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Well this isn't surprising, there shouldn't have been another BioShock after number 1. Bioshock 1 was a great game and as much as I love the series, I think they should have stopped at 1.

[OdanUrr]

Eterna5 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Is there any reference to time travel in BI or in previous Bioshock titles? I mean, for a game like Timeshift it'd make sense, but does it make sense for this game?

You shoot bees from your hands. Time travel hardly crosses the line of ridiculous in that universe.

That's not my point. I simply don't want time travel being used as a DEM for the ending.

[Robhuzz]

iakus wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

Nowadays developers just cannot come up with a firm good ending. They care too much about pleasing everyone.

Nah.  Nowadays "good endings" are considered too pedestrian.  So they go for arbitrary twists and overly elaborate reveals, in an attempt to be "artistic"

Sadly this seems to be the jist of it. It's as if they all suddenly think having a 'hero survives' ending is too cliche and a 'hero dies' ending equally so, so they'll just go for some vague (often plothole ridden) ending, call it artistic, then act as if it's great and they did a good job.

I fear for DA3's ending already.

[OdanUrr]

Robhuzz wrote...

iakus wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

Nowadays developers just cannot come up with a firm good ending. They care too much about pleasing everyone.

Nah.  Nowadays "good endings" are considered too pedestrian.  So they go for arbitrary twists and overly elaborate reveals, in an attempt to be "artistic"

Sadly this seems to be the jist of it. It's as if they all suddenly think having a 'hero survives' ending is too cliche and a 'hero dies' ending equally so, so they'll just go for some vague (often plothole ridden) ending, call it artistic, then act as if it's great and they did a good job.

I fear for DA3's ending already.

Dishonored's ending was pretty good.

[Robhuzz]

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 22 mars 2013 - 08:47 .

[OdanUrr]

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 22 mars 2013 - 08:50 .

[Mr.House]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

So that guy posts it and it's obviously legit because everything on the internet is true because some guy says so. Wow.

How about you wait for the game?

I've seen the ending on a live stream, it's just like what was written. It's real, also funny what you are writing because this was the same response people had when the endings of ME3 where leak and peopel kept sayiung they where fake and peopel hwo beleived them where being trolled and it's not real and such.

[adam32867]

NCommand wrote...

I would very much like to know what gamers think is a good ending, for the last few years I've heard nothing but complaints

metal gear solid 4
Dragons Dogma
The walking dead
Heavy Rain

[Applepie_Svk]

OdanUrr wrote...


Dishonored's ending was pretty good.

Yep, it was clear and nicely done.

adam32867 wrote...

NCommand wrote...

I would very much like to know what gamers think is a good ending, for the last few years I've heard nothing but complaints

metal gear solid 4
Dragons Dogma
The walking dead
Heavy Rain

Pretty much, I would add even Deus Ex. It´s difference when you build whole narrative on some theme and ending is nothing more then highlight of whole narrative instead of attempt to be "special" and "inovative" or "thoughtful", you can be one of those as far as you follow your narrative. That´s why The Walking Dead from Telltale is so great even if ending is dark.

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 22 mars 2013 - 09:08 .

[Archonsg]

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

If you mean Dishonored's "bad" ending, its pretty good.
or rather, I think the right word is "Fitting".

Whether good or bad endings, Dishonored was a pretty good game.
Storywise ... you will have your suspension of disbelief stretched at times, assuming that you already can accept Dishonored's rather mystical origins, but does not quite break that suspension as ME3's ending did.

[Robhuzz]

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

Oh I don't even mind if there are really, really bad endings, as long as there's at least one ending that is actually good and I can choose that one.

I wonder though.... is this really, really, really bad ending bad as in.... everyone dies bad or just mass effect 3 bad as in crappy writing?

[Mr.House]

Archonsg wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

If you mean Dishonored's "bad" ending, its pretty good.
or rather, I think the right word is "Fitting".

Whether good or bad endings, Dishonored was a pretty good game.
Storywise ... you will have your suspension of disbelief stretched at times, assuming that you already can accept Dishonored's rather mystical origins, but does not quite break that suspension as ME3's ending did.

I think he was talking about high chaos + the epic fail you can do on the last level(won't say what it is but you should know )

[Mr.House]

Robhuzz wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

Oh I don't even mind if there are really, really bad endings, as long as there's at least one ending that is actually good and I can choose that one.

I wonder though.... is this really, really, really bad ending bad as in.... everyone dies bad or just mass effect 3 bad as in crappy writing?

Bad as it's very sad. It's well written.

[OdanUrr]

Archonsg wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

If you mean Dishonored's "bad" ending, its pretty good.
or rather, I think the right word is "Fitting".

Whether good or bad endings, Dishonored was a pretty good game.
Storywise ... you will have your suspension of disbelief stretched at times, assuming that you already can accept Dishonored's rather mystical origins, but does not quite break that suspension as ME3's ending did.

Yeah, I meant the bad ending does what it sets out to do, in that respect it's good... because it's so bad.

[Taboo]

Pre-loading Infinite right now on Steam. Haters gonna hate.

Also Dishonored's ending is great.

[Eterna]

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

I hated Dishonored. It punished me for being an Assassin by rewarding me with a terrible ending. "Here's a knife, but don't kill anyone with it! Instead be a care bear and knock all the bad guys out, if you don't then screw you!" 

[Mr.House]

Eterna5 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

I hated Dishonored. It punished me for being an Assassin by rewarding me with a terrible ending. "Here's a knife, but don't kill anyone with it! Instead be a care bear and knock all the bad guys out, if you don't then screw you!" 

I killed people, still got the best ending.

[Eterna]

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

^Didn't play dishonored so I can't comment on that.

Seems like Angry Joe hasn't reviewed it yet either. That's...strange.

He won't either, but he included it in his Top 10 Best Games of 2012 list.

Oh, I forgot to mention there's also a bad ending. And it's really, really, really bad.

I hated Dishonored. It punished me for being an Assassin by rewarding me with a terrible ending. "Here's a knife, but don't kill anyone with it! Instead be a care bear and knock all the bad guys out, if you don't then screw you!" 

I killed people, still got the best ending.

I may have killed a lot of people...

[andy6915]

No, Evangelion is still far worse then ME3's ending (especially with the canon ending "end of Evangelion). Thank goodness for Evangelion: RE-take.

[Mr.House]

Eterna5 wrote...


I may have killed a lot of people...

Then don't kill everyone that moves. If you wanted a game where you can just kill everything and expect nothing bad to happen from it, this game is not for you. If you want low chaos, kill when you have to, use your powers, use stealth and use the level to your advanatge. Also doing non lethal options ont he main targets is much better then just killing them imo.

[Archonsg]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Pre-loading Infinite right now on Steam. Haters gonna hate.

Also Dishonored's ending is great.

No hate.
No love either.
Just good proper consumer paranoia.

[Gruntburner]

I hope that ending isn't as bad as stated, cause if it is as bad as that then... I don't know. I love Bioshock, but if what the guys says is true, it really does ruin the entire franchise.

[MegaSovereign]

Read half the responses in the thread.

Bad endings are the product of bad writing. They're not some elaborate conspiracy to nickel and dime gamers. Conspiracy theorists often times give people way too much credit.

Unless ofcourse, the ending is a cliffhanger since the intent is to give people incentive to buy the sequel.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 22 mars 2013 - 09:28 .

[Mr.House]

Gruntburner wrote...

I hope that ending isn't as bad as stated, cause if it is as bad as that then... I don't know. I love Bioshock, but if what the guys says is true, it really does ruin the entire franchise.

As a person who saw the live stream of the ending, it's just like what is written.

[Iakus]

adam32867 wrote...

NCommand wrote...

I would very much like to know what gamers think is a good ending, for the last few years I've heard nothing but complaints

metal gear solid 4
Dragons Dogma
The walking dead
Heavy Rain

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Also :
Dragon Age: Origins
Alpha Protocol