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[ryoldschool]

Tech Domain wrote...

I see them more than any other, and they're all bad.

Never seen anyone play him effectively, even when they were hosting. 98.7% of them are BS spammers.

If anyone on Xbox plays a kickass Slayer let me know.

IxMerc 04 is very good with this class on xbox.  his build has 0 in slash.   i tried his build on host, but player skill evidently makes a difference, lol

[Tech Domain]

ryoldschool wrote...

IxMerc 04 is very good with this class on xbox.  his build has 0 in slash.   i tried his build on host, but player skill evidently makes a difference, lol

I usually spec out of slash too. Destroys everything.

I've gone off Vanguards recently, so haven't even played him after PD buff.

[anolis85]

I've never hosted. What makes him host dependent?

[Xariann]

My friends know that my hallmark is vanguards, but I have the option to host if I want to play one. But I also play them off host sometimes.

I guess like others say it's a matter of hosting and when you are PUGing you don't know if you will be it, unless you set up a game yourself.

On a side note, I don't even have points into Biotic Slash on my Slayer. I don't see the fascination with that skill. It's a way to be lazy (and ineffective), so I guess that's why it's used that much.

[Xariann]

anolis85 wrote...

I've never hosted. What makes him host dependent?

Charge is very tricky when there is lag. Even when you host, sometimes you can press your charge buttons a few times (at leat that happens to me) and it won't charge straight away. Off host this is an even greater issue.

[palmof40sorrows]

Xariann wrote...

anolis85 wrote...

I've never hosted. What makes him host dependent?

Charge is very tricky when there is lag. Even when you host, sometimes you can press your charge buttons a few times (at leat that happens to me) and it won't charge straight away. Off host this is an even greater issue.

That's true, but for the Slayer it is more of an issue of his PD and telport not working as quickly as you need them to.

[RamsenC]

My favorite, but I only use it when hosting, otherwise it doesn't feel responsive. It's the most action packed kit in the game when used correctly (that means no slash), but higher skill/hosting required means you'll rarely see it. It's the only Vanguard I'm excited to see turrets with.

I haven't done the math, but armor damage PD has to be some of the best armor dps in the game and Acolyte covers the rest. PD > Wraith > PD > Wraith > PD + auto reload > PD > PD > Charge > Repeat is also nice.  

Modifié par RamsenC, 22 mars 2013 - 05:37 .

[sandboxgod]

Probably 90% of random n7 slayer are terrible biotic slash spammer scrubs.Not sure if I've noticed a well played n7 slayer in quite awhile. The skilled players moved on to other kits. The new n7 slayers are unaware of the buffs or something.

When I play n7 slayer I spec out of biotic slash. Always had

[megabeast37215]

It is the most powerful Vanguard. Leaves the Drellguard/Kroguard in the dust...you just have to host and have brass balls.

I used to run the 6/6/0/6/6 build... but since Geth Scanner... I'm running 6/6/6/5/3 with great results.

[Major Durza]

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

I fail to see how he can outdo the Drellguard or Asariguard in damage output, tough to beat grenades.
Anyway, he is my favorite vanguard, love playing him on-host.  Offhost tends to be a bit of a hassle since both of his powers tend to be unresponsive offhost.

And BS is a BS move that should not be used on the Slayer, go with a BS free build!

[Evo876]

Use but only on host.
He is truly the most powerful vanguard if u can play him fast n smart.

[Manbearpig]

I'm thinking about implementing a new rule. You want to be host? Play vanguards. Otherwise I'm starting my own lobby.

[megabeast37215]

Major Durza wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

I fail to see how he can outdo the Drellguard or Asariguard in damage output, tough to beat grenades.
Anyway, he is my favorite vanguard, love playing him on-host.  Offhost tends to be a bit of a hassle since both of his powers tend to be unresponsive offhost.

And BS is a BS move that should not be used on the Slayer, go with a BS free build!

Because he has infinite AOE grenade level damage coming out of his hand, with a ROF as fast as the Saber.

[megabeast37215]

Notorious P I G wrote...

I'm thinking about implementing a new rule. You want to be host? Play vanguards. Otherwise I'm starting my own lobby.

Agree 100%

Or use the Kishock/Graal/other host dependant kits/powers...

[Evo876]

Major Durza wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

I fail to see how he can outdo the Drellguard or Asariguard in damage output, tough to beat grenades.
Anyway, he is my favorite vanguard, love playing him on-host.  Offhost tends to be a bit of a hassle since both of his powers tend to be unresponsive offhost.

And BS is a BS move that should not be used on the Slayer, go with a BS free build!

Incendiary ammo + botic charge + phase D thats how

[rlro]

Arctican wrote...

They're highly host dependent. Not fun off host.

This. I play the Slayer a lot, but always when hosting.

[your-friendly-noggin]

His dodge, heavy melee and strongest power all use up barriers, the melee and dodge can be done without a barrier but it resets the recharge timer for the barrier to come back. All this makes for a disaster on anything higher than silver off host, even silver is rough for him with some factions and that's coming from someone who plays gold pugs successfully all the time.

There is one change I would make to him that I think would really improve the kit, reverse the heavy melee barrier cost, if you land a kill it should replenish your barrier by about 10-25% and a standard hit(without killing) should replenish 5-10%.

If you found yourself in a tight spot with BC on cooldown you could heavy melee a nearby mook and to get out of there and even be able to fire off a phase. *Edit* not to mention with power synergy the phase disrupter would be boosted!

Modifié par your-friendly-noggin, 22 mars 2013 - 05:53 .

[RedJohn]

Evo876 wrote...

Major Durza wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

I fail to see how he can outdo the Drellguard or Asariguard in damage output, tough to beat grenades.
Anyway, he is my favorite vanguard, love playing him on-host.  Offhost tends to be a bit of a hassle since both of his powers tend to be unresponsive offhost.

And BS is a BS move that should not be used on the Slayer, go with a BS free build!

Incendiary ammo + botic charge + phase D thats how

Disruptor is a better choise most of the times.

You can't detonate fire explosions of incendiary ammo on shielded enemies

[Fortack]

Kai Leng is a fool.

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

My favorite vanguard. I seem to be the only one that actually likes his heavy melee too.

As for being host dependent, I usually only host anyways.

your-friendly-noggin wrote...
There is one change I would make to him that I think would really improve the kit, reverse the heavy melee barrier cost, if you land a kill it should replenish your barrier by about 10-25% and a standard hit(without killing) should replenish 5-10%.

Ooh I like that. The Slayer soul-stealer!

I've always been in favor of removing weapon synergy from rank 5 of charge, and replacing it with melee.

Fortack wrote...

Kai Leng is a fool.

You should eat him!

Modifié par DJCS, 22 mars 2013 - 06:04 .

[MetalGearMetroid]

I off-host him all the time, it's really not that bad. If the match is excessively laggy, be a little more careful...

Its pretty hard to screw up a class with 2 near instantaneous area stagger powers...

Modifié par MetalGearMetroid, 22 mars 2013 - 05:59 .

[FasterThanFTL]

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 22 mars 2013 - 06:00 .

[Farosyrn]

Favourite Vanguard, but since hosting seems impossible these days (I usually give up after ~30 minutes of waiting for someone, anyone to join....) I don't really get to play him anymore.

[RamsenC]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

So so so so so wrong

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

FasterThanFTL wrote...
You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.