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[Impulse and Compulse]

I get kicked from lobbies sometimes for no real reason. If I have a problem, I usually just back out and find a new lobby.

Unfortunately, server issues are making that more difficult...........

[Chealec]

hostaman wrote...

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And as far as leechers go? I've never met one.  It's a BSN myth (at least on PS3) IMHO

I meet plenty of over optimistic players who should be in SIlver, but I've never met anyone who just hides and hopes the rest will carry them....

Since they introduced the 2 minute kick, nor mal leeching tactic is to run into the first mob of enemies you see and try and bleed out as quickly as possible - that way you're just dead for the wave and not getting kicked.

Don't see many of them, but I've run into a few (not really surprising looking at the amount of games I've played).

[Rip The Reaper]

NO. I'll kick someone if I and only I feel its nessecery. If people aren't going to get on their mic and inform me why they are kicking and I don't see a good enough reason... Well I'm not going to do something just because other do it.

[Rip The Reaper]

Chealec wrote...

hostaman wrote...
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And as far as leechers go? I've never met one.  It's a BSN myth (at least on PS3) IMHO

I meet plenty of over optimistic players who should be in SIlver, but I've never met anyone who just hides and hopes the rest will carry them....

Since they introduced the 2 minute kick, nor mal leeching tactic is to run into the first mob of enemies you see and try and bleed out as quickly as possible - that way you're just dead for the wave and not getting kicked.

Don't see many of them, but I've run into a few (not really surprising looking at the amount of games I've played).

well I met someone (Xbox) who slowly strafed back and forth at the LZ so he wouldnt get kicked. He did NOTHING at all. Didn't shoot his gun once. I know he was there the whole time too. Dude had the nerve to even get made when I wanted to kick him WTF. It's a good thing people don't run on OPs logic but I explained to others who joined the lobby. We got that **** outta there

Modifié par Rip The Reaper, 23 mars 2013 - 12:39 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I've kicked maybe twice, ever.

And in my exerience, a low level newb is more likely to surprise you with how good they are, than a high level guy trying to kick them is going to surprise you with what a good team player they are.

In fact, usually the ones trying to do the kicking are very weak for their manifest. There are exceptions. 

[Boog_89]

No equipment? here have a red X.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Oh, but your shoes are nice. 

Did I do that right?

[HolyAvenger]

I don't kick on gold unless obviously AFK.

I'll carry anyone.

[poonts]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I've kicked maybe twice, ever.

And in my exerience, a low level newb is more likely to surprise you with how good they are, than a high level guy trying to kick them is going to surprise you with what a good team player they are.

In fact, usually the ones trying to do the kicking are very weak for their manifest. There are exceptions. 

define "team player." if you mean doing objectives, reviving... that's a team player. If you mean they stick close to everyone else the whole time, then you're not gonna see many good players as "team players." Most more experienced players are able to handle just about any situation/enemy on their own and don't go down very often. They'll also use all of their rockets and drag the team out of revive fests. But other than that you won't see most vets for most of the game.

imo if you need your teammates to stick around the entire match, you are playing above your head (which is fine, with friends). 

Modifié par poonts, 23 mars 2013 - 01:24 .

[cronshaw]

yurksaa wrote...

so I handled that matter the best way I know how; with expletives.

Sometimes people don't kick just to be mean

1+1=3?

and no I will not support your kick
I'll just leave

Modifié par modok8, 23 mars 2013 - 02:19 .

[The-Fantasm]

If it's on anything below Gold, no.

[Star fury]

You can play how you want, and others can kick you when they want. Democracy in action.

[vehzeel]

Kicking is ok, I think. It depends their N7 and challenge rating, gear, weapons and class. Some caster classes are less dependent on weapons, but a human soldier with an Avenger 8 on Gold is an insta-kick for me.

[Kinom001]

I rarely kick. Maybe if there's only three in the lobby and one person just...waits. For a looong(ish) time. But kicking someone because of the ranking or weapons? Nah. If I think I'm seeing someone being kicked for that I'll just leave the lobby and find another game.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

poonts wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I've kicked maybe twice, ever.

And in my experience, a low level newb is more likely to surprise you with how good they are, than a high level guy trying to kick them is going to surprise you with what a good team player they are.

In fact, usually the ones trying to do the kicking are very weak for their manifest. There are exceptions. 

define "team player." if you mean doing objectives, reviving... that's a team player. If you mean they stick close to everyone else the whole time, then you're not gonna see many good players as "team players." Most more experienced players are able to handle just about any situation/enemy on their own and don't go down very often. They'll also use all of their rockets and drag the team out of revive fests. But other than that you won't see most vets for most of the game.

imo if you need your teammates to stick around the entire match, you are playing above your head (which is fine, with friends). 

Gotta be honest, I'm not sure what most of what you said had to do with what you quoted, or what kind of player I am...

I have very little concern in me for how other people play. When I PuG, I work with players who work with me, and work independently of players who choose to go off on their own.

I don't really care about what anyone does, except when it comes to revives, objectives, and making an actual effort to be helpful.

If someone wants to spawn nuke, I don't mind. Game goes faster.

If someone wants to set up defensive positions, I'm good for covering flanks and playing defensively.

I pretty much adapt to whatever I need to do to successfully extract. There are very few playstyles out there I'm unable to complement with my own.

In my experience, that is no easier or harder based on the usual benchmarks people place to measure skill. If anything, I find some of the conventional wisdom wrong (Lone Wolf banner wearing players are typically good team players, in my experience. The vast majority of players I've seen with BotB are actually very good, knowledgable players.)

The one commonality I have seen that I will stand by, is that players who are quick to kick someone for the slightest reason in a PuG (note: I'm not talking about clearing room for friends, which isn't a PuG, and can easily be done without kicking, anyway) are, themselves, typically, weak players. I've seen evidence of this over and over again. They are not good at adapting, and they lack confidence in themselves to carry if they need to.

If they weren't weak players, they'd have the confidence to play with random players. I'm not a great player, but I'm confident enough in my abilities that I don't need to kick other people because I'm worried they won't be good enough. If they turn out not to be, I'll play harder. Most of the time, players play fine, even if they are new. As long as it's not Collectors, I have a 95% or more extraction rate in Gold PuGs.

I don't need to kick. And I have a better chance of extracting with players who have the confidence in themselves that they don't need to kick, either.

[OblivionDawn]

If I don't believe they deserve a kick then they won't get one from me. I don't care what the others in the lobby think.

[CNevarezN]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

poonts wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I've kicked maybe twice, ever.

And in my experience, a low level newb is more likely to surprise you with how good they are, than a high level guy trying to kick them is going to surprise you with what a good team player they are.

In fact, usually the ones trying to do the kicking are very weak for their manifest. There are exceptions. 

define "team player." if you mean doing objectives, reviving... that's a team player. If you mean they stick close to everyone else the whole time, then you're not gonna see many good players as "team players." Most more experienced players are able to handle just about any situation/enemy on their own and don't go down very often. They'll also use all of their rockets and drag the team out of revive fests. But other than that you won't see most vets for most of the game.

imo if you need your teammates to stick around the entire match, you are playing above your head (which is fine, with friends). 

Gotta be honest, I'm not sure what most of what you said had to do with what you quoted, or what kind of player I am...

I have very little concern in me for how other people play. When I PuG, I work with players who work with me, and work independently of players who choose to go off on their own.

I don't really care about what anyone does, except when it comes to revives, objectives, and making an actual effort to be helpful.

If someone wants to spawn nuke, I don't mind. Game goes faster.

If someone wants to set up defensive positions, I'm good for covering flanks and playing defensively.

I pretty much adapt to whatever I need to do to successfully extract. There are very few playstyles out there I'm unable to complement with my own.

In my experience, that is no easier or harder based on the usual benchmarks people place to measure skill. If anything, I find some of the conventional wisdom wrong (Lone Wolf banner wearing players are typically good team players, in my experience. The vast majority of players I've seen with BotB are actually very good, knowledgable players.)

The one commonality I have seen that I will stand by, is that players who are quick to kick someone for the slightest reason in a PuG (note: I'm not talking about clearing room for friends, which isn't a PuG, and can easily be done without kicking, anyway) are, themselves, typically, weak players. I've seen evidence of this over and over again. They are not good at adapting, and they lack confidence in themselves to carry if they need to.

If they weren't weak players, they'd have the confidence to play with random players. I'm not a great player, but I'm confident enough in my abilities that I don't need to kick other people because I'm worried they won't be good enough. If they turn out not to be, I'll play harder. Most of the time, players play fine, even if they are new. As long as it's not Collectors, I have a 95% or more extraction rate in Gold PuGs.

I don't need to kick. And I have a better chance of extracting with players who have the confidence in themselves that they don't need to kick, either.

Damn good point, Jere.

[FeralJester616]

In general, people only get kicked from my lobbies when I need the space for a friend.

Or they refused to play as part of the team.

Or they've readied up without equipping stuffs. I find those that do are more ready to use rockets/gels when needed.
But I'm normally running with aleast 2 other friends so this is hardly an issue.

Also leechers, they get kicked as soon as we get back to the lobby. If I happen to be puggin and we get a leecher, and then the group won't kick? Well then I just set to bronze. Leechers tend to leave at that point and I get to set it back after.

[iOnlySignIn]

Am I the only one who randomly kicks PUGs for the lolz? o__O

Also, if Player A is being kicked in the lobby, I like to kick Player B or Player C instead, to make it look like Player A is kicking Player B or C back. Using this method I have more than once succeeded in getting 2 PUGs who are kicking each other both kicked from the game. Good times.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 23 mars 2013 - 09:53 .

[DrunkenReflex]

Kicking for bad behavior is necessary sometimes. Kicking because a PUG is new? It's better to give people a chance.

Yesterday I joined a lobby with a (N7 ranking) 500 and two sub-100s. We got full extraction on platinum. Plus everyone earned a lot of revive medals. :-)

[stormrider1012]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Am I the only one who randomly kicks PUGs for the lolz? o__O

Also, if Player A is being kicked in the lobby, I like to kick Player B or Player C instead, to make it look like Player A is kicking Player B or C back. Using this method I have more than once succeeded in getting 2 PUGs who are kicking each other both kicked from the game. Good times.

You are an evil man..

Brilliant.. but evil..

[poonts]

DrunkenReflex wrote...

Kicking for bad behavior is necessary sometimes. Kicking because a PUG is new? It's better to give people a chance.

Yesterday I joined a lobby with a (N7 ranking) 500 and two sub-100s. We got full extraction on platinum. Plus everyone earned a lot of revive medals. :-)

im sure this is what happens most of the time...

also, rio?

[poonts]

@CNevarezN

preach it brother! ever since you were stroked on some previous topic, you are surely a beacon for this depraved bsn community.

this is obviously black and white right? never kick, all pugs just need a little help to achieve greatness. and they all want help. and they're all willing to listen. all you have to do is encourage them. give them the confidence they need to succeed!

keep riding your high horse my friend.

[DrunkenReflex]

poonts wrote...

DrunkenReflex wrote...

Kicking for bad behavior is necessary sometimes. Kicking because a PUG is new? It's better to give people a chance.

Yesterday I joined a lobby with a (N7 ranking) 500 and two sub-100s. We got full extraction on platinum. Plus everyone earned a lot of revive medals. :-)

im sure this is what happens most of the time...

also, rio?

Giant, reapers -- not 'easy mode.'

[RGB]

I only kick on Platinum. If I wanted to solo Plat I would have done it already. No time for scrubs in credit-**** mode.