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[Hostile17171717]

I play one too and phase disruptor just melts enemies with armor. That with charge gives you great offense and survivabilty coupled with his melee combo which I think gives you 40% DR. But hosting is a must as you will walk up to a mob, hit the button for phase disruptor and it will lag a second and the mob will have moved from where you fired.

Honestly I do not know how EA-ware could put Vanguards into MP without dedicated servers. They are almost unplayable off host.

Modifié par Hostile17171717, 22 mars 2013 - 06:03 .

[RedJohn]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

lol

who told you that?

[megabeast37215]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

Lolno....

That might be one of the stupider things I've read on here in awhile...

[RedJohn]

megabeast37215 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

Lolno....

That might be one of the stupider things I've read on here in awhile...

Get used to read him then.


Last time I argued with him he told me that my manifest says that I am a noob because I haven't completed few challenges and therefore I only use OP classes.

He also said that my Repair Matrix nerf was a nerf for all shotguns lmao

[FasterThanFTL]

RedJohn wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

lol

who told you that?

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

[Deerber]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOHMYGODICAN'TSTOPLAUGHING!!!! :D:D

We need more emoticon on this forum. I want the one that keeps thumping the hands on the floor and rolling from the laughs. Would describe my current feeling quite accurately!!! 


Anyway, to answer Stardusk's question... My guess is:

a - the slayer has a bit of a learning curve. Even more so than some other Vanguards.

b - you need to host to play him at his full potential. If you play him off-host, you might actually think he's not that good.

[lfc19titles]

the slayer should have been the very first non biotic charged vanguard....also biotic slash is an awful power really for many reasons

so frustrating to use him off host I find....also I hate the slash moves

[RamsenC]

Slayer is the best Vanguard when played flawlessly. Kroguard is the best otherwise.

[FasterThanFTL]

RedJohn wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

It's the most powerful vanguard but also for some reason, the one that people don't know how to use, maybe that's the reason why you don't see them too often.

In my experience, most of the Slayers i've seen have as a unique objective the biotic slash spamming, sadly, a very bad strategy.

The most powerful Vanguard? Ehm, not sure how you get that...oh well, generational gap.

I measure that with damage output capacity and survivability.

You know nothing about the current state of the game, you hardly play the game. N7 Slayer is at best the 4th or 5th Best Vanguard.

Lolno....

That might be one of the stupider things I've read on here in awhile...

Get used to read him then.


Last time I argued with him he told me that my manifest says that I am a noob because I haven't completed few challenges and therefore I only use OP classes.

He also said that my Repair Matrix nerf was a nerf for all shotguns lmao

You are a Gloriified Noob who posts on BSN all day instead of actually playing the game that much. And when you do play the game you stick to the most OP weapons and characters. I don't say this out of thin air but your manifest proves it.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 22 mars 2013 - 06:16 .

[RedJohn]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

2 and 3, not infinites granades, yo.

Besides, even knowing that Krogan Battlemaster holds the fastest gold solo record, It's clearly known ( at least i hope people know ) that Battlemaster is capable of it's normal damage output because he is nearly inmortal, but he can't do a crowd control as Slayer can...

You know, granades are not everything, they are not unlimited.



PS: Calling me noob in front of all the people who know me and have played with me only makes you look bad, man, it's better to not go into personal attacks.

Modifié par RedJohn, 22 mars 2013 - 06:18 .

[RedJohn]

Deerber wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOHMYGODICAN'TSTOPLAUGHING!!!! :D:D

We need more emoticon on this forum. I want the one that keeps thumping the hands on the floor and rolling from the laughs. Would describe my current feeling quite accurately!!! 


Anyway, to answer Stardusk's question... My guess is:

a - the slayer has a bit of a learning curve. Even more so than some other Vanguards.

b - you need to host to play him at his full potential. If you play him off-host, you might actually think he's not that good.

Very important thing what you said there.

Slayer is more flexible than other characters regarding knowledge because the more you know how to play it the more ways you find to exploit all its capabilities, not like Krogan Vanguard which gameplay is kind of limited.

[Elecbender]

If there was a weapon called "Post New Topic" you know Stardusk would be all over it.

[FasterThanFTL]

RedJohn wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

2 and 3, not infinites granades, yo.

Besides, even knowing that Krogan Battlemaster holds the fastest gold solo record, It's clearly known ( at least i hope people know ) that Battlemaster is capable of it's normal damage output because he is nearly inmortal, but he can't do a crowd control as Slayer can...

You know, granades are not everything, they are not unlimited.



PS: Calling me noob in front of all the people who know me and have played with me only makes you look bad man, it's better to not go into personal attacks.

Just be quite RedJohn I have listened to your Bul**** long enough on this Forum, I have played this game 4 times the amount you have and your knowledge of the game is very very limited compared to me and many other players here. There is no way the N7 Slayer is better than the Top 3 I have mentioned Phase Disruptor just does not work very well off-host 90% of the time and without Phase Disruptor N7 Slayer should be ranked even lower. Any other logical reason you present why you think N7 Slayer is better than My Top 3, I will gladly change my mind.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 22 mars 2013 - 06:36 .

[Baby Quarian]

I've played him once...that's about it.

[megabeast37215]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

1. Please... there isn't a PLAYER ALIVE who can outscore my Slayer with a Reegar Kroguard. Everything the Kroguard does.. only damages single targets (except Radius Charge which does medicore damage to 3 total targets, and has a long-ish cooldown on him).

2 & 3. On a map with double grenade boxes, there is a chance, but still.. not likely.

4. Batguard? Seriously? Seriously?

You sir... are a moron.

[lavatsunami]

Slayer vanguard is easily the best vanguard. If you spec for phase disruptor you have aoe damage with continual stagger (that can also hit anything at the far side of the map).

I started a gold match the other day and set it to public and went in by myself (like I usually do), expecting people to join. No one came. I used two medi pacs, and my rockets and unintentionally soloed a gold match, lol.

Slayer vanguard is amazing. I'm not sure why people don't use him more. I'm guessing they don't know how to play him well and/or realize how good he is.

Modifié par lavatsunami, 22 mars 2013 - 06:30 .

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

Well there goes this thread...

[Elecbender]

DJCS wrote...

Well there goes this thread...

Yeah that normally happens with Stardusk threads...

[MP-Ryan]

I host with Slayer almost as often as I novaguard. You probably don't see Slayers that often because a PD-specced Slayer is unplayable off-host.

[FasterThanFTL]

megabeast37215 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

1. Please... there isn't a PLAYER ALIVE who can outscore my Slayer with a Reegar Kroguard. Everything the Kroguard does.. only damages single targets (except Radius Charge which does medicore damage to 3 total targets, and has a long-ish cooldown on him).

2 & 3. On a map with double grenade boxes, there is a chance, but still.. not likely.

4. Batguard? Seriously? Seriously?

You sir... are a moron.

You are the Moron, just look at your post you have basically admitted I am correct.

[RedJohn]

Time played = skill.

ohhh.

Just be quite RedJohn I have listened to your Bul**** long enough on this Forum, I have played this games 4 times the amount you have and your knowledge of the game is very very limited compared to me and many other players here. There is no way the N7 Slayer is better than the Top 3 I have mentioned Phase Disruptor just does not work very well off-host 90% of the time and without Phase Disruptor N7 Slayer should be ranked even lower. Any other logical reason you present why you think N7 Slayer is better than My Top 3, I will gladly change my mind.

With every post you make you are just looking worse :/

Okay, i gave you a good argument, granades are not infinite since you are basing that in granades, hence biocharge is the common thing between them and it will work in the same way off host.



Besides let's use logic here, let's don't talk about on host or off host because that's like if I say that a volus sentinel is better than a krogan soldier because the sentinel outscored me while I was having high internet latency due to a tropical storm.

If you go on host with Asari Vanguard your granades will run out sooner or later while you still have phase disruptor to spam to the infinite and beyond and while you are at it you can also detonate combos very very fast, Asari Vanguard can't do that because her only non cooldown power is a granade that soon or later will not be there.

[megabeast37215]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

1. Please... there isn't a PLAYER ALIVE who can outscore my Slayer with a Reegar Kroguard. Everything the Kroguard does.. only damages single targets (except Radius Charge which does medicore damage to 3 total targets, and has a long-ish cooldown on him).

2 & 3. On a map with double grenade boxes, there is a chance, but still.. not likely.

4. Batguard? Seriously? Seriously?

You sir... are a moron.

You are the Moron, just look at your post you have basically admitted I am correct.

The more you post... the worse you look.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about... and have probably never played with a well played Slayer.

[RedJohn]

megabeast37215 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

1. Krogan Battlemaster
2. Asari Vanguard
3. Drell Vanguard
4. Batarian Brawler or N7 Slayer

1. Please... there isn't a PLAYER ALIVE who can outscore my Slayer with a Reegar Kroguard. Everything the Kroguard does.. only damages single targets (except Radius Charge which does medicore damage to 3 total targets, and has a long-ish cooldown on him).

2 & 3. On a map with double grenade boxes, there is a chance, but still.. not likely.

4. Batguard? Seriously? Seriously?

You sir... are a moron.

In those maps you have to spend time running to the box while the Slayer is living the party, don't forget that.

[megabeast37215]

RedJohn wrote...

Time played = skill.

ohhh.

Just be quite RedJohn I have listened to your Bul**** long enough on this Forum, I have played this games 4 times the amount you have and your knowledge of the game is very very limited compared to me and many other players here. There is no way the N7 Slayer is better than the Top 3 I have mentioned Phase Disruptor just does not work very well off-host 90% of the time and without Phase Disruptor N7 Slayer should be ranked even lower. Any other logical reason you present why you think N7 Slayer is better than My Top 3, I will gladly change my mind.

With every post you make you are just looking worse :/

Okay, i gave you a good argument, granades are not infinite since you are basing that in granades, hence biocharge is the common thing between them and it will work in the same way off host.



Besides let's use logic here, let's don't talk about on host or off host because that's like if I say that a volus sentinel is better than a krogan soldier because the sentinel outscored me while I was having high internet latency due to a tropical storm.

If you go on host with Asari Vanguard your granades will run out sooner or later while you still have phase disruptor to spam to the infinite and beyond and while you are at it you can also detonate combos very very fast, Asari Vanguard can't do that because her only non cooldown power is a granade that soon or later will not be there.

I believe you are talking to a brick wall RJ... the guy just doesn't know how to Slayer... so he cannot wrap his head around how infinite PD > limited grenade spam.