I have many Shepards and they don't all make the same choice because I like to play out the RPG aspect of his personality as I'm going.
Justify your decision.
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#27
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:40
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Valentia X wrote...
Control.
Destroy is everything my Shepard fought against. She's been pro-EDI since they first met, called out Tali on the original attempted genocide of the Geth and called out the Admirals on their second go around, and believed in galactic unity in her own grumpy way.
And this is why I also chose Control. "The woman who gave up her life to protect the many."
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#28
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:43
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Synthesis.
Refusal is simple cowardice. I didn't go through all this trouble, affect everyone in the Galaxy all the time, to claim at the end I can't make decisions that affect everyone.
The game very heavily hints that inevitable organic/synthetic constant conflict is an accurate portrayal of the universe. Vendetta tells you as much, the Geth/Quarian conflict reinforces it, and the constant AI/NI troubles further cement it. Everything I see tells me Starkid isn't making that up.
Destroy thus goes right out the window. It stops the immediate "We're all going to die" problem, with "We" being spacefaring races - but at the cost of removing the solution to the other "We're all going to die" problem where we is all organic life.
Control seems better at first, since now I've got the Reapers to keep peace. But given the way things work, I'm pretty sure that means GodShepard is going to end up having to pull a "Well, you're all going to die" sooner or later for the same reason Starkid did.
Which leaves me with Synthesis, which actually solves the problem.
So,yeah. Green glow for everybody.
Refusal is simple cowardice. I didn't go through all this trouble, affect everyone in the Galaxy all the time, to claim at the end I can't make decisions that affect everyone.
The game very heavily hints that inevitable organic/synthetic constant conflict is an accurate portrayal of the universe. Vendetta tells you as much, the Geth/Quarian conflict reinforces it, and the constant AI/NI troubles further cement it. Everything I see tells me Starkid isn't making that up.
Destroy thus goes right out the window. It stops the immediate "We're all going to die" problem, with "We" being spacefaring races - but at the cost of removing the solution to the other "We're all going to die" problem where we is all organic life.
Control seems better at first, since now I've got the Reapers to keep peace. But given the way things work, I'm pretty sure that means GodShepard is going to end up having to pull a "Well, you're all going to die" sooner or later for the same reason Starkid did.
Which leaves me with Synthesis, which actually solves the problem.
So,yeah. Green glow for everybody.
#29
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:51
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Exile Isan wrote...
Valentia X wrote...
Control.
Destroy is everything my Shepard fought against. She's been pro-EDI since they first met, called out Tali on the original attempted genocide of the Geth and called out the Admirals on their second go around, and believed in galactic unity in her own grumpy way.
And this is why I also why I chose Control. "The woman who gave up her life to protect the many."
This.
I chose control on my first play through and again this time with my first EC playthrough and still maintain it is the only best option for my Shep to take.
( not that I am a fan of the endings, however given the choices control is mine. Synthesis just totally does not sit right at all. My Shepard would not kill the Geth and Edi when another option was available. )
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#30
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:53
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I actually destroyed the geth. I chose Control because I don't believe organics will necessarily resist creating more AI that would eventually rebel.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:54
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I choose to eject the disc before being offered the choice.
Destroy is self-contradictory. Killing both synthetics and the Reapers makes no sense as a refusal of the Catalyst's assertions. Throwing in the death of all synthetics is nothing but cheap manipulation to stear me towards other options, it has no deeper meaning, and renders previous decisions utterly pointless. It tries to tell me that anyone who's different has to die.
Control gives absolute power to a single, flawed human, who has no one to answer to. The game repeatedly enforces that forcing control is bad, and the only advocator of it was only telling me it was a good idea whilst indoctrinated, even whilst he was attempting to force control on me. It tries to tell me that no one can be trusted, so they must be ruled and directed by someone better than them.
Synthesis is just nonsense. Almost nothing makes sense, there's no foundation for any of its aspects or its potential, no direction. The intention of solving the Catalyst's problem is false, it does not solve this problem if indeed it is true, and this only reinforces how amazingly silly it is. It tries to tell me that differences can never be overcome, so everyone has to be forcibly changed.
Refuse is defeat. The galaxy is slaughtered, the cycle is continued, the universe I wanted to save is now gone and the enemy cannot be defeated without submission. It tires to tell me that without intervention from a higher power, no one deserves to live, and nothing I did mattered in the end.
The whole 'synthetics and organics' thing Kid Hitler yaps on about is complete nonsense. I refuse to believe that's the reason all this is happening, and I refuse to believe almost a quarter of the main story, two whole species and civilizations, two very important characters, and I don't know how much dialogue or how many choices, are all completely and utterly meanigless, based on the words of something so obviously flawed in its conception, on the words of the enemy, that has killed and tortured billions without mercy over countless life cycles of this galaxy.
They're all equally stupid and I'd rather none of them ever come to pass.
Destroy is self-contradictory. Killing both synthetics and the Reapers makes no sense as a refusal of the Catalyst's assertions. Throwing in the death of all synthetics is nothing but cheap manipulation to stear me towards other options, it has no deeper meaning, and renders previous decisions utterly pointless. It tries to tell me that anyone who's different has to die.
Control gives absolute power to a single, flawed human, who has no one to answer to. The game repeatedly enforces that forcing control is bad, and the only advocator of it was only telling me it was a good idea whilst indoctrinated, even whilst he was attempting to force control on me. It tries to tell me that no one can be trusted, so they must be ruled and directed by someone better than them.
Synthesis is just nonsense. Almost nothing makes sense, there's no foundation for any of its aspects or its potential, no direction. The intention of solving the Catalyst's problem is false, it does not solve this problem if indeed it is true, and this only reinforces how amazingly silly it is. It tries to tell me that differences can never be overcome, so everyone has to be forcibly changed.
Refuse is defeat. The galaxy is slaughtered, the cycle is continued, the universe I wanted to save is now gone and the enemy cannot be defeated without submission. It tires to tell me that without intervention from a higher power, no one deserves to live, and nothing I did mattered in the end.
The whole 'synthetics and organics' thing Kid Hitler yaps on about is complete nonsense. I refuse to believe that's the reason all this is happening, and I refuse to believe almost a quarter of the main story, two whole species and civilizations, two very important characters, and I don't know how much dialogue or how many choices, are all completely and utterly meanigless, based on the words of something so obviously flawed in its conception, on the words of the enemy, that has killed and tortured billions without mercy over countless life cycles of this galaxy.
They're all equally stupid and I'd rather none of them ever come to pass.
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#32
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:56
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#33
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 02:58
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None of them because they are all awful.
#34
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:00
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Destroy. Syntesis is just plain stupid in my opinion. Refuse everyones dies dont like losing lol. Control is the worst of the lot. controling the reaper who where once a race. i could never justify that.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:04
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Pre-EC: Control
Then I could headcanon that the Reapers return to dark space and leave the galaxy alone, unless something worse ever threatened galactic peace.
Post-EC: Destroy
Only viable option for me, Control = ShepardAI becomes Master of the Universe; Synthesis = playing God, too big of a change that neither Shepard nor the Catalyst have any right to make a decision on. Destroy = Reapers are well and truly gone, I feel bad about sacrificing EDI and the Geth; but that's the price for using ReaperTech.
Then I could headcanon that the Reapers return to dark space and leave the galaxy alone, unless something worse ever threatened galactic peace.
Post-EC: Destroy
Only viable option for me, Control = ShepardAI becomes Master of the Universe; Synthesis = playing God, too big of a change that neither Shepard nor the Catalyst have any right to make a decision on. Destroy = Reapers are well and truly gone, I feel bad about sacrificing EDI and the Geth; but that's the price for using ReaperTech.
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#36
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:13
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Refuse. Shepard refused to accept a compromise with the person controlling the cycle of genocide- she told him to take his opinions and shove it up his ass. She wouldn't accept his lies and he can fcuk off. Kick the Reapers asses on their own terms in the next cycle, not on the terms of the Reaper God itself.
And when I'm in a cranky mood, I also pick Refuse because this current cycle has proven time and again they are mostly a bunch of fcuking retards and thus maybe we do need this Harvesting lol
And when I'm in a cranky mood, I also pick Refuse because this current cycle has proven time and again they are mostly a bunch of fcuking retards and thus maybe we do need this Harvesting lol
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:27
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Destroy, because of all the endings, its the one way to ensure the Reaper threat ends, forever. And to do this I have to sacrifice EDI, and the Geth. Which is hard, because I worked so hard to save the geth, to make peace between then and the quarians; and now have to throw all that a way. But in the end, it is the only ending to be sure, the only ending that ensures the galaxy is free of the Reaper's influence, one and for all.
For too long the Reapers had controlled the fates of the the galaxy, and as Shepard said during Lair of the Shadowbroker, he has been fighting to give everyone that chance. Not a garenteed peace, not a promise that things won't turn out badly in the long run, just a chance. Maybe Starbrat is right, maybe we will end up just destroying ourselves in conflict with synthetics, maybe long lasting peace is impossible. But no matter how likely that outcome is, no matter how small a possibility of success, it is not garenteed. My Shepard (and myself) does not believe in 100%, and more importantly believes the galaxy deserved a chance, no matter how small, to make things better, to break the cycle that was deemed inevitable.
Also, Shepard lives and gets to spent the rest of his life with Tali, which while its not the main reason I pick the ending, is defiantly a really really really nice bonus. Because, come on, after all he went through I think Shepard should get a bit of a happy ending. The guy really deserves it.
For too long the Reapers had controlled the fates of the the galaxy, and as Shepard said during Lair of the Shadowbroker, he has been fighting to give everyone that chance. Not a garenteed peace, not a promise that things won't turn out badly in the long run, just a chance. Maybe Starbrat is right, maybe we will end up just destroying ourselves in conflict with synthetics, maybe long lasting peace is impossible. But no matter how likely that outcome is, no matter how small a possibility of success, it is not garenteed. My Shepard (and myself) does not believe in 100%, and more importantly believes the galaxy deserved a chance, no matter how small, to make things better, to break the cycle that was deemed inevitable.
Also, Shepard lives and gets to spent the rest of his life with Tali, which while its not the main reason I pick the ending, is defiantly a really really really nice bonus. Because, come on, after all he went through I think Shepard should get a bit of a happy ending. The guy really deserves it.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:33
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Control Pre and Post Ending. Why?
“It has often been said that power corrupts. But it is perhaps equally important to realize that weakness, too, corrupts. Power corrupts the few, while weakness corrupts the many."
— Eric Hoffer
I will not let the mistakes of the past repeat themselves and become my own. If history shall judge my Shepard to be a monster, then so be it. You may judge my methods and ideals, but you may not judge my dedication toward protecting the galaxy.
“It has often been said that power corrupts. But it is perhaps equally important to realize that weakness, too, corrupts. Power corrupts the few, while weakness corrupts the many."
— Eric Hoffer
I will not let the mistakes of the past repeat themselves and become my own. If history shall judge my Shepard to be a monster, then so be it. You may judge my methods and ideals, but you may not judge my dedication toward protecting the galaxy.
#39
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:34
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No.
I ain't gotsta justify myselfs to nobody.
I ain't gotsta justify myselfs to nobody.
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#40
Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:35
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Synthesis.
I justify it the same way Garrus justifies the turians NOT bombing the krogan to extinction whilst talking to Javik.
"And we all lived another day. Good talk."
I justify it the same way Garrus justifies the turians NOT bombing the krogan to extinction whilst talking to Javik.
"And we all lived another day. Good talk."
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 03:37
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"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 04:08
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Pre-EC: Destroy, Catalyst was too vague and he claims this one wouldn't work and praise the other two more. Destroy have support from you allies, while control and synthesis were pure nonsense and only advocated by those who are always indoctrinated. Also Synthesis and Control guarantees Shepard demise. While Destroy does not.
Post-EC: Refuse. The only logical response to the catalyst. You're are not given enough information to make a rational decision from the catalyst evidence. Even if he had any evidence, his reveal as the Reaper Overlord any credibility he has is thrown out the window. Especially a Reaper Overlord that is in a form of a child you saw killed and was tormented by in Shepard dreams. His attempts to expand his explanations for these choices are insipid. The more he talks the more he shows Mac Walters should have never been the Lead Writer. This is obviously what the player wants when he or she play through three games being a badass defying all odds and then at the last moment you can't win without the Reapers letting you. To twist the knife you have to pick your choice of 2 surrender agreements or an ultimatum with a lame arbitrary penalty tack on. Now Destroy is still on the table. It's only problem It still turns Shepard into a monster and it requires trust in the catalyst still. If you still think he is crapping over Destroy like in Pre-EC, I won't begrudge Shepard for picking it since it's the writer fault for being a garbage writer. But to me personally because the A.I. sole reason for the harvest is this:
I rather ignore him immediately after that and look for that fourth option for those who paid over 180 dollars at least to be a big damn heroes like they deserve.
What's irks me the most you can't even debate with this damn thing. Shepard has experiences and evidence that contradict the Catalyst claims.
Post-EC: Refuse. The only logical response to the catalyst. You're are not given enough information to make a rational decision from the catalyst evidence. Even if he had any evidence, his reveal as the Reaper Overlord any credibility he has is thrown out the window. Especially a Reaper Overlord that is in a form of a child you saw killed and was tormented by in Shepard dreams. His attempts to expand his explanations for these choices are insipid. The more he talks the more he shows Mac Walters should have never been the Lead Writer. This is obviously what the player wants when he or she play through three games being a badass defying all odds and then at the last moment you can't win without the Reapers letting you. To twist the knife you have to pick your choice of 2 surrender agreements or an ultimatum with a lame arbitrary penalty tack on. Now Destroy is still on the table. It's only problem It still turns Shepard into a monster and it requires trust in the catalyst still. If you still think he is crapping over Destroy like in Pre-EC, I won't begrudge Shepard for picking it since it's the writer fault for being a garbage writer. But to me personally because the A.I. sole reason for the harvest is this:
I rather ignore him immediately after that and look for that fourth option for those who paid over 180 dollars at least to be a big damn heroes like they deserve.
What's irks me the most you can't even debate with this damn thing. Shepard has experiences and evidence that contradict the Catalyst claims.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 04:16
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Pre-EC: Destroy
Post-EC: Destroy
Destroy is the whole purpose that Shepard has been fighting towards throughout all 3 games. Why just divert at the last moment because a little kid says so? Or more to the point...why listen to the leader AI of the Reapers that can pull images from your mind?
Post-EC: Destroy
Destroy is the whole purpose that Shepard has been fighting towards throughout all 3 games. Why just divert at the last moment because a little kid says so? Or more to the point...why listen to the leader AI of the Reapers that can pull images from your mind?
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 04:20
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Can it wait a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 04:27
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Control. Mankind will need firepower after the Reapers trashed our population. The Krogan breed quick and will soon make a attempt to take over the galaxy. The Geth used us to solve their old machine problem. Now they will try to wipe us out again.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 04:41
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Destroy. It's what I came to do, and I did it.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 05:03
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I Destroyed pre-EC. I Destroyed post EC. Destroy completed my mission, the others did not. The decision came way above my pay grade. I haven't finished my full play on the PC but will be completing with MEHEM, not because I care so much about the Geth, but because I wanted to see Liara again.
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 05:09
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Pre Extended Cut, Control. Because I was grumpy, and pointlessly confused. Still did it another play through because I like the puppy lamps (even if it means the abomination of EDI living), and I don't like the idea of raping the galaxy via space magic.
Post Extended, I chose Control again, but a play through afterwards (and after choosing Miranda over Tali), I chose Destroy because f*** the Geth, and EDI. Plus, it's Miranda. "We'll bang, okay".
Post Extended, I chose Control again, but a play through afterwards (and after choosing Miranda over Tali), I chose Destroy because f*** the Geth, and EDI. Plus, it's Miranda. "We'll bang, okay".
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Posté 23 mars 2013 - 05:10
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I literally just finished ME3 30 minutes ago. I decided to play through it. It is a brilliant game, and I love the DLC. When it comes to the end, all I can say is that I chose blue. The end is one of three colors, but My favorite is refusal. I shoot the starboy, and just let my imagination go to work from there. It better than the colors.
