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 05 avril 2013 - 01:09 .

[Dubozz]

BitBomb wrote...

How about no?